Gamers Without Internet Can Stick With Xbox 360, Says Microsoft

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Ultratwinkie said:
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I guess they don't give a fuck anymore because they know that they completely lost this.

Like seriously. They couldn't play the BF4 demo for a full 30 seconds, and for some reason some idiot didn't take the Crimson Dragon demo off mute.
We all know they had no hope of even surpassing Nintendo that just played it safe with games that are fun, nothing too out there.
Sony couldn't play Black Flag without crashing.

Both consoles are a mess from design to implementation.
Was it really the console or was it just stream lag?

I wonder how the WiiU will handle Black Flag. Although it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Nintendo always wants games running in top shape on their consoles

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am... am i in some kind of negative dimension?

"If you are thinking about buying our new product - think again! In some cases we recommend not doing it!"
I wasnt even considering getting a new xbox, but never did i expect them to dissuade me from it.

man... its like some kind of super villain took over microsoft. Next thing you know, they will start selling ACME self-catapults.....

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Bloedhoest said:
Does any of you guys know what internet speed is required for the xbone?
It's really low. 1.5 kps or something?( I don't know if I got the abbreviations right.)

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Nope, but I'm pretty sure the fratboys will when they get their hands on the Xbone.
 

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"Gamers Without Internet Can Stick With Xbox 360"

Hey, that's just frickin' fine by me. Just keep the games coming - or at least keep the damn servers up - and I'll be happy.

In truth, I'm a bit torn over the XBone. The actual console and every cock-eyed decision that led to its conception fills me with contempt. And yet, it's getting a load of games that I'd buy in a heartbeat if they came out for 360. Halo 5? Destiny? Mirror's friggin' Edge 2? Yes please, I'll have a slice of that.
 

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Bloedhoest said:
Does any of you guys know what internet speed is required for the xbone?
According to Microsoft its ?For an optimal experience, we recommend a broadband connection of 1.5Mbps.?

Source:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/can-your-network-handle-the-optimal-xbox-one-experience/
 

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This is the best thing I've read this week. The irony is just supreme. I thought that Jay Wilson was a stupidity distillery for thinking the same thing. It appears to be contagious, though. Hopefully, it won't spread out of its present industry, otherwise it could doom humanity.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Sony couldn't play Black Flag without crashing.

Both consoles are a mess from design to implementation.
It's an early build of the program (so ofcourse it had issues), the PS4 didn't crash the game did. Seriously get off your hate wagon on consoles and accept that not all of them are screwing the customer, just Microsoft. Wii U and PS4 seem to have gone the right path and I will definitely be getting the PS4 and probably get the Wii U once a few more games that interest me come out.

And yes there have been hiccups at E3 like any major event there is occasionally technical issues, it can't be 100% prevented. Usually their human error (like the muted sound on the XBone)
 

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RicoADF said:
Bloedhoest said:
Does any of you guys know what internet speed is required for the xbone?
According to Microsoft its ?For an optimal experience, we recommend a broadband connection of 1.5Mbps.?

Source:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/can-your-network-handle-the-optimal-xbox-one-experience/
Thanks! Well, that's one reason to buy the Xbone. My connection speed holds up. On the other hand I don't like a Hall9000/Telescreen in my room. Guess i'll buy an PS4, unless spy equipment is also mandatory on the PS4.
 

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Mattrick said Microsoft appreciates the passion of gamers but he believes gamers are ?imagining outcomes that are worse than what we believe it?s going to be in the real world.?

I agree. I see Sony getting the lion's share of the market back, a resurgence to PS2 standards, and gamers in general rallying under one banner. I don't see this as a problem for gamers.

I might consider it a problem if I had Microsoft stock, however...
 

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Go home Microsoft, you're drunk.

Seriously, it's comical at this point. Just when you think that Microsoft can't possible make themselves look any worse, they pull out something like this. At this rate, I wouldn't be that surprised if it's reviled that all the Xbone's are actually Decepticons.
 

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SpunkeyMonkey said:
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Exactly! I lived in Malaysia and the Philippines for a total of 15 years of my life, and i can tell you, having such a requirement in those locations would have been hell. Even now (i occasionally visit) the internet is better but is still unstable and liable to being knocked out for days at a time!
I think the thing is that they really can't see how big a percentage of their sales are made up from people in such similar situations.
Of course they do. Big corporations are practically nothing but statistics, and when decided to put out an always online system, there's one deciding factor, the current xbox live userbase.

They know exactly how many people exist that own 360s and use them online, and when reality checks in, they are correct to assume that those people more often then not will likely not even notice (let alone have a problem with) always being online, particularly if it's only a daily check-in.

Somewhere along the line they've looked at that number, decided it was large enough to meet their needs and targeted that demographic.

Yes, this fucks over anyone with shitty or no internet. It's not that MS does not know this, it's that they have decided that their modern system will target a modern audience, and shoddy internet people are not going to be their target demographic.

