All irony aside, I'm glad they posted this. I hate these huge flashy ads telling me how "cool" kinectimals is.
Gamers Find Way to Block Ads From New Xbox Dashboard
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Well, lets see.karloss01 said:
On your "home" page, you have one huge ad for something, two small ads for something, a Quickplay feature and the "Play game" button really small in the top right corner.
So, to make it simple, yes, it is very in your face, or at least it is IMO.
On a related subject, why the fuck should we watch commercials in movie theaters? We're already paying for the movie, the soda and the popcorn.
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You made me laugh good sir, good job.hazabaza1 said:
Microsoft, the whore of the gaming industry. You know its true.
Actually, no. The escapist is delivering hundereds hours of entertainment and information for free. Wihout ads, this place, IN THEORY wouldn't exist for you to post what you just did. However, Xbox Live is a pay service, and their advertising, while your paying for them. If you pay for the Escapist, no ads, since your paying. While on Xbox your paying for the console itself and the online support.Amnestic said:
I don't really comment very much here, but i do notice something that makes me fear for the internet community at large.
So i get that sites like this and various other services get their revenue from ads, that's a super cool revenue strategy, and that some services (XBL, Cable TV, etc) use the ads to subsidize the subscription revenue to lower prices on customers. AND honestly i find a lot of interesting things that i wouldn't have otherwise happily purchased without said advertisements.
However, there is a tendency for advertisers, and the media developers they transmit through, to be entirely too aggressive. bigger, louder, more obtrusive advertisements ruin the experience these services provide. Additionally they trigger the internal filters within the viewer that cause us to ignore them. This is the classic junk mail trap that only serves to annoy the subscription base and cause consumers to go elsewhere.
I think its worth the argument that as a consumer of internet media, my equipment is being used to carry these services, and i have a right as the owner of this equipment to modify my router, computer, and software to only deliver the content that i want to experience. I WANT ADVERTISEMENTS, IF CARRIED UNOBTRUSIVELY (something the escapist does pretty well with banner and wrapper ads) but don't ask me to sit through pop-ups, or 30 second videos every 2 minuets (especially the same ones over and over). I will exercise my RIGHT to block those.
Instead of banning the people who talk about it, if XBL just practiced unobtrusive advertising techniques. Don't make them annoying and ill see their ads, problem solved.
cheers,
So i get that sites like this and various other services get their revenue from ads, that's a super cool revenue strategy, and that some services (XBL, Cable TV, etc) use the ads to subsidize the subscription revenue to lower prices on customers. AND honestly i find a lot of interesting things that i wouldn't have otherwise happily purchased without said advertisements.
However, there is a tendency for advertisers, and the media developers they transmit through, to be entirely too aggressive. bigger, louder, more obtrusive advertisements ruin the experience these services provide. Additionally they trigger the internal filters within the viewer that cause us to ignore them. This is the classic junk mail trap that only serves to annoy the subscription base and cause consumers to go elsewhere.
I think its worth the argument that as a consumer of internet media, my equipment is being used to carry these services, and i have a right as the owner of this equipment to modify my router, computer, and software to only deliver the content that i want to experience. I WANT ADVERTISEMENTS, IF CARRIED UNOBTRUSIVELY (something the escapist does pretty well with banner and wrapper ads) but don't ask me to sit through pop-ups, or 30 second videos every 2 minuets (especially the same ones over and over). I will exercise my RIGHT to block those.
Instead of banning the people who talk about it, if XBL just practiced unobtrusive advertising techniques. Don't make them annoying and ill see their ads, problem solved.
cheers,
I know you have already changed but to be honest I am quite surprised at someone being here as long as you not knowing that something like this needs to be specified as a joke on the Escapist.hazabaza1 said:
Like i've implied I know microsoft would be more than fine but they will make up that revenue difference somehow. Big companies don't make moves like getting rid of advertise to appease users, if users aren't happy let them leave, not enough would leave to fucking worry about it.Crono1973 said:
Thats why I said other people, but anyways are there any services you pay for that you'd like premiums to drop a couple bucks? All you would have to do is look at some ads, seems like a smart move to use ads in conjunction with a pay service. At least it's not coming out of my pocket, you understand why ads aren't bad?
Honestly, Live Gold is something that I usually won't do because that's an extra 60 bucks that could go elsewhere, and I rarely ever use it. However, recently they had a special that removed 20 bucks from it, making it $40 instead. I thought, "wow, that's pretty good, and I just happen to have enough laying around. It's a spur of the moment impulse, but why not?"dmase said:
I'll say that I have not really noticed any real improvement in my service since upgrading to Gold (nor did I that one month I tried it for $3 last year). The fact that, had I paid full price, and these clunky and obnoxious ads are still the first thing I see when I load up the console.. yeah, I probably wouldn't have bothered.
