Gay characters in children's cartoons
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Homosexuality is not all about sex. Why do people always assume this? The most innocent kid's TV shows depict boy-girl couples; innocent dates or whimsical little crushes between little animated people or little animated ponies...they are shown purely NON sexual relationships. We're talking about the same innocent TV shows depicting dates and whimsical little crushes between same-sex characters, intended not to teach kids about 'gay sex' at all, but that it's just as normal to be gay as it is to be straight.Calbeck said:
Let's be real here, and not unload adult issues of sex, guilt and insecurity onto the kids we're trying to teach to be nice to others regardless of their sexuality
How can you say that someone's opinion makes them a troll, just because you disagree with it?Condor219 said:
Would that not make you a troll for having an opinion that someone disagrees with?
Why did you bother posting that first part? You are only supporting in the person's mind, whom you quoted that us gay's are ignorant to listen to other's opinions. They may not be right, they don't have to be right, but you are just being impolite.
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Just so you know your statistics are wrong. 5-10% of the population are homosexual and probably around 80% are to some degree bisexual, even if it's only slightly. Also if it was a 1-2% population and you had 10 characters then there would still be a 1 in 100 chance of one being gay.Treblaine said:
Anyway, rant about statistics over I agree with what you're saying. Bisexuals sometimes have to deal with worse than homosexuals as some people refuse to believe it exists and they still have to put up with the same hatred for liking the same sex.
You're also right in the fact that it should be weaved into an interesting part of the plot of side plot or else it's pointless and damaging to the entire argument.
That is still not a majority, I know (as does everyone else) "majority" means "more than half" of something or a group of people, which I never said nor indicated.Dulcinea said:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/majority
Excuse me for nit picking but you made an open and slanderous accusation against me. Now I have pointed out where you were mistaken I suggest you edit your post. (continued in PM)
I don't see why there shouldn't be. As long as they're campy stereotypes or actually having sex, where's the problem?
Without doubt that is the correct dictionary definition.Guy Jackson said:
However the term "normal" is often used in a pejorative context, i.e: "let's go beat up that gay kid, he's not normal". This is often the way homosexual people are treated, so tend to respond badly whenever that term is thrown about.
I'm pretty sure children under a certain age, probably 12 or something. Don't really notice.
You don't care about it, since you have no interest whatsoever in sex (at least ussually) you don't care about wether someone is gay. At best a child might notice, "that man seems really happy" or something like that. And if they are told they don't mind.
same goes for race, a child couldn't care less if the person he is looking at is white, brown, black or asian.
So it's best to just let them be diverse, then thats what children will grow to assume as normal.
You don't care about it, since you have no interest whatsoever in sex (at least ussually) you don't care about wether someone is gay. At best a child might notice, "that man seems really happy" or something like that. And if they are told they don't mind.
same goes for race, a child couldn't care less if the person he is looking at is white, brown, black or asian.
So it's best to just let them be diverse, then thats what children will grow to assume as normal.
Dear legend of the interwebz...I think you just said everything that needs to be said about this entire thread ^.^Duskflamer said:
That was actually quite beautiful to read. If it were in a youtube Vlog format, I'd totally sub
Or you might as well try and teach children about marriage and relationships by making characters just hold hands and cuddle?Calbeck said:
I'm sure you knew about Mr and Mrs such-and-such who were marriage before you had a clue about how Mr Such-and-Such stuck his phallus inside Mrs Such-and-Such to create Johnny Such-and-Such.
Children learn sexual preference from the minute they can recognise gender. Any 4 year old can tell you that princes mary princesses. That kids have a mummy and daddy (not 2 daddies). Almost every cartoon reinforces heterosexual orientation without once mentioning sex.Calbeck said:
No, 10% of the population have frequent homosexual relations.ConeFTW said:
But the definition "gay" commonly means exclusive homosexual relations, with incidental to insignificant heterosexual relations.
(*the bisexual spectrum is VERY broad and can includes people who have never actually acted on their homosexual desires for whatever reason. But obviously for a statistical study they go by actual relations as it is not subjective)
You are right that a large part of the population are somewhere on the bisexual spectrum but it they never act on their same-sex or opposite-sex attractions then it's hard to ever get a metric of it as it's all so fleeting and subjective.
Then of course things are mixed up by society. Back in the 1980's Elton John married a woman, though the marriage didn't last one most consider how at the time it was legally impossible for him to marry a man nor even adopt a child. People do as best they can with the limitations their environment (including society/laws) place on them.
EDITED: for great justice
Okay, i shall rephrase.Calbeck said:
Homosexuality, just like heterosexuality is not all about the actual *act* of sexual intercourse. There are many other aspects of the relationship; companionship, trust, etc etc etc, and the relationships created for a tv show like MLP are usually designed to simulate the companionships that children make, so they can relate to the on-screen characters and learn the good and the bad, what lifestyles to avoid and which ones are safe.