Gamers Upset at Blizzcon's Slur-Ridden Speech

[bird of hermes]

So what I'm getting from this thread is that nobody's gone on a rant like that for the hell of it? I think it's pretty obvious Corpsegrinder's joking around. This video isn't even new; it's been around for quite some time.

It's also depressing how Thyunda is making sweeping generalizations of an entire genre of music just because it doesn't suit his tastes. Death metal isn't all about controversy, dude, I would know because I listen to tons of it.

Then why is it DEATH metal and not some other, acceptable kind of metal?

Well, there's no one single reason. There was an early Possessed album called Death Metal, as well as a fanzine (fan magazine). Another explanation is that it was named after the band Death, "Death's metal."

Also it's pretty insulting how you generalize all death metal fans. I, for one, am neither fat nor greasy. Like Smash said, it makes you look ignorant and honestly kinda nasty. Cool it with the undeserved hate, eh?

I could go on, but Smash seems to have covered everything.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

So glad I quit this fucking game. And don't live in the States for that matter.

 

[brainslurper]

Oh poor alliance acting like the victim again...

 

[standokan]

"..Dwarves are cool.." That's were I stopped caring.

 

[Thyunda]

So what I'm getting from this thread is that nobody's gone on a rant like that for the hell of it? I think it's pretty obvious Corpsegrinder's joking around. This video isn't even new; it's been around for quite some time.

It's also depressing how Thyunda is making sweeping generalizations of an entire genre of music just because it doesn't suit his tastes. Death metal isn't all about controversy, dude, I would know because I listen to tons of it.

Then why is it DEATH metal and not some other, acceptable kind of metal?

Well, there's no one single reason. There was an early Possessed album called Death Metal, as well as a fanzine (fan magazine). Another explanation is that it was named after the band Death, "Death's metal."

Also it's pretty insulting how you generalize all death metal fans. I, for one, am neither fat nor greasy. Like Smash said, it makes you look ignorant and honestly kinda nasty. Cool it with the undeserved hate, eh?

I could go on, but Smash seems to have covered everything.

Then you fit into the minority of death metal fans. Unless you're American. Then you'll notice I said 'Fat, greasy OR American'. Though often all three. And, I also said 'most', so how about you take your easily-offended ass off the Internet before some other guy makes a sweeping generalisation that not only do you try incredibly hard to be included in, you also insist you're not?

 

[bird of hermes]

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dude, all I'm saying is that you're being unnecessarily hostile on a usually civil forum.

 

[joe-h2o]

There are so many "why is this surprising, the guy is the lead singer in a death metal band" but I think the overriding reaction to this is the perceived endorsement by Blizzard that the video and the sentiment expressed was ok, despite something like that coming from anyone else being a major breach of the TOS on their own forums etc.

Colour me unsurprised that the guy is an immature douche, I just expected someone to be half awake at the Blizzard PR steering wheel to avoid them ploughing headlong into a tree.

 

[Xerxesrogue]

Well, that's okay, because nobody has ever, or will ever care what death metal 'musicians' have to say. These are people that have no concept of art, and only of controversy, so I'm really not surprised that they think they're all unique and special for talking shit like this.

I really like the part where you voiced your opinion as fact, and did so on everybody's behalf.

OT: Corpsegrinder.

Well, really, how many people actually take death metal lyrics seriously?

Well, really, how many death metal fans are paying attention to the lyrics? That is one of the differences the genre has to most other music. It's vocals is just an effect over the instrument's structure. Not a 4/4, single scale, verse-chorus, background rhythm, supporting a vocal front figure.

 

[Thyunda]

Well, that's okay, because nobody has ever, or will ever care what death metal 'musicians' have to say. These are people that have no concept of art, and only of controversy, so I'm really not surprised that they think they're all unique and special for talking shit like this.

I really like the part where you voiced your opinion as fact, and did so on everybody's behalf.

OT: Corpsegrinder.

Well, really, how many people actually take death metal lyrics seriously?

Well, really, how many death metal fans are paying attention to the lyrics? That is one of the differences the genre has to most other music. It's vocals is just an effect over the instrument's structure. Not a 4/4, single scale, verse-chorus, background rhythm, supporting a vocal front figure.

