Games or developers you hate on principle

[Electrogecko]

There are really no games I "hate" on principle except those of the quick cash-out kind. (Shovelware- mostly on Wii, as big a fan of the Wii that I am) The big one that jumps to mind is Halo. I liked the first one when I played it. I didn't love it- I never played it online, 4 player local was fun, and I especially liked the first few missions of the campaign. But everyone seemed to think it was a godsend, and the same goes for all the new ones. None of them have been very remarkable. Outside of establishing a great control scheme FPS' on consoles and the clever dual-weilding with L and R independently, the games haven't given me anything to write home about. The most fun I've had with the series is in playing customized game types- forge is the best thing about the new games. I in no way think that they're bad. I just firmly believe, without any exageration, that it's the most over-rated series of all time, and most of the people who go gaga over it are uncultured in gaming and nostalgiea driven.

 

[Marowit]

This thread came about largely due to the masses of Valve fanboyism on this very forum.

After seeing all the hundreds of troll posts in the many recent Halo threads proclaiming how awesome Half Life 2 was and how we should be ashamed for liking anything that isn't Half Life 2, I began to lose patience. I didn't want to hear about how awesome Half Life 2 was, I wanted to have a perfectly civil discussion about Halo. Over time, this just built up - until I suddenly realised recently that I am really beginning to absolutely despise Half Life 2. I've never played it, and know near-on nothing about it...

I stopped there. Seriously, you're going to hate a game/developer on principle because their IP is loved by fans and critics alike? I don't really follow - just seems like you're trying to rebel against something that doesn't reall deserve it

I don't think there are any developers that I stick my nose up at, on principle. I lavish support when support is due, and when it's not, in my opinion, I simply won't buy their game.

There's a whole shitload of people who really need to read what I wrote, rather than just skimming it and jumping to their own conclusions.

I hate Half Life 2 (irrationally, I'll admit) because of its capacity to apparently magically transmogrify an unfortunate proportion of its fans (at least on this site) into total douchebags. And before you say anything about the Halo games and their fans, i've never seen it happen with them. Perhaps I just visit the wrong right boards.

So, let me get this straight:

Your irrational dislike of a game A.O.K. and worthy of a thread slathered with your own personal bias.

Others irrational (or rational if they have played through the game and have legitimate gripes) dislike/like of a game derails any rational conversation about a game...

Hmmm, seems like it's pretty hypocritical. I agree with you, the blind fanboy-ism that HL2 can engender is pretty silly (and can neuter conversations), but so is every other kind of blind fanboy-ism. So no, I don't need to finish reading what you wrote, nor do others - by flogging a group of fanboys you invite such treatment by firmly placing your backing with a group of fanboys. If you wanted to avoid that you could have easily done so by leaving out that personal anecdote about HL2 fanboys. Just like I'm leaving out my personal anecdotes about Halo fanboys you've so expertly avoided, somehow.

 

[Aura Guardian]

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Funny thing is...I hate valve..a lot. The only game from them I love is TF2.

 

[KaosuHamoni]

My console cost me just shy of 300 euro, a pc that could play the same quality of games would cost well over a grand................i think i can pay for several years of live subscriptions from the difference there. Also a console doesn't need to be constantly updated. Since the last console generation began most people will have gone through two PCs.
I (and most people) play games for fun I don't need the hastle just so that i can claim i'm hard core.

That is superfluous, they are in completely different leagues. I am a PS3 gamer, and I admit that PC gaming is superior. It has better hardware, is upgradeable, and has a longer lifetime. I mean yeah sure its more expensive, but your not just paying for a console are you.

Ubisoft - DRM
Activision - Bobby Kotick (Need i say more?)
EA - The whole used games thing for a start.

 

[G-X]

I'm sorry to drag the thread backward like this, but I just have to respond to the people (real or percieved) saying Half-Life 2 has a brilliant story.

What? Were you playing the same game I was? There's almost no story at all! Or rather, there's an incredibly large and complex story that the game never actually tells us, preferring to just drop tiny hints all over the place (which I actually think is a very effective and interesting approach to storytelling, but I'm trying to make a point here). As for the main narrative, I can't even remember any plot points. No, "the base is attacked so you have to go through Ravenholm" is not a plot point, it's just an excuse to go from Point A to Point B whenever the game tells us, knowing that the path will inexplicably lead to the final boss fight (you vs. an unarmed man who can't defend himself, and you're equipped with the super-powered weapon that can kill people and defile their corpses at the same time by clicking on them once, but it's okay because two instances of the recurring miniboss fight are going on at the same time. Hooray.).