The fact is, I've paid for the damned system with money I didn't really have to spend last year, but I really wanted an Xbox 360 after playing my cousin's a lot. It was a lot better than the original Xbox which I felt was a useless coffee-table. Now, I've thrown more money at the thing so I could have the "luxury" of going Gold. I am not ad-free, it does not ramp up the experience, I have not "enjoyed" my games any more or less... there was no point.
To your question, would I pay $6 a year for no ads? If that was ALL I had to pay, then sure. If it was tacked onto the price of Gold? I'd be one of the first in line to disable ads.
However, despite my hatred of the ads, I am not going to use this technique to block the ads. Why? Because I know Microsoft, and I am anticipating their retaliation. If it never comes, that's great, but I don't wanna log in one day and find my account gone (especially since I only went Gold like 2 weeks ago).
But on the whole, I think the overabundance of ads on Xbox Live is quite unnecessary. I do not believe for a moment that Microsoft is in anyway hurting for money. I've read the reports and articles and the news, and I know that Microsft, and quite a few other companies out there, are not in the slightest way hurting for money. There's plenty of big corporations that have not been hurt at all by the economy, just the rest of us shmucks who found ourselves catacorized as "working poor".
Hey, if you got lots of cash to throw around, be my guest. Those who don't ever, once, click ads.. this is just an invasion of our privacy and a waste of our time. Like the junk mail I get that goes RIGHT into the recycle bin, cause I couldn't care less.
Now look, I think I have been clear. I won't pay to look at ads. If I think the subscription fee is reasonable, I will pay it but I won't look at ads. If you raise the subscription fee beyond what I think is reasonable I will cancel. I will NOT look at ads from a service I pay for!dmase said:
Well the escapist needs to upkeep it's image, because you know... it's free.
As Mike said adverts are subsidies, to make content free.
As Mike said adverts are subsidies, to make content free.
Precisely what I thought, I think this is freaking hilarious, the actual event and the Escapist reporting it like this.Bobic said:
Cloud saves is sexy. That's one of my favorite things on Steam. Anything without cloud saves on steam I end up cloud saving with Windows Live Sync.Sober Thal said:They did drop the ball on filtering the indie games by genre, but that could be an easy fix in another update. They are now offering a lot more services, mostly video (hence the ads for movies) and other services like: Cloud Saves/Profiles. No more jump drives needed when going to a friends house, that is really cool. Bing search engine with voice, then soon to come: News Shows, EPIX movies (whatever the hell that is), You Tube, TMZ, HBO Go... this update paves the way for some neat stuff.theultimateend said:I still think they shouldn't have had them show till people renewed their subscriptions and agreed to a TOS update. But that does seem fairly harmless.Sober Thal said:
Although recently Dirt 3 kept telling me there was DLC maps for sale and I found that a bit jarring and upsetting. But as long as the ads on Live aren't talking to you I probably wouldn't care.
Did these ads come with better services? Usually folks are more resistant when a company tries to get more money without providing increased quality of service. (I'm genuinely ignorant, I can't justify paying the money since the only games I liked were Viva Pinata 1 and 2...I wish there was a Viva Pinata 3).
EDIT: Oh yeah, and it has more interaction with that Facebook/Twitter crap... meh.
So yeah if they are offering more stuff and threw on ads, I wouldn't be upset. Personally I prefer spending more to get a service without ads (if someone ever makes zune marketplace for television I will devour it wholesale) but I'm probably a minority since free is the new pay I guess.
I don't want to get banned so I won't say the name but there is a service for watching films that automatically updates you on new shows and can even download them for you to a watching queue. I would happily drop 10-20 (preferably no higher than 15 to match old zune prices) to have this service. But I don't think all the different networks would ever agree to share the pie
.I only mention it because its basically live sync for films, then you have live sync for games from steam (or close with consoles), and then music with zune. Hopefully in the next couple years this sort of universally connected system will be commonplace so that I can enjoy a service on all my hardware with 1 low price (or I suppose ads, but because of how few ads they tend to show I'd prefer pay).
But that's a super big digression, thanks for the information.
This makes me super sad. Because now I watch ads and they STILL don't have an employee sit in on films to warn and remove people who talk or use their phonesesperandote said:
.I'd be happy as hell to watch a commercial if it net me any sort of improved service, but now I pay more, watch ads, and still have people talk the whole time and get upset when I ask them (nicely) to be silent.
Which is probably why I won't watch movies unless its a drive-in anymore :/.
Perhaps the product is partially paid for by subscriptions and partially paid for by ad revenue? Given that I believe people have been banned on The Escapist for mentioning that AdBlock Plus can eliminate advertisements, I don't think The Escapist should be publishing articles on how to circumvent other companies' ads.Mike Kayatta said:
Just food for thought.