Then why bother with the vocals? They sound horrendous and actively detract from any sort of structure the rest of the instruments might have constructed.

 

[Xerxesrogue]

Well, that's okay, because nobody has ever, or will ever care what death metal 'musicians' have to say. These are people that have no concept of art, and only of controversy, so I'm really not surprised that they think they're all unique and special for talking shit like this.

I really like the part where you voiced your opinion as fact, and did so on everybody's behalf.

OT: Corpsegrinder.

Well, really, how many people actually take death metal lyrics seriously?

Well, really, how many death metal fans are paying attention to the lyrics? That is one of the differences the genre has to most other music. It's vocals is just an effect over the instrument's structure. Not a 4/4, single scale, verse-chorus, background rhythm, supporting a vocal front figure.

Then why bother with the vocals? They sound horrendous and actively detract from any sort of structure the rest of the instruments might have constructed.

Like I said, it creates an effect over the instruments. It serves more as a rythm element, than tones. I understand why you don't like them. It's an extreme music form, and few can even stand it, I just want you to try an understand why the sound image is constructed the way it is, and see what people can like about it. I respect your personal taste, but if you will just have a look at the structure behind it, the style is far beyond the average form of composership in the music industy, as it stands today.

 

[Thyunda]

Well, that's okay, because nobody has ever, or will ever care what death metal 'musicians' have to say. These are people that have no concept of art, and only of controversy, so I'm really not surprised that they think they're all unique and special for talking shit like this.

I really like the part where you voiced your opinion as fact, and did so on everybody's behalf.

OT: Corpsegrinder.

Well, really, how many people actually take death metal lyrics seriously?

Well, really, how many death metal fans are paying attention to the lyrics? That is one of the differences the genre has to most other music. It's vocals is just an effect over the instrument's structure. Not a 4/4, single scale, verse-chorus, background rhythm, supporting a vocal front figure.

Then why bother with the vocals? They sound horrendous and actively detract from any sort of structure the rest of the instruments might have constructed.

Like I said, it creates an effect over the instruments. It serves more as a rythm element, than tones. I understand why you don't like them. It's an extreme music form, and few can even stand it, I just want you to try an understand why the sound image is constructed the way it is, and see what people can like about it. I respect your personal taste, but if you will just have a look at the structure behind it, the style is far beyond the average form of composership in the music industy, as it stands today.

No, not 'beyond'. That's the wrong word entirely. That implies it's left 'standard' music in the dust while it went on to found great empires, which we both know is not what's happening here. I've seen the structure of death metal, and it made me want to eat my hands out of irritation. It sounds awful, the structure makes no damn sense, and yet its fans hold it like it's the key to the gate of St Peter. Honestly...I've been on a few death metal videos, and the comments are 99% "metal is the only real music" or those really, really idiotic "you say Justin Bieber, I say (obscure metal band)", then add 96% of teens have turned to pop and rap, if you're one of the 4% that still listen to real music, copy this.

I understand that you find that shit everywhere...but you find it nowhere so frequently as some underground death metal band that literally DOES get by on being edgy. My friend is heavily into death metal, including Cannibal Corpse. He likes the lyrics. Doesn't take them seriously, but then, this is a guy who'll burst out laughing if you simply say 'Jews' in his general direction. He's a unique sort of guy.

 

[Xerxesrogue]

I stand by the "beyond the average form of composership" part still, because "standard" music (if you prefer that term) is more a form of song writing, if that makes any sense. It relies more on catchy tunes, a simple rhythm and the fore mentioned vocals, and lying in an entirely different direction, in the spectrum of music. The statement was not meant snobby and superior, I'm just not entirely comfortable calling a pop-musician a composer, like I wouldn't call a painter a drawer.

I guess it's a preference whether to like the form of writing the death metal genre has, but I, like a lot of people find it fascinating, as a lot of music bore me, out of a lack of challenging structure.

Yeah, those kind of comments aren't the most reasonable words around, and have been pretty much milked dryer my grandmother. Damn them...

