GameStop Says Gamers Won't Buy Consoles Without Used Games
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For fuck sake. Can someone make it clear just how much cheaper used games actually are? Because in New Zealand, they're not even ten bucks cheaper. And games here are about a hundred bucks on release.
The thing is, while ignoring Gamestop not making as much money, that'd mean a lot of people won't play some games. I never liked the Saint's Row games that much. Ive probably put about five hours into each game. All of which I borrowed from a friend. I absolutely love Red Faction: Guerilla, but I'd never have played it without borrowing it from a friend. SOmetimes you want to play a game, and enjoy it, but after however long the campaign is, you'll never touch the game again. And sometimes that's not worth buying the game in the first place........
....so...does borrowing a game from a friend the same as piracy? Because one person bought the game,and another plays the game for free...
The thing is, while ignoring Gamestop not making as much money, that'd mean a lot of people won't play some games. I never liked the Saint's Row games that much. Ive probably put about five hours into each game. All of which I borrowed from a friend. I absolutely love Red Faction: Guerilla, but I'd never have played it without borrowing it from a friend. SOmetimes you want to play a game, and enjoy it, but after however long the campaign is, you'll never touch the game again. And sometimes that's not worth buying the game in the first place........
....so...does borrowing a game from a friend the same as piracy? Because one person bought the game,and another plays the game for free...
I'm getting a new computer soon and I think that I'll be playing it a lot more then my Xbox360. Mainly as I'm a huge strategy game fan which I have been missing quite a bit and I'm interested in a lot of the exclusives such as Planetside 2.Charli said:
I'm not even sure if I'll get the new generation console; if it has all the features that I have heard about such as always online and no used games etc.
Also the other reason that I wouldn't get a console without used games is that me and my friends lend games to each other when we have completed them. Last December, I lent one of my friends Assassin's Creed 3 while he lent me Far Cry 3. I would say I lent quite a few games, no where near the amount that I buy, I bought over 30 xbox360 games and I probably lend like just saying coming up to ten I think. I have also got quite a few games cheap whilst 2nd hand when it's either a lot cheaper or I'm uncertain about a game.
See that everyone...RUMORS. Not fact. RUMORS!MikeWehner said:GameStop Says Gamers Won't Buy Consoles Without Used Games
Will stopping used games lead to console downfall? GameStop says so.
In the wake of rumors that Sony and Microsoft are planning ways to block used games on their new consoles
Pipe the hell down...for god sake.
These rumours started with just Sony, but because Microsoft are obviously well known for jumping on Sony's bandwagon (/sarcasm) a rumour just had to be made for both *rolls eyes*
Until a statement or something from either Sony or Microsoft is released, i think everyone should stop belly aching, and wait, fair enough if you have your own opinion on the matter, and what you think might happen, but don't berate them for something they haven't even confirmed! -.-
I'm going to laugh at you all when either Microsoft, Sony, or both, deny the rumours. And, if they turn out to be true, hell ill just get me a WiiU unti they see the error of there ways...simple.
Wonder why it's taking Microsoft so long to deny this rumor?arc1991 said:See that everyone...RUMORS. Not fact. RUMORS!MikeWehner said:GameStop Says Gamers Won't Buy Consoles Without Used Games
Will stopping used games lead to console downfall? GameStop says so.
In the wake of rumors that Sony and Microsoft are planning ways to block used games on their new consoles
Pipe the hell down...for god sake.
These rumours started with just Sony, but because Microsoft are obviously well known for jumping on Sony's bandwagon (/sarcasm) a rumour just had to be made for both *rolls eyes*
Until a statement or something from either Sony or Microsoft is released, i think everyone should stop belly aching, and wait, fair enough if you have your own opinion on the matter, and what you think might happen, but don't berate them for something they haven't even confirmed! -.-
I'm going to laugh at you all when either Microsoft, Sony, or both, deny the rumours. And, if they turn out to be true, hell ill just get me a WiiU unti they see the error of there ways...simple.
There's a little work-around where one waits a year & buys the game new at used prices,though this only works with physical media.
Honestly, if next gen consoles didn't play used games, I wont get them. I already have almost no income, the only way I can get games today is if I trade in games for credit to get used games, only sometimes getting new ones (if I'm lucky). Even with my low income, I would eventually save up enough for one, but if they can't play used games It's going to be impossible for me. Ill have to stick with the 360/ps3 or put what money I have into PC
Wonder why it took Glenn Beck so long to deny the rumour that he raped and murdered that little girl....Crono1973 said:
And assumes the physical media doesn't require some sort of digital key. Look, it's already a hassle to get an online pass for your new copy of a year-old EA game. The code in the box for an online pass expires after a year, you see.likalaruku said:
The other flaw is that while shelf space real estate is a factor for decreased prices, competition with the used market is another. If used sales are thwarted, prices WILL depreciate slower. Therefore, in a market where the workaround becomes more necessary, it also becomes less viable.
I wouldn't even consider buying a console without used games if publishers insist on their huge retail prices. I'll happily buy cheap games second hand, from services like Steam or GOG or rent them all year round, but can only ever afford to sink money into a new AAA release once or twice a year.
And even then, I'll only do it for games in a franchise I'm already a huge huge fan of, like Mass Effect 3 & LEGO Batman 2 (my last two new AAA games). I know there's a lot of gamers like me who rely on methods like these to play AAA games and I believe there's more than enough people out there also willing to forego a console to seriously cripple any system's chance of success.
If I could walk into a store six months after a game's come out and pick it up new for £20 instead of buying it for £10 off of Amazon, I'd be willing to do that to support the industry. But full price every time? Not a chance.