I will say that Half-Life 2 is without a doubt the best game I have ever played, but that's for its incredibly intuitive and varied gameplay and beautifully presented scripted sequences, not its story.

 

[repeating integers]

So, let me get this straight:

Your irrational dislike of a game A.O.K. and worthy of a thread slathered with your own personal bias.

Others irrational (or rational if they have played through the game and have legitimate gripes) dislike/like of a game derails any rational conversation about a game...

Hmmm, seems like it's pretty hypocritical. I agree with you, the blind fanboy-ism that HL2 can engender is pretty silly (and can neuter conversations), but so is every other kind of blind fanboy-ism. So no, I don't need to finish reading what you wrote, nor do others - by flogging a group of fanboys you invite such treatment by firmly placing your backing with a group of fanboys. If you wanted to avoid that you could have easily done so by leaving out that personal anecdote about HL2 fanboys. Just like I'm leaving out my personal anecdotes about Halo fanboys you've so expertly avoided, somehow.

No, I'm not creating this thread just so I can rant on about how much I hate Valve fanboys. I created so I could hear tales of any other people who hate a game or developer on principle. You know, just like the thread title and first post say, except since you "stopped there" you have no clear understanding of what I'm actually trying to do here.

Read the thread. It helps with comprehension and avoids misunderstandings. I go to another forum where it's actually a rule that you have to read or at least skim the thread before you post in it. Maybe it should be like that here.

 

[krseyffert]

I think Zynga is the only developer I actually hate.

I agree completely

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

My console cost me just shy of 300 euro, a pc that could play the same quality of games would cost well over a grand................i think i can pay for several years of live subscriptions from the difference there. Also a console doesn't need to be constantly updated. Since the last console generation began most people will have gone through two PCs.
I (and most people) play games for fun I don't need the hastle just so that i can claim i'm hard core.

Well actually that is just plain dead wrong. Also having a high end PC does make you hard core where the fuck are you getting that from. Also on PC we enjoy games too otherwise we wouldn't play them. Why does the fact that I game on PC mean I don't enjoy games t hat is a completely pointless eiditon to your argument.

If you are talking about Wii or 360 on so many levels especally on hardware side. Just for 1 example my comp has 4x the ram of a 360. I have gone through 2 PCs in 1 and half console generations so no most normal people have not gone through 2 PCs. From scratch you can make a PC for under 1,000 euro that will last as long as a console. This is where people completely forget about PC is more expensive than console argument you have to actually buy games.

On average I have bought 14 games per year over my life. That is say 10 new games a year. Those 10 new games cost between 10 and 20 euro less on a PC than on console and that is not including Steam sales and other stuff. So over the course of 5 years which is how long said PC would last you would save 500-1,000 euro on games. Also a PC can do 100% from the get go to use a console at 100% capacity you need to buy a HDTV and a Surround Sound. HDTV costing between 200+ for a decent one and Surround Sound can cost over 100 so factor that in your console costs around 600 for starting costs to do what a PC does 1,000 so that is 400 more.

Now through in the 250 for online subs over the 5 years your up to 850. So if you want to go from scratch all you have to go is average out at buying around 3 new games a year/5 years to bring the difference to equal maybe even less.

So I won't argue on the hassle part as that is part of PC gaming which is why we like it for the flexibility. Also PC gaming is not about having top graphics. While we can if we want and have the money that is not what is generally cared about. So taking that in as the point of PC you could spend even less to get a proper gaming computer that would cost about 500-750 and last for about 2-3.

Also during the time of the PC the moeny you would save would go to upgrading over time which the only thing you really have to upgrade is graphics card and Ram. Considering that those go for around 100 min for an update each it is really like buying a new console if you want to go for post start up costs. Buying a new console would also cost around 200 so post start up costs(ie already having a gaming PC/ HDTV surround sound) actually remains more or less the same. Only the odd time will you really need to update the processor so overall a PC is equal to in price or cheap than a console.

 

[Kserijaro]

Ninja Theory.Cus they are just a bunch of misinformed penis suckers.

 

[Ampersand]

My console cost me just shy of 300 euro, a pc that could play the same quality of games would cost well over a grand................i think i can pay for several years of live subscriptions from the difference there. Also a console doesn't need to be constantly updated. Since the last console generation began most people will have gone through two PCs.
I (and most people) play games for fun I don't need the hastle just so that i can claim i'm hard core.

