Games Now Legally Considered an Art Form (in the USA)

[Luquent]

This SHOULD go hand in hand with all games being available to all ages. A 6 year old can be trotted in front of David's wingus, but a 15 year old can't buy a game with the "F word" in it.
Come on Canada.

 

[WolfEdge]

Oh, great! Now games can steal taxpayers money!

To be honest, this is what went through my mind as well. I've never really understood why the government feels the need to fund any sort of artistic endeavor, with money taken from someone who didn't necessarily want to give it in the first place, towards a cause that doesn't really effect said person.

I mean, I'm happy we're finally gaining some protection and legitimacy and all that, but still, it's always struck an odd nerve with me.

Creativity and art are part of a healthy and free thinking society. Only .003% of the national budget goes to fund the arts, so it's not like they're making away like bandits

For example, American creativite thinking has decreased for the first time since they started measuring it.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/10/the-creativity-crisis.html

Still though, there MUST be a better way to support the arts without forcing those values on another person who may not share those ideas, as that just seems so heavy-handed in a society that claims individual freedom. Charities and auctions, for a start, so the donors could have some say in how and where the money goes, without bothering someone who doesn't want involvement.

 

[Megacherv]

All I can say is (despite being British):-

Americaaaaa, FUCK YEAH!!!

 

[MirrorForTheSun]

Still though, there MUST be a better way to support the arts without forcing those values on another person who may not share those ideas, as that just seems so heavy-handed in a society that claims individual freedom. Charities and auctions, for a start, so the donors could have some say in how and where the money goes, without bothering someone who doesn't want involvement.

Sure, as soon as you figure out a way for me not to have to give taxes for bombs and cruise missiles, or for roads to places I don't live.

 

[Nurb]

Oh, great! Now games can steal taxpayers money!

To be honest, this is what went through my mind as well. I've never really understood why the government feels the need to fund any sort of artistic endeavor, with money taken from someone who didn't necessarily want to give it in the first place, towards a cause that doesn't really effect said person.

I mean, I'm happy we're finally gaining some protection and legitimacy and all that, but still, it's always struck an odd nerve with me.

Creativity and art are part of a healthy and free thinking society. Only .003% of the national budget goes to fund the arts, so it's not like they're making away like bandits

For example, American creativite thinking has decreased for the first time since they started measuring it.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/10/the-creativity-crisis.html

Still though, there MUST be a better way to support the arts without forcing those values on another person who may not share those ideas, as that just seems so heavy-handed in a society that claims individual freedom. Charities and auctions, for a start, so the donors could have some say in how and where the money goes, without bothering someone who doesn't want involvement.

We don't all share the same political opinions but we pay taxes in order to support a place where they can be freely exchanged. It may not seem like it, but art plays an important part in fostering free thinking, and it's one of the only things about ourselves that isn't all about "What can you offer me?", where the only value we have is labor for someone else.

 

[PleasantAsAHeadcrab]

Does this mean I can FINALLY get my family to agree with me that I'm not wasting my life and 'artistic talent' by getting into game design?

 

[cookyy2k]

Is it just me that thinks while yes this will be good for the supremem court case that if the supreme court so wished they could murder this too? They could rule in CA's favour then you can bet your asses this would be reversed asap.

 

[Yureina]

That is kinda cool, even if it probably won't mean much practically.

 

[airrazor7]

This is amazing! Finally some official recognition outside of the gaming industry. I cannot wait to see when a developer takes advantage of this opportunity.

 

[ElectrifiedSorcerer]

Your move, Ebert

 

[ProtoChimp]

'Bout time. Chika chika yeah... sorry.

 

[WolfEdge]

Still though, there MUST be a better way to support the arts without forcing those values on another person who may not share those ideas, as that just seems so heavy-handed in a society that claims individual freedom. Charities and auctions, for a start, so the donors could have some say in how and where the money goes, without bothering someone who doesn't want involvement.

Sure, as soon as you figure out a way for me not to have to give taxes for bombs and cruise missiles, or for roads to places I don't live.

While I can't really speak for "cruise missiles", roads fall under state taxes, so, while it may not be perfect, that tax is a least localized to some extent, and could be argued holds some direct benefit to you.

Oh, great! Now games can steal taxpayers money!

To be honest, this is what went through my mind as well. I've never really understood why the government feels the need to fund any sort of artistic endeavor, with money taken from someone who didn't necessarily want to give it in the first place, towards a cause that doesn't really effect said person.