And even then, I'll only do it for games in a franchise I'm already a huge huge fan of, like Mass Effect 3 & LEGO Batman 2 (my last two new AAA games). I know there's a lot of gamers like me who rely on methods like these to play AAA games and I believe there's more than enough people out there also willing to forego a console to seriously cripple any system's chance of success.
If I could walk into a store six months after a game's come out and pick it up new for £20 instead of buying it for £10 off of Amazon, I'd be willing to do that to support the industry. But full price every time? Not a chance.
Why just Microsoft? Sony is part of this rumour to you know.Crono1973 said:Wonder why it's taking Microsoft so long to deny this rumor?arc1991 said:See that everyone...RUMORS. Not fact. RUMORS!MikeWehner said:GameStop Says Gamers Won't Buy Consoles Without Used Games
Will stopping used games lead to console downfall? GameStop says so.
In the wake of rumors that Sony and Microsoft are planning ways to block used games on their new consoles
Pipe the hell down...for god sake.
These rumours started with just Sony, but because Microsoft are obviously well known for jumping on Sony's bandwagon (/sarcasm) a rumour just had to be made for both *rolls eyes*
Until a statement or something from either Sony or Microsoft is released, i think everyone should stop belly aching, and wait, fair enough if you have your own opinion on the matter, and what you think might happen, but don't berate them for something they haven't even confirmed! -.-
I'm going to laugh at you all when either Microsoft, Sony, or both, deny the rumours. And, if they turn out to be true, hell ill just get me a WiiU unti they see the error of there ways...simple.
Also, E3 is coming in the summer, where every thing about these new consoles will undoubtedly be revealed...NOTHING has been released on any of these new consoles so why would they confirm/deny something about a console that hasn't been confirmed? Everything to do with these new consoles is rumoured. for all we know they could be shown at next years E3, and not this years.
And yet somehow, the point remains the same. Would you like it rephrased, or is the absurdity of guilt by silence apparent yet?Crono1973 said:
BCUZ MICRO$OFT IS DA DEBUL!arc1991 said:
I mean, sure, it was Sony who patented technology theoretically allowing this, and they were the first to be rumoured to do it (which makes sense as they patented the technology), but I hate Microso$oft so I'll blame them because...PONIES!
The rumor was specific to Microsoft. Sony merely has a patent which means nothing.arc1991 said:Why just Microsoft? Sony is part of this rumour to you know.Crono1973 said:Wonder why it's taking Microsoft so long to deny this rumor?arc1991 said:See that everyone...RUMORS. Not fact. RUMORS!MikeWehner said:GameStop Says Gamers Won't Buy Consoles Without Used Games
Will stopping used games lead to console downfall? GameStop says so.
In the wake of rumors that Sony and Microsoft are planning ways to block used games on their new consoles
Pipe the hell down...for god sake.
These rumours started with just Sony, but because Microsoft are obviously well known for jumping on Sony's bandwagon (/sarcasm) a rumour just had to be made for both *rolls eyes*
Until a statement or something from either Sony or Microsoft is released, i think everyone should stop belly aching, and wait, fair enough if you have your own opinion on the matter, and what you think might happen, but don't berate them for something they haven't even confirmed! -.-
I'm going to laugh at you all when either Microsoft, Sony, or both, deny the rumours. And, if they turn out to be true, hell ill just get me a WiiU unti they see the error of there ways...simple.
Also, E3 is coming in the summer, where every thing about these new consoles will undoubtedly be revealed...NOTHING has been released on any of these new consoles so why would they confirm/deny something about a console that hasn't been confirmed? Everything to do with these new consoles is rumoured. for all we know they could be shown at next years E3, and not this years.
The fact about used games that publishers aren't addressing is availability. If its not a blockbuster, it is really difficult to find a game brand new after a year. This is because unlike CDs & DVDs, games don't get re-issued. It's too expensive for the publisher. The only way to get a hold of a game that is 2+ years old is to buy it used.
I got my 360 in 2009 & I bought; Bioshock, Condmened, DMC4 & Mass Effect all used because there was no way of me buying them new.
What really pisses me off is when publishers/developers are so ignorant of this. When Epic's CEO said he hates used game sales. If it wasn't for used games I never would have bought Gears of War 2 became a big fan of the series & then buy the books, controller & then the collector's edition of Gears 3. Then get subsequently dissapointed in it.
Alot of people get into franhcises because of used gaems. If they start on the 2nd or 3rd in a series and they love it they'll then want to go back and play the previous games which is only possible with used games.
I wouldn't buy a console that wouldn't let me play used games. It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft are that stupid. Hopefully Sony aren't or otherwise the only next gen console i'll be getting is the Wii U!
I got my 360 in 2009 & I bought; Bioshock, Condmened, DMC4 & Mass Effect all used because there was no way of me buying them new.
What really pisses me off is when publishers/developers are so ignorant of this. When Epic's CEO said he hates used game sales. If it wasn't for used games I never would have bought Gears of War 2 became a big fan of the series & then buy the books, controller & then the collector's edition of Gears 3. Then get subsequently dissapointed in it.
Alot of people get into franhcises because of used gaems. If they start on the 2nd or 3rd in a series and they love it they'll then want to go back and play the previous games which is only possible with used games.
I wouldn't buy a console that wouldn't let me play used games. It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft are that stupid. Hopefully Sony aren't or otherwise the only next gen console i'll be getting is the Wii U!
No, it's not wise to remain silent. Silence in both cases leads to inferred guilt. If anything, Glenn Beck's silence is more damning than Microsoft. Not only is the comparison (of the denial, not the scope) valid, but your logic is backwards.Crono1973 said:
Sorry.