Games for Windows FAIL
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GWFL simply won't allow itself to be secondary in memory. Steam does have it's problems and crashes, but of the recent game systems it's King Leonidas kicking the rest of them into the pit.
No that was the old GFWL - you know... the one where they conned a load of developers (or bribed I guess) to put GFWL on your computer, which (after some xbox advertising) let you play your game.omicron1 said:
After that failed I think theyre now trying to break into the digital distribution market. It's just microsoft doesn't know how to break into a market where they aren't already in control. Hell theyre not only not in control, they are the bottom of the bin.
Imagine if steam didn't exist (I know it's like itunes disappearing) GFWL would still be lagging behind Direct2Drive, Impulse, GoG, and Greenman gaming (which launched THIS YEAR)
Boggles the mind really.
This is exactly what happened to me. The biggest mistake is that it needs .NET framework 4 yet only installs 3.
Know what I did when I finally got it working? I added it to my steam library.
For the effort I put in I wouldn't actually say it was worth the 10p.
Know what I did when I finally got it working? I added it to my steam library.
For the effort I put in I wouldn't actually say it was worth the 10p.
What's the problem with the match making system? (Has avoided DoW2's multiplayer for many other reasons.)Agiel7 said:
Also, remember everyone, GFWL started off as a pay service. Microsoft actually wanted you paying them 15 bucks a month for the privilege of being screwed this badly.
Thus far my run in with GFWL has been ok but I do recognize how horrible it most likely is. I've never actually used it to get a game I just used it to update Lost Planet 2, that I bought on steam, so I could play with GFWL players. Yes apparently microsoft released an update for GFWL players that sealed them off from the steam players. Valve only recently got them to stop being douchebags and release a fix.
I had trouble getting Steam to work on my computer. by the property of specious and convenient reason, lol steem suxorz.
I had no problems at all installing GFWL, the only one gripe I had was that there was no helpful tooltip telling you where to find your activation code and it was only through desperate clicking that I ended up finding where it ought to be.
Also, it does sound a lot like a combination of user error and lack of help from the UI.
Also, it does sound a lot like a combination of user error and lack of help from the UI.
More like average people FAIL >.>
keeping a Windows OS up-to-date isn't that hard unless of course you are five years old.
I've had my fair share of technical problems both from GFWL and Steam but when it comes down it Steam partly wins in my book because retail games get added to account in which I can download as it cannot be done in GFWL.
keeping a Windows OS up-to-date isn't that hard unless of course you are five years old.
I've had my fair share of technical problems both from GFWL and Steam but when it comes down it Steam partly wins in my book because retail games get added to account in which I can download as it cannot be done in GFWL.
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Reminds me of Windows Media Player, except that horrid pile of shit not only runs in the background but CANNOT be ended. If you end the process it just restarts without your permission automatically.
I only ever bought 1 thing on GFWL, Broken Steel for Fallout 3. Just that was a headache. It' so round-a-bout to get anything done. I mean they give you a console for GFWL in game and you can't do anything from it, I had to quit everything, get on GFWL in a browser, find it to download, etc etc. I have several games that use it - Codemasters seems to like it or something, plus Fallout 3/NV, and um... maybe a couple others. Anyway in all cases it presented some unique challenges from trying to get the CD Key in there right to simply getting it to allow me to save my games or not cause some computer crash/lockup whatever.
I HATE GFWL!!! FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!
...Although I like Windows 7. Thanks for that.
I HATE GFWL!!! FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!
...Although I like Windows 7. Thanks for that.
iTunes occupies the same region in my list of "reputable digital distributors" that GFWL does. This is mostly thanks to it's decision to only allow media downloads once (although, thankfully, it reneged on this with games - possibly because of updates). Any digital service that does that, in my mind, has signed up with the Devil and is, quite possibly, making him look the less credible partner.Sneaklemming said:
And no, Shamus, it's not pedantic to complain about Xbox advertising in Windows products. It's pointing out an obvious and severe disparity between the quality of support for the two services, whose underpinning is those nasty little "platform fees" that make MS tens of millions of dollars on every COD game that comes out. They want those seven to ten dollars. From you. From me. And Windows developers don't have to pay them. Windows customers don't have to pay them. When Paradox sells a game on Gamer's Gate, Microsoft sees none of it. And that makes them unhappy. So they tried to do something like Steam did, to take money from PC purchases, but they'd much rather have it flat-out from every game sale like they get with Xbox purchases, than to have to actually compete - to produce the better product - like they do in the PC market.
/rant. Sorry about that. Microsoft gets on my nerves sometimes.
Incidentally, does it strike anyone as odd that the forum rules on spelling for platform names are somewhat inconsistent? PC is correct, as is PlayStation - but XBox, xBox, Xbox, xbox, and XBOX are all wrong. DS and PSP fail, as does Wii and wii. Somebody want to update the spelling dictionary for us?
After fighting it in mortal combat for the Fallout 3 DLC's I elected to never use it again. I moved my DLC's to the Fallout 3/data folder, downloaded the mod that removed GFWL from the game, uninstalled the entire program, and went on with my life, happy as can be.
Then this deal came up, and I figured "eh, what the hell". So I buy the game, get a key, but I can't download it. Seems to be having the same problems you stated above.
I've since given up on it. I have better things to do then to subject myself, my computer, and my poor internet connection to the crap that is GFWL.
It was only 10 cents though, so no big loss.
Then this deal came up, and I figured "eh, what the hell". So I buy the game, get a key, but I can't download it. Seems to be having the same problems you stated above.
I've since given up on it. I have better things to do then to subject myself, my computer, and my poor internet connection to the crap that is GFWL.
It was only 10 cents though, so no big loss.
Last time I tried GFWL it was with Shadowrun.... where I was pressured into paying for an XBOX Li- sorry, a Windows Live "gaming" account to be able to properly play multiplayer. Think I gave up after 3 hours of trying to battle with its clunky overbearing interface.
Well I didn't know where to find the product key (seriously, on a Digital download?!), but it ran sort of OK for me. Still was crap though. I won't be using GFWL in the near future. Steam is all I need.