That is superfluous, they are in completely different leagues. I am a PS3 gamer, and I admit that PC gaming is superior. It has better hardware, is upgradeable, and has a longer lifetime. I mean yeah sure its more expensive, but your not just paying for a console are you.

Ubisoft - DRM
Activision - Bobby Kotick (Need i say more?)
EA - The whole used games thing for a start.

Dude you're reading this out of context. I don't care about what people game one. I don't play on PC anymore because it was to much hastle (FOR ME!!!) What you want to play games on is your buisness. My original comment was that i don't like it when people are snoby about what ever platform they're on.

 

[Ampersand]

My console cost me just shy of 300 euro, a pc that could play the same quality of games would cost well over a grand................i think i can pay for several years of live subscriptions from the difference there. Also a console doesn't need to be constantly updated. Since the last console generation began most people will have gone through two PCs.
I (and most people) play games for fun I don't need the hastle just so that i can claim i'm hard core.

Well actually that is just plain dead wrong. Also having a high end PC does make you hard core where the fuck are you getting that from. Also on PC we enjoy games too otherwise we wouldn't play them. Why does the fact that I game on PC mean I don't enjoy games t hat is a completely pointless eiditon to your argument.

If you are talking about Wii or 360 on so many levels especally on hardware side. Just for 1 example my comp has 4x the ram of a 360. I have gone through 2 PCs in 1 and half console generations so no most normal people have not gone through 2 PCs. From scratch you can make a PC for under 1,000 euro that will last as long as a console. This is where people completely forget about PC is more expensive than console argument you have to actually buy games.

On average I have bought 14 games per year over my life. That is say 10 new games a year. Those 10 new games cost between 10 and 20 euro less on a PC than on console and that is not including Steam sales and other stuff. So over the course of 5 years which is how long said PC would last you would save 500-1,000 euro on games. Also a PC can do 100% from the get go to use a console at 100% capacity you need to buy a HDTV and a Surround Sound. HDTV costing between 200+ for a decent one and Surround Sound can cost over 100 so factor that in your console costs around 600 for starting costs to do what a PC does 1,000 so that is 400 more.

Now through in the 250 for online subs over the 5 years your up to 850. So if you want to go from scratch all you have to go is average out at buying around 3 new games a year/5 years to bring the difference to equal maybe even less.

So I won't argue on the hassle part as that is part of PC gaming which is why we like it for the flexibility. Also PC gaming is not about having top graphics. While we can if we want and have the money that is not what is generally cared about. So taking that in as the point of PC you could spend even less to get a proper gaming computer that would cost about 500-750 and last for about 2-3.

Also during the time of the PC the moeny you would save would go to upgrading over time which the only thing you really have to upgrade is graphics card and Ram. Considering that those go for around 100 min for an update each it is really like buying a new console if you want to go for post start up costs. Buying a new console would also cost around 200 so post start up costs(ie already having a gaming PC/ HDTV surround sound) actually remains more or less the same. Only the odd time will you really need to update the processor so overall a PC is equal to in price or cheap than a console.

My original comment was about how unacceptable it is for people to be snobs about the platform they play games on. Thanks for proving my point by showing me how insufferable you can be. ^_^

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

My original comment was about how unacceptable it is for people to be snobs about the platform they play games on. Thanks for proving my point by showing me how insufferable you can be. ^_^

Well actually I wasn't commenting on that I was commenting on your ill informed point that a PC is more expensive than a consle also since I also play on the 360 I don't see how I can be a PC snob when I play on both equally. Claiming that I am apparently insufferable for putting forward a decent lengthy argument just shows how prentious you are so no considering I play both 360 and PC more or less equally I don't really see how I can be considered a snob and would like you to elobarte instead of just making basless statments in an argument.

The only way I could be considered a snob at the moment is the fact that I am being a little overbeaing. I am not being condesending or patronising you in any way. I am also not saying that PC gaming is superior and Aryan compared to consoles. I also at never point said this to be so only that PCs can be more powerful or cheaper depending on what route you go. I already said you can play consoles only if you like but they are more expensive. So I was not refering to people being snobbish about platforms I was refering to that comment which is why I snipped that bit out.

 

[swenson]

As a massive Valve fan, I'd just like to say that militant Valve fanboyism annoys me, too!

 

[Disturbed-Hell]

nintendo - they havent made a single decent game that i can rerember. oh, and they introduced motion controals.

disney - because they primerely make micky mouse and other kiddie games.