 

[Gloomsta]

Well, that's okay, because nobody has ever, or will ever care what death metal 'musicians' have to say. These are people that have no concept of art, and only of controversy, so I'm really not surprised that they think they're all unique and special for talking shit like this.

Clearly youve never heard of Cynic,Atheist,At The Gates or Gorguts.

However no one should ever take Cannibal Corpse seriously.

 

[Gloomsta]

Then why bother with the vocals? They sound horrendous and actively detract from any sort of structure the rest of the instruments might have constructed.

Because the vocals are awesome.

You cant prove me objectively wrong.

like I wouldn't call a painter a drawer.

That is an awful thing to say. Just as bad as to imply that pop song writers are worse than composers, when in truth their equal, A lot of Mozarts work bores me in comparison to Depeche Mode.

Painting is NOT the highest form of art, people who put painting on a pedestal are compleatly clueless about the arts.

I've seen the structure of death metal, and it made me want to eat my hands out of irritation. It sounds awful, the structure makes no damn sense,

A case of 2deep4u.

Calling it awful doesnt make what you say valid though.

Honestly...I've been on a few death metal videos, and the comments are 99% "metal is the only real music" or those really, really idiotic "you say Justin Bieber, I say (obscure metal band)", then add 96% of teens have turned to pop and rap, if you're one of the 4% that still listen to real music, copy this.

Taking youtube seriously? Are you kidding?

Also those retarded comments only take place on more mainstream metal bands, ive never seen such stuff go around on Old School Death Metal videos.

 

[Thyunda]

Then why bother with the vocals? They sound horrendous and actively detract from any sort of structure the rest of the instruments might have constructed.

Because the vocals are awesome.

You cant prove me objectively wrong.

like I wouldn't call a painter a drawer.

That is an awful thing to say. Just as bad as to imply that pop song writers are worse than composers, when in truth their equal, A lot of Mozarts work bores me in comparison to Depeche Mode.

Painting is NOT the highest form of art, people who put painting on a pedestal are compleatly clueless about the arts.

I've seen the structure of death metal, and it made me want to eat my hands out of irritation. It sounds awful, the structure makes no damn sense,

A case of 2deep4u.

Calling it awful doesnt make what you say valid though.

Honestly...I've been on a few death metal videos, and the comments are 99% "metal is the only real music" or those really, really idiotic "you say Justin Bieber, I say (obscure metal band)", then add 96% of teens have turned to pop and rap, if you're one of the 4% that still listen to real music, copy this.

Taking youtube seriously? Are you kidding?

Also those retarded comments only take place on more mainstream metal bands, ive never seen such stuff go around on Old School Death Metal videos.

Point #1, I cite absence of evidence and evidence of absence in this case.

#2 Who the hell are you to decide if people are clueless about the arts just because they prefer paintings?

#3 Too deep for me? Are you serious? No. It's not too deep for me. It's just terribly structured. If you don't build your shit to code, it might be unique and 'too deep for me', but it's still gonna collapse, and it's still gonna be your own damn fault!

 

[BrionJames]

What do you expect from a shitty death metal band? Was anyone expecting anything different from a guy, who does lead vocals for a band called "Cannibal Corpse"? Seriously...

 

[Char-Nobyl]

Erm...but he just used the word '******.' He wasn't deriding homosexuals; he used it as a general insult, which is how a lot of people use it. It isn't solidified in our culture like '******' and whatnot are, where it's unquestionable that it's against a specific demographic.

I'll concede that it wasn't a great choice of words, but come on. The guy's not reading off a script. He's just recording a video for Blizzcon, having a good time, and rattling off whatever comes to mind. Do lynch mob organizers grin while they rant? He's making an exaggerated rant about an equally exaggerated sentiment held within the WoW community.

If people are actually resorting to physical violence over this, or translating a tongue-in-cheek rivalry into outright bigotry, that's because they're retards. They're the sort of people who think that The Chappelle Show is a documentary. The Beatles weren't put on trial alongside Charles Manson, nor was J.D. Salinger prosecuted for conspiring to cause the death of John Lennon.