I mean, I'm happy we're finally gaining some protection and legitimacy and all that, but still, it's always struck an odd nerve with me.

Creativity and art are part of a healthy and free thinking society. Only .003% of the national budget goes to fund the arts, so it's not like they're making away like bandits

For example, American creativite thinking has decreased for the first time since they started measuring it.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/10/the-creativity-crisis.html

Still though, there MUST be a better way to support the arts without forcing those values on another person who may not share those ideas, as that just seems so heavy-handed in a society that claims individual freedom. Charities and auctions, for a start, so the donors could have some say in how and where the money goes, without bothering someone who doesn't want involvement.

We don't all share the same political opinions but we pay taxes in order to support a place where they can be freely exchanged. It may not seem like it, but art plays an important part in fostering free thinking, and it's one of the only things about ourselves that isn't all about "What can you offer me?", where the only value we have is labor for someone else.

I can agree that art fosters free thought, but the the forced subjugation of others to export those thoughts greatly muddles that particular message. It's forcing someone else to, not just except something they potentially don't agree with, but to actively support it through funding they don't necessarily want to give. If free thinking and free will are TRULY free, if these are things which belong to ALL individuals and not just some, then why do we feel the need to force these morals on those who don't agree with them?

 

[Dragonpit]

And so, slowly but surely, we claw our way from the depths and make ourselves known to the world! Hurray for us!

 

[Continuity]

I still don't really get why everyone thinks games have to be art.

Its to do with this Californian legal case. I'm sure the games as art debate wouldn't get 1/10th the airing it currently does without that case going on.

In short gamers don't really care if other people think of games as art or not, but they sure do care if they start making detrimental laws on the basis that they're not art.

 

[Nurb]

We don't all share the same political opinions but we pay taxes in order to support a place where they can be freely exchanged. It may not seem like it, but art plays an important part in fostering free thinking, and it's one of the only things about ourselves that isn't all about "What can you offer me?", where the only value we have is labor for someone else.

I can agree that art fosters free thought, but the the forced subjugation of others to export those thoughts greatly muddles that particular message. It's forcing someone else to, not just except something they potentially don't agree with, but to actively support it through funding they don't necessarily want to give. If free thinking and free will are TRULY free, if these are things which belong to ALL individuals and not just some, then why do we feel the need to force these morals on those who don't agree with them?

It's one of those things where it's for the good of the country as a whole even if you don't agree with everything it does like the FDA and EPA. I don't want my tax money going to fund two wars that shouldn't be going on, but I don't want it to go away completely or to spend the money it does on them.

We need it, but we can adjust how much we need it, and we're talking small potatos compared to what else money goes to.

 

[PopcornAvenger]

" US government organization-slash-program which funds artistic projects around the country "

An unwitting (?) pun on your part, Mr. Funk. Right-wingers have been, for decades, trying to cut its funds or kill the NEA entirely. Here's to hoping they never succeed (right now they're going after PBS)

 

[Mad1Cow]

I think Duke said it best "HELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!"

We just opened a bottle of bubbly done here...too much? Maybe...but everyone else has been happy celebrating a royal wedding and the death of the world's most wanted man. LET ME HAVE THIS MOMENT OF NERD VICTORY!!!

 

[WolfEdge]

We don't all share the same political opinions but we pay taxes in order to support a place where they can be freely exchanged. It may not seem like it, but art plays an important part in fostering free thinking, and it's one of the only things about ourselves that isn't all about "What can you offer me?", where the only value we have is labor for someone else.

I can agree that art fosters free thought, but the the forced subjugation of others to export those thoughts greatly muddles that particular message. It's forcing someone else to, not just except something they potentially don't agree with, but to actively support it through funding they don't necessarily want to give. If free thinking and free will are TRULY free, if these are things which belong to ALL individuals and not just some, then why do we feel the need to force these morals on those who don't agree with them?

It's one of those things where it's for the good of the country as a whole even if you don't agree with everything it does like the FDA and EPA. I don't want my tax money going to fund two wars that shouldn't be going on, but I don't want it to go away completely or to spend the money it does on them.

We need it, but we can adjust how much we need it, and we're talking small potatos compared to what else money goes to.

I can except that. I suppose I'm just overtly sensitive about this this particular issue because I'm so heavily invested in the artistic community as it is, and this particular form of injustice hits closer to home than others.

 

[Ekonk]

Yes! This is a day of celebration! Cheese for everyone!

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

More Artistic games FTW! I seriously hope this leads to a boom in mature, but fun Indie games!