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freedomweasel

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Karim Saad said:
EA (duh)
Square because of FF13
Codemasters since F1 2010
What did codemasters do to F1? I've been waiting on a few more reviews before purchasing.

OT: Game wise I don't think I have any games or developers that I outright avoid on any principles. There are of course games I choose not to purchase because I don't think they're fun. If however, not fun game part 2 changed everything and was fun, I'd buy it.
 

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Kaez said:
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That seems silly to condemn a game company because they were trying to give as much entertainment as they could. True they did go about it slightly wrong (prolly charge 50-60 dollars for each) but it seems that they really wanted to help bring a high amount of entertainment to the customers. So you would have rather waited til at least 2012 for a game had they not split it up but provided the amount of content they intended when they split it up into three games. It's not like they created the game and intentionally left things out so you could get it through DLC.

Actually lets go back in time, technically every game that has an expansion is considered an unfinished game until you installed that expansion. Generally companies used to release expansions to include things that didn't make the cut, or could improve on the existing formula, things they wanted int he initial game, but do to time constraints or budget issues or simply not knowing how to first implement it released an unfinished game (some more polished then others). I suppose you didn't pay for those either? If you did, you technically go against your own principals.
I'm not condemning Blizzard. And your long-winded explanations don't change the fact that Wings of Liberty is still 1/3rd of the whole game.
 

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Interplay beacuse they shutdown Black Isle.

Also, IMHO HL2 is linear and kinda boring and there are like 3 enemies in the whole game. Sure the level design is nice, but there's no replay value and the episodes are seriously meh.
 

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Zynga and Activision, for their absolute lack of ethics.

I realize the point of a corporation is profit, but Zynga is still criminal and Kotick is still a prick.
 

Kaez

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JordanJefferson said:
I'm not condemning Blizzard. And your long-winded explanations don't change the fact that Wings of Liberty is still 1/3rd of the whole game.
Well you don't like the fact they did something they felt would appease the consumer, giving three times the initial content, and they made this known years before Starcraft 2: WoL was even released.

And yeah, most developers that develop an expansion simply add content that they couldn't get in the core game. I'm sure you bought Starcraft long ago (unless you were too young an age to get it when it launched) and subsequently the expansion Brood War. 9 times out 10 the content in the Brood War disc was actually stuff that was on the intial core disc, but didn't actually get coded into the final version. Hence an "unfinished" game, which sadly would be against your principals.

And for that matter, actually most games these days are "unfinished" if they are on anything but the wii and nintendo's systems in general, as most developers can't fit content into the game due to their release schedule. Do you buy those too? If you do, your going against your principals again. Unless you wait for every DLC to be released and thne company doesn't support it anymore, then you buy it for reduced prices?

As long winded as they are, they pretty much prove a point that as much as you care about that principal, it is flawed in regards to this day an age. I would assume if we lived in the 1980's when consoles were king and 56k modems were "fast", then I couldn't say it's flawed, because the good games were the finished ones, and the bad ones weren't (Most of the time).
 

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fanboys and eliteist for their utter lack of the ability to listen to an argumen and respond to it logically

besides that the whole console war and consoles vs pc they all have their own advantages and disadvantages are these people so lacking in confidence of their choice that they must defend it to other people who don't fucking care because their choice only affect them.
 

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No_Remainders said:
Bethesda. I said it.

I hate them because of what they did to Fallout 3, and more importantly, the fact that they're greedy pricks who took legal action against Interplay over NOTHING!
Bethesda. There, I said it too.
 

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Is activision a developer? If it is, than I have to go with them.

I hate IW now too. Jesus guys, how the hell could you mess up what was once better then Halo, and turned it into utter shit.

I really, really hope that Treyarch fixes the massive hole they put into the franchise for me.
 

freedomweasel

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Karim Saad said:
freedomweasel said:
Karim Saad said:
EA (duh)
Square because of FF13
Codemasters since F1 2010
What did codemasters do to F1? I've been waiting on a few more reviews before purchasing.
The pro reviews seem to be based on 3 lap little shootouts. Nothing really goes wrong there, just like in all the demo videos prior to release.

The driving is fun although the car is a bit unpredictable. You don't get much feedback from the track so you might spin without knowing why. The AI doesn't work, the FIA rules penalize you even when you're not at fault, your opponents don't have to pit even when it's mandatory, you get stuck in the pits...

I'll let the reported bug list speak for itself, it's likely they built the game and never tested it.

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316/429298-unofficial-f1-2010-bugs-errors-list.html
That's a drag. I had my worries as I don't like codemaster's other driving games. Maybe a patch will fix some of that. I sold my 360 along with forza3 to get my ps3, so hopefully GT5 doesn't dissapoint..



Gardenia said:
No_Remainders said:
Bethesda. I said it.

I hate them because of what they did to Fallout 3, and more importantly, the fact that they're greedy pricks who took legal action against Interplay over NOTHING!
Bethesda. There, I said it too.
I don't like Bethesda games either, though it's more of a gameplay/concept/design thing than anything involving Interplay.
 

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Can someone tell me why I don't like Bioware? I really don't know why but after being really excited for mass effect 1 I got bored with it half way through and because of it have no interest in other Bioware games. I don't hate them but I don't understand all the praise. A few negative comments one of the heads said about jrpgs kinda made me mad but other than that I don't really know why I don't like them.
Bioware had half-decent storytelling skills. Some people feel this makes up for the lackluster gameplay their games exhibit. A smaller number of people feel that placing in the Special Olympics that is video game storytelling makes them the second coming of Jesus.
You sir are correct and hilarious but the funny thing is I thought for as "good" and "well written" as the mass effect story was I thought it wasn't really exciting and was kinda generic and safe like something you would get out of the paperback sci-fi section of a bookstore. The terrible item management and copy paste missions were also contributing factors of just being bored with the game. I heard the second gets rid of those problems but I need the will power to finish the first in order to get the second.
 

