Dexter111 said:
Timbydude said:
PC gaming isn't going to decline much further, but I can't see it getting much better either. The PC crowd is more or less doomed to live off of mediocre console ports and countless Valve/Blizzard games until something drastic changes.
There are a lot more games out there on the PC, which are great and don't come from "Valve/Blizzard" (Drakensang, King's Bounty,
World of Goo (also on WiiWare; not exclusive, and pirated to hell and back on the PC), Plants vs. Zombies, Torchlight, Machinarium etc. spring to mind)
Also: http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2010/
(Snip about Natural Selection II)
I admit that King's Bounty is one indie game I completely forgot about when I said that none of them had impressed me in the last few years. It really is a great game.
But look at the rest of those games. The PC used to be known for deep, in-depth, complex experiences, which Torchlight, Plants vs. Zombies, and Drakensang (I share a different opinion than most on that game) are not. Machinarium I haven't played so I can't comment on it. Torchlight is literally just a Diablo clone from the people who worked on Diablo, Plants vs. Zombies is a casual tower defense game, and Drakensang is just...not fun. Again, a lot of people will disagree with me on that last one.
Your link to the "reasons why its worth to be a pcgamer" only furthers my point. Look under the Role-Playing heading.
There's almost nothing worthwhile there. It almost solely consists of indie games and low-profile releases, with the exception of WoW Cataclysm. I know I'll be chastised for saying this, but I've learned that in general, indie/low-profile = amateur.
Like I said, the indie scene will survive on PC because that's one of the few markets in which it's viable. Of course, Live Arcade, PSN, and WiiWare are slowly changing that, but that's another story. My point is that the PC used to be the focus for huge blockbuster efforts, and now it's only a home for indie games and console ports.
Also, while I give Natural Selection II credit for surviving on preorders, that really doesn't further a point. If anything, it shows that PC gamers are so hungry for anything PC-exclusive anymore that they'll throw money at it in the hopes that it will stay.
AC10 said:
Timbydude said:
PC gaming isn't going to decline much further, but I can't see it getting much better either. The PC crowd is more or less doomed to live off of mediocre console ports and countless Valve/Blizzard games until something drastic changes.
I'm hoping that since all 3 consoles are now massively trying to push motion controls and 3D tech, consumers and gamers will get fed up of no "hardcore" titles and just jump to the PC for a pure gaming experience. Wishful thinking I'll admit, but that small tangent of hope keeps me going!
Heh, that was included in the "something drastic" I mentioned. I think that the only situation in which the PC will be fully revived is if "console" and "casual" become synonymous; then, the two crowds will happily be separated.
But both of you, please keep in mind: I love PC gaming. I do own all three consoles, but that's because I got fed up of waiting for high-profile PC games that never came. While I enjoy playing original games on my PC more than anything else, I finally realized that the most big games nowadays are made for consoles. I enjoy most individual games on my PC more, but I've had more overall fun on my 360 and PS3 in the last few years.