rekabdarb said:if you want a good gaming laptop Alienware, good desktop ibuypower.com
and ibuypower is vury chaep, chaep enuf to loer my inteligent evr os sighly
Shath said:Well mALX it sure isnt your name lol. I own a mALX alienware laptop. Regret it each day. I'd Guess a pimped out dell XPS could do the job?
RAKtheUndead said:I repeat my BIG NO regarding Alienware.rekabdarb said:if you want a good gaming laptop Alienware, good desktop ibuypower.com
and ibuypower is vury chaep, chaep enuf to loer my inteligent evr os sighly
Now, if you absolutely must buy a laptop with support for games (and I stand by my point that they're underpowered, over-priced and hermetically-sealed), I wouldn't spend any more than about $1,000-1,200.
$1,100 will buy you an HP HDX16t laptop with 4GB of memory and a 7,200rpm 250GB hard drive. The processor's going to be rubbish (but then, all mobile processors are in general), and you're only going to get a 9600GT graphics card, but I feel you get diminishing returns a lot more quickly with laptops than you do with desktops. Remember that Eggo presented lists with $750 quad-core desktops with GTX 280 GPUs and $1,500 Core i7 systems, and yet, $1,500 won't even buy you a quad-core when it comes to laptop money.
Well to put it nicely when i got the mALX it was practically ruined. Fans weren't put in good enough, The thing was overheating almost just after turning on, the craftsmanship was horrible and they barely installed any drivers, the sound was put so high and so much up that i turned it on for the first time and a ear piercing banshee-howl of a piping noise came up. I thought something was wrong with the computer but i checked it and it was just the driver wasn't installed correctly, I had to go onto their website and download the drivers. At the age of 15 hehe that's when i started really getting into computers cause my alienware was so screwed up by these morons that i have used the past year just trying to fix everything. Being a little noobish but learning more and more so far. You should be happy you didn't buy it. I used all my confirmation money on it. Now i think I'm just gonna scavenge it and sell the parts or something cause its a big pile of useless crap. (Sorry for long whine post)I missed this post somehow. I am glad to read that, because when they first took the mALX off the market I cried! I had been saving up for one (forever, hence the name, lol). What problems have you had? (If you don't mind me asking).
hate to bust your bubble but i play lotro with directx 10 and ultra high settings on my gateway fx series rig with 50-150 fps --- pretty good for a terrible porrtable hehRAKtheUndead said:Depends on how you want to game. I'm of the opinion that any sort of "affordable" gaming laptop offers a hopelessly mediocre experience when compared to a desktop of the same price. You've got to have it plugged in anyway, because the battery drains in no time at all, it's going to be ridiculously heavy for a laptop (which is counter-intuitive, because isn't a laptop supposed to offer mobility?), and that's not even getting into the specifications. Let's just say that medium specifications on Fallout 3 at the resolutions that a 17" laptop screen offers are bettered by my ageing desktop, which only has an 8800 GTS 320MB.lightingbird said:A lot of ignorance in this thread from so called experts. Gaming laptops work just as good as desktops. It's just a matter of opinion nothing more whether or not if you prefer one or the other. Personally, I love laptops. You can walk around any where in the house and get online or game. You just have to be careful what you buy or buy something that can be upgraded.
The best benefit for me is whenever I get a new gaming laptop. I can always sell the current one with no problem.
I know the OP wants mobility, but I don't consider that a price worth paying when you get an underperforming, hermetically-sealed package with hopelessly short battery life.
Also:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.72470
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.78113
Also, regarding my own qualifications as far as configuring computers goes:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.82919#1143294
And in terms of knowledge about computers:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.85690#1252744
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.79454#1013534
Wow they did have a nice gaming laptop.Trushot said:gateways new fx series gaming laptops are crazy good ... just no battery life obviouly so plug in play really needed if on very long
I had saved for the mALX, and when it went off the market bought both my desktop and laptop from HP with the money I had been saving for just the mALX.Shath said:Well to put it nicely when i got the mALX it was practically ruined. Fans weren't put in good enough, The thing was overheating almost just after turning on, the craftsmanship was horrible and they barely installed any drivers, the sound was put so high and so much up that i turned it on for the first time and a ear piercing banshee-howl of a piping noise came up. I thought something was wrong with the computer but i checked it and it was just the driver wasn't installed correctly, I had to go onto their website and download the drivers. At the age of 15 hehe that's when i started really getting into computers cause my alienware was so screwed up by these morons that i have used the past year just trying to fix everything. Being a little noobish but learning more and more so far. You should be happy you didn't buy it. I used all my confirmation money on it. Now i think I'm just gonna scavenge it and sell the parts or something cause its a big pile of useless crap. (Sorry for long whine post)I missed this post somehow. I am glad to read that, because when they first took the mALX off the market I cried! I had been saving up for one (forever, hence the name, lol). What problems have you had? (If you don't mind me asking).