Now, I'm not sure if I'll bother with the Xbox One, but not because of any of this nonsense. Rather, I've yet to see much in the way of games that motivates me to care about any of the new consoles.

If that changes, then being among the millions who do have reliable internet, I do not particularly have a problem with any of this.
 

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Bloedhoest said:
RicoADF said:
Bloedhoest said:
Does any of you guys know what internet speed is required for the xbone?
According to Microsoft its ?For an optimal experience, we recommend a broadband connection of 1.5Mbps.?

Source:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/can-your-network-handle-the-optimal-xbox-one-experience/
Thanks! Well, that's one reason to buy the Xbone. My connection speed holds up. On the other hand I don't like a Hall9000/Telescreen in my room. Guess i'll buy an PS4, unless spy equipment is also mandatory on the PS4.
I wouldn't be so fast on the XBone, while your net may be past their suggested speeds it wont stop any drop outs by them, weather unplanned or planned (such as when they shut live down for XBone in 10-15 or so years time), the latter would basically turn off every XBone on earth and make it an effective brick. This may not be an issue to you if you only follow the newest games (I don't know your taste in games, this is not meant offensively at all), but as someone who still has his first PSX games and every game ever purchased since, that's a big deal breaker knowing they'd kill a whole generation of games in my collection.
 

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Bellvedere said:
I honestly don't understand why this is surprising let alone news.
It's mostly just the bass-akwards-ness of the whole thing. I mean, this guy is honestly suggesting that a) he (and Microsoft, by extension) just outright doesn't care that a portion of his target audience will not be able (or, in some cases, want) to purchase his product, and b) a product that will cease to be supported in a year or two and that has less power under the hood would be the logical alternative to the Xbox One, as opposed to, say, its direct competitors, the PS4 and the Wii U.

I mean. This, basically:
Sir Pootis said:
How could anyone possibly NOT see the problem with a statement like this? It can be summed up as "Don't have the ability to meet OUR console's standards? Then don't buy our console!" I mean, they're actually ENCOURAGING people not to buy their stuff? Why? What's the point?
There really doesn't seem to be a point. Not that anyone can discern, anyway.
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SpunkeyMonkey said:
"GAMERS WITHOUT INTERNET CAN GO TO SONY, NINTENDO OR THE PC"

......Just unreal.
if you don't have internet, I don't imagine you'd have a lot of use for a PC.
I've said it, like, fifty times since the Xbone was revealed, but . . . my complaint about the sorta-always-on-ness is that I live on campus at my college, and they block consoles from having access to the internet. So, I can use my PC there just fine. I can play whatever online games I like that way. I cannot, however, use a Xbone at school. So. Derp.
Ultratwinkie said:
So, your argument is basically "These things are really complicated and, as such, need constant work to perfect them . . . so it shouldn't be all that hard for these people to never fuck up ever"? I mean. Come on now, guy. It's a piece of machinery designed by humans. It's NEVER going to be perfect, and you don't know why the demo was acting so buggy. Maybe it was Sony's fault. Maybe not. Maybe everyone else just got lucky when they were doing their Black Flag demos. We don't know, and it's absolutely silly to pretend like anything (especially a goddamn computer) should ever function perfectly 100% of the time.

Fun anecdote: you know what my Xbox 360 did about an hour after I bought it? It froze right in the middle of Fallout 3. That shit happens. You can't work out every bug in every system. You're really being overly critical, I think.
 

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Wait, there's a windows 8? :p

Really, Microsoft. Lets assume people are as stupid and uninformed as you do (which they aren't) then...why would these stupid people buy yours when the console next to it in store costs less? I mean, sure, you might still keep the hardcore xbox COD players and the like...but what else? Don't you need growth? I thought that was desirable to you...
 

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You know what faceless Microsoft exec, I will. I will stick with my 360 rather than throw money at your shitty console. While I'm at it, I'll buy a PS4 and possibly upgrade my PC. Funny thing is, my connection is reasonably good. Basically MS can shove it for all it's worth.
 

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Yeah? And Microsoft Execs without tact can kiss my ass. Sadly enough they're probably still going to make millions of dollars off the stupid console because there are more than enough sheep who'll still buy the damn thing, despite the shitty online requirement and other shitty features as well as Microsoft's shitty PR which now rivals EA's in terms of shear awfulness.
 

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DoPo said:
I can't wait to see Sony taking advantage of this. So far the amount of salt they've rubbed in Microsoft's self-inflicted wound is...amusing

...oh my god this is the greatest video ever. I NEED that. I need it FRAMED.

OT: I would stick with my 360, but I dont want to buy anuything for it now because at least part of the money will go to Microsoft. I am seriously considering cancelling my Xbox Live GOLD account and just gettin PS+ instead.
 

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I guarantee you there are people in the EA boardroom right now staring longingly at their 'Worst Company in America' award weeping...'B-but...how....can we compete with this?!?!'