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I was fairly neutral towards Valve until I played Half Life 2.
Now I hate them with a fiery passion.
 

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freedomweasel said:
Gardenia said:
No_Remainders said:
Bethesda. I said it.

I hate them because of what they did to Fallout 3, and more importantly, the fact that they're greedy pricks who took legal action against Interplay over NOTHING!
Bethesda. There, I said it too.
I don't like Bethesda games either, though it's more of a gameplay/concept/design thing than anything involving Interplay.
I just want a game almost free of crippling bugs. Which Bethesda has failed to deliver.

Souplex said:
I was fairly neutral towards Valve until I played Half Life 2.
Now I hate them with a fiery passion.
You are free to elaborate.
 

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Any game by Activision, although I'll still play Geometry Wars and such because I didn't know they were shit at the time I got it. No new Activision game at all for me. Also, no Blizzard games, although since I was always more of a fan of Warcaft than Starcraft, and never a Diablo fan, that isn't an issue for me. I don't think there's any other dev that bothers me. Activision games are the only ones I won't play on principle, although all the Halo fans do get on my nerves.
 

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Kaez said:
JordanJefferson said:
I'm not condemning Blizzard. And your long-winded explanations don't change the fact that Wings of Liberty is still 1/3rd of the whole game.
Well you don't like the fact they did something they felt would appease the consumer,]

I just don't agree with it.
 

Kaez

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JordanJefferson said:
Well you don't like the fact they did something they felt would appease the consumer,]

I just don't agree with it.
Clearly you haven't read my posts and just skimmed it. I am all for providing the consumer with a longer experiance, and Blizzard wins this in my books. They are providing you with seperate, but yet coheisive games with an overarching storyline. Something many game companies are trying to do. Blizzard does this successfully by offering polished games (despite what people think about "balance" it's still a polished game).

I've given you reasons that show massive faults with your principals on buying and playing "unfinished games". Essentially any game with DLC/Expansions/Massive, Noticable bugs are unfinished games. Hence why your probably only play Nintendo games (although a few have their bugs to) becuase it doesn't fit the the requirements of unfinished.

Despite what you say, this is true for most games since early in pc gaming. Though DLC has soon changed the need on expansions as most of the content an expansion provides are now going into DLC... the most notable exception that I can think of is Dragon Age : Awakening. And even that game initally was "unfinished" according to many people.
 

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I HATE JoWood on principle,because of the DISASTER that was Gothic III and what I assume Arcaia will be as well. Also,the pats-on-head retarted fellows (thanks,Mr.Croshaw!) behind Guitar Zero and Rock Bland should die in a hole. Filled with Hellfire. Also,any Final Fantasy with a number greater than nine,and in between six and eight.
 

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Willsor said:
MrDeckard said:
I hate PC gaming, because the people that do it are always so condescending and elitist. They just anger me.
The only reason PC gamers act elitist, is because most console gamers (MOST, maybe and probably not you) act like snot nosed little children who just bought a new console with daddys wallet, who think they are all the finest thing to graze gods green earth. It's a bit unrealistic to say that all PC gamers are elitist, but when you see the 'typical' squeaking arrogant American 12 year old playing COD, it kinda just proves my point.
Not saying there are no pc gamers like that, but you need a LITTLE bit of pc know-how to be a pc gamer, especially if you are building yourself.
I wouldn't say most console gamers are like that. It's the same problem as with PC elitists, the wrong crowd is getting the most attention.

Anyways, I wouldn't say I hate Valve because of their fanboys, but they did manage to ruin Half-Life 2 for me. Continually being told I would be playing God's veritable gift to the gaming world, and just finding a rather bland shooter, you can say I was more then a little disappointed. I will admit I didn't play the original, though I did read up on as much of the story as possible so I wouldn't be going in blind. However, between lack of narrative, physics puzzles, linear gameplay, physics puzzles, driving sections, physics puzzles, and very samey enemies, I just wasn't having fun. And at the end of the day, I have to say that HL2 dropped the ball on the most important part of any game I play by not being fun.
 

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OhJohnNo said:
Ekonk said:
OhJohnNo said:
Ekonk said:
GTFO and play Half-Life 2. Just do it. You won't be disappointed.

ANYWAYYYY: In before Kotick.
OhJohnNo said:
(As an aside, my copy of Half Life 2 - which I received as a present - doesn't like the way I plug my Xbox 360 into a computer monitor instead of a TV to play, so it doesn't work. I have this problem with a lot of original Xbox games, it's irritating as I can't find out for myself whether the game is any good or not.)
Yeah. Like I said, irritating.
I know, but find a way. To quote our god, mr. Croshaw, "sometimes things are popular because they are good". It's one of those times.
Well it's not as simple as you make it sound, lol. I mean, who knows, I might enjoy Half life 2 if I played it. But right now at least, I can't, and I don't know any friends who have it either. It looks possible I may get a proper TV for my 360 at Christmas, so I'll wait till then before I do anything.
Know anybody with an Xbox 360 connected to a TV? Bring it there, play it, see if your hatred is founded or not.

Yes, Valve biggest fanboy's are over zealous about Valve game, and are willing to put down other title just because it has a space marine in power armor in it (ignoring the fact that Gordon Freeman kind of invented that concept) but so are Halo fans, Sonic fans (oh god the Sonic fans) fans of ANY game will put you down for not liking their games (you do not want to start me on what I heard in defence of Sonic '06). Just remember this, the most vocal group of anything is the group that lives and dies by it.

Know that, and your travels through the internet will suddenly become much easier and much funnier if you read all the complainers in chimpmuck voices.