But seriously the Dell XPS would be the "gaming" laptop of choice. It lasts long (so far my friend has his for 2 years) it runs mostly anything, I'm pretty sure it could handle oblivion. But it would definitely just be a LAN computer, cause stationary is the way to go mate.
wyh tkanh yuomALX said:rekabdarb said:if you want a good gaming laptop Alienware, good desktop ibuypower.com
and ibuypower is vury chaep, chaep enuf to loer my inteligent evr os sighly
Lol!! It left your humor intact though! Thanks, and Thanks for the laugh too.
well try ibuypower.com they sell laptops tooRAKtheUndead said:I repeat my BIG NO regarding Alienware.rekabdarb said:if you want a good gaming laptop Alienware, good desktop ibuypower.com
and ibuypower is vury chaep, chaep enuf to loer my inteligent evr os sighly
Now, if you absolutely must buy a laptop with support for games (and I stand by my point that they're underpowered, over-priced and hermetically-sealed), I wouldn't spend any more than about $1,000-1,200.
$1,100 will buy you an HP HDX16t laptop with 4GB of memory and a 7,200rpm 250GB hard drive. The processor's going to be rubbish (but then, all mobile processors are in general), and you're only going to get a 9600GT graphics card, but I feel you get diminishing returns a lot more quickly with laptops than you do with desktops. Remember that Eggo presented lists with $750 quad-core desktops with GTX 280 GPUs and $1,500 Core i7 systems, and yet, $1,500 won't even buy you a quad-core when it comes to laptop money.
rekabdarb said:mALX said:try ibuypower.com they sell laptops too
I will, and Thanks!
It's above my budget, but Thanks anyway, I do appreciate all the helpBobojo11 said:i have a Dell XPS M1730
hope this helped ^_^
If you are talking specifically about 32 bit systems(and it sounds like you are), I'm going to have to debate you on that point. While it is true that Vista will recognise 4GB of RAM, it is limited just as XP is to 3 GB, 32 bit architecture can not use the 4th and final GB of RAM. Vista's recognition of 4GB of RAM was much hyped, but it was never to be, it handles that final RAM the same way XP does, it doesn't and allows it to passively speed your system up. [Sorry if I misinterpreted you]Zankabo said:Bah, the PC Nazi's are idiots anyways.
The big downside is that for a good gaming laptop you end up paying at least twice what a desktop is going to run you. So look at paying at least $1500, if not quite a bit more.
What you want is a decent processor (dual core, 2.1ghz) and at least 3 gig of ram (which means yur gonna be running Vista, 4 is going to be better for you). Look for a laptop that is using either an ATI or an nVidia chipset (not an intel or some other type) for the video, and has _dedicated_ ram for the card. Your sound won't matter too much, if you really need better sound pick up an external USB soundcard or something.
Gateway makes reliable laptops, as does HP. Dell seems to have partnered with Alienware, and those are some pretty nice gamer laptops. The Lenova laptops seem pretty reliable also.
Okay, so here are the problems with a gaming laptop:
*Small screen (usually you get a 15 - 17" screen, but they are good screens)
*Heat (laptops get very hot, so playing for a long time could be a bad thing)
*Control (you will need to buy an external mouse, period. Trackpads are worthless for gaming)
*Longivity (gaming laptops seem to have lower battery life, probably because they have more power than a normal laptop)
*Repairs (you can't repair a laptop yourself generally. Should _anything_ break you are without a PC for awhile)
Now the gaming laptops are not too bad for portability really, what with how nicely things are getting condensed. Basically check one of the major manufacturers and see what they have under gaming laptop. 6 to 15 pounds isn't too bad.. I take my desktop machine to PAX every year.. the first year it was still in a big heavy full tower case and weighed in, just for the main box, at close to 60 pounds.
A rather nice first post. Keep it up, and welcome to The Escapist.Veovis Muad said:Engadget has been drooling over one recently: http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/19/asus-w90-gaming-laptop-gets-put-through-its-paces-raises-the-b/
I run on a last generation Macbook Pro, with 512M VRAM in the 8600M GT it comes with. 4 Gigs of RAM, 2.5 Ghz dual core intel, 250 Gig 5400 rpm HD. Very nice screen, good colors and contrast, sunlight-readable, 1440x900 15.4". It plays fallout 3 on almost full graphics in vista with upwards of 30 fps average.
Just look around for a laptop with a good video card, and you'll be fine. Now, here's the part where I wonder why you're trying to play games on a laptop. I got a good laptop instead of a good desktop and a sufficient laptop, because I decided I would be able to play games and do my development on the good laptop instead of having my good computer be stationary. Not a good idea. The only time I enjoy playing games is when I'm hooked up to my G11 and G7 and a monitor, and my laptop is on a dual fan cooling pad. Even then, I could fry eggs on it, and it'll probably start to fry my gpu. Gaming on a laptop is bad. The only time it's useful is at friend's houses, but for that you might as well make a lanbox. Also, I get about 2-3 hours out of my battery doing normal things, but gaming makes it less than half an hour, always. Just trust us, for playing the two RPG's that you named, you don't need portability. I'd suggest getting a netbook and a good desktop that you build yourself. For the same price as a laptop that plays games, you could have a far superior desktop.