 

[Ampersand]

The only way I could be considered a snob at the moment is the fact that I am being a little overbeaing.

A little?
Listen i'm sorry, alright.
But you wrote me an essay in your last comment, it seemed a little excessive.

 

[Kaez]

Spoiler

They made this perfectly clear that it was a narrative problem, not a greed problem. I'm not sure why people haven't realized that yet. have they split any other game up into 3 sections to tell a story? I haven't seen it besides SC2. I think most people are bumsore because not everyone can play a campaign as their favorite faction. And there is no where that says they have to own WoL to play HotS or LotV, as far as I remember, they are all standalone games.

And I mean you got what 28-30 missions out of the gate, with each game adding roughly the same amount of missions AND new units for each race. And lets not even get started with the "lack of innovation". Had they changed too much and everyone would be bitching "This isn't Starcraft anymore!" and when they changed too little people complained "They didn't innovate!"

Well you can't have it both ways folks, sorry to say.

Edit: And while I'm a fan of Blizzard from playing the Diablo franchise, I don't endorse WoW, and I think providing a larger narrative to their fans that have been waiting at least 10 long years for a sequel really shouldn't complain, except they still will because they have to shell out money anyway.... which they still would have done for some other game, so really only makes you have to choose (unless you are in a good financial standing and can afford any game at anytime)

Edit 2: Oh and developers that I hate.... it's a short list, I think Bungie, but I wasn't a fan of Halo... gave it an honest try though

Actually, I personally just resent them because I just don't care for the idea of bringing out a game in parts. Either release the whole thing or don't release anything.

So you wanted a shorter story because you don't like games being split up, I guess you shouldn't play ANYTHING with sequels in regards to the same character/location, becuase that is the same thing. Most notable entries would be Halo/God of War/Gears of War/Thief 1-3/any Mario game/Zelda game/Metroid game (Prime is actually bad for this as 2-3 introduced Dark Samus as the major antagonist)/Half-Life 1-2 and Episodes 1-2/Portal 1-2 (knowing 2 isn't out yet)/Mass Effect 1-2 and eventually 3/Diablo 1-2-3.... I think there more, but it's generally the same as splitting 1 game into 3. And you'll probably say "But they were designed to be seperate games" to which my reply would be "So is Starcraft 2.... and if you have an issue with all the games being Starcraft 2, on your disc (or if you bought a digital copy) a peice of paper, add to Starcraft 2 a .3 and call it Starcraft 2.3, 2.6, and 2.9"

 

[Racthoh]

For some reason, Bioware. It might've been from that week or so when reading the News forum on here and seeing a number of articles in which they were blasting other game developers, invoking an air of superiority around themselves that just makes me hate them. Haven't played any of their games just watched reviews and I gotta say, the games look dismal and boring.

Every FPS since... Duke Nukem 3D? I hate the way FPSs play nowadays. I don't want to wait for my health to regenerate, I want weapons with a decent amount of ammo, I want to carry all of the weapons I pick up and swap as necessary, the list goes on.

World of Warcraft. Just every little aspect about it annoys me to no end and yet it's a freaking behemoth. Endgame content you do once a week, Arena PvP sticks you in a tiny box with no objective besides make the other team die (significantly less thought provoking/intriguing than most of the Battlegrounds), and the absolute worst community I've ever seen. The way guilds are handled (loot distribution, recruitment), the necessary min/maxing, the lack of variety in each class's development, the way combat is done overall. Moreso, I hate the people who claim the game has a ton of content, or that the combat handles really well, that the game is too easy while simultaneously using about 30 different add-ons that essentially play the game for them. Just... gah, it has no redeeming factors whatsoever.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

The only way I could be considered a snob at the moment is the fact that I am being a little overbeaing.

A little?
Listen i'm sorry, alright.
But you wrote me an essay in your last comment, it seemed a little excessive.

If you think it was excessive fair enough all I thought I did was explain my point in detail.

 

[omega_peaches]

I partially hate EA DICE, for making Bad Company Console only, and BC2's onslaught.

 

[Ampersand]

The only way I could be considered a snob at the moment is the fact that I am being a little overbeaing.

A little?
Listen i'm sorry, alright.
But you wrote me an essay in your last comment, it seemed a little excessive.

If you think it was excessive fair enough all I thought I did was explain my point in detail.

You're point is seen, but at the end of the day this is a matter of preference.