Gays and Homophobia

[UncertaintyPrinciple]

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't you see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because you want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. you're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

While everyone experiences harrassment due to individual quirks. Homosexuals are more concerned with a lack of rights and mass discrimination. No one has been excuted for wearing glasses since Hitler but people can still be killed for being homosexual. It is these issues which concerns the Homosexual Community.

 

[tetron]

I guess I would be a pansexual although I typically prefer women but if a guy is attractive to me well then me and him gotta become friends ^_^ heh heh heh.

It's mostly due to pure satyriasis(what they call male nymphomania apparently). Although funny enough I enjoy foreplay a lot more than sex, which is a problem I have with women because they usually just want to get straight to the old heave-ho.

In a way I would say I'm against gays/lesbians, because they should be bi(Why limit yourselves ?), and I think very lightly of sex. Oh if only it was socially acceptable to just walk up to people and engage in foreplay in public, y'know...with consent of course >.> .

 

[Fumbleumble]

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't you see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because you want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. you're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

While everyone experiences harrassment due to individual quirks. Homosexuals are more concerned with a lack of rights. No one has been excuted for wearing glasses since Hitler but people can still be killed for being homosexual. It is these issues which concerns the Homosexual Community.

WHAT lack of right.. you have them now... what's the issue?

You REALLY want to talk about lack of right????..

Try being a single, hetro white guy...... we ARE fucked.

 

[zehydra]

I'm straight. I don't care about your sexuality. If you're glbt, I'm fine with that. It does kind of annoy me though when you flaunt it around.

 

[Andrew Bohan]

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't you see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because you want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. you're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

While everyone experiences harrassment due to individual quirks. Homosexuals are more concerned with a lack of rights. No one has been excuted for wearing glasses since Hitler but people can still be killed for being homosexual. It is these issues which concerns the Homosexual Community.

WHAT lack of right.. you have them now... what's the issue?

You REALLY want to talk about lack of right????..

Try being a single, hetro white guy...... we ARE fucked.

Now I'm curious. Running for government, easier for the hetero white guy. Getting a job, no more difficult. Getting arrested. Just as easy. Explain to me how it's different. I'm not saying we don't have rights. We do. About the same ones in the UK. But how is it different being the average white male?

 

[kitsunefather]

I look at sexuality the same way I look at religion.

Its a personal thing and as long as you aren't waving it in my face expecting me to hop on board, I don't care.

 

[UncertaintyPrinciple]

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't you see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because you want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. you're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

While everyone experiences harrassment due to individual quirks. Homosexuals are more concerned with a lack of rights. No one has been excuted for wearing glasses since Hitler but people can still be killed for being homosexual. It is these issues which concerns the Homosexual Community.

WHAT lack of right.. you have them now... what's the issue?

You REALLY want to talk about lack of right????..

Try being a single, hetro white guy...... we ARE fucked.

Homosexuals may have rights in some countries but in Australia, same-sex couples can't marry and can only adopt in one state. However, what the Homosexual community finds more concerning is that in many African and Middle-eastern countries they can be excuted by the government for being Gay.

 

[Something Amyss]

WHAT lack of right.. you have them now... what's the issue?

You REALLY want to talk about lack of right????..

Try being a single, hetro white guy...... we ARE fucked.

I hope you're joking. Imaginary persecution of the poor majority.

 

[blankedboy]

In a way I would say I'm against gays/lesbians, because they should be bi(Why limit yourselves ?)

So by your logic EVERYONE should be bisexual, and that's just not going to happen, because sexuality isn't a choice. That's something that everyone (homophobes in particular) needs drilled into their skull.

However, what the Homosexual community finds more concerning is that in many African and Middle-eastern countries they can be excuted by the government for being Gay.

This is another good point. The instant I saw this map of World Homosexuality Laws:

I vowed never to visit most of Africa again. For obvious reasons.
Maroon is the death sentence.
Red is life in prison.
Orange is a major penalty.
Yellow is a minor penalty.
And blues are various stages of marraige legalisation.

Death sentence for homosexuality... that's where the human race has stooped to its lowest point.

 

[Fumbleumble]

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't you see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because you want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. you're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

While everyone experiences harrassment due to individual quirks. Homosexuals are more concerned with a lack of rights. No one has been excuted for wearing glasses since Hitler but people can still be killed for being homosexual. It is these issues which concerns the Homosexual Community.

WHAT lack of right.. you have them now... what's the issue?

You REALLY want to talk about lack of right????..

Try being a single, hetro white guy...... we ARE fucked.

Now I'm curious. Running for government, easier for the hetero white guy. Getting a job, no more difficult. Getting arrested. Just as easy. Explain to me how it's different. I'm not saying we don't have rights. We do. About the same ones in the UK. But how is it different being the average white male?

We don't have group shouting to keep us in the lime light.. we don't have SPECIAL laws made for us to make sure we get put at the top of the pile. (infact as far as getting a job in the uk is concerned it is now LEGAL to positively discriminate in favour of EVERYOTHER GROUP of society.. which equals NEGATIVE discrimination against hetro white male.. look it up, these laws passed '08)..

Jesus christ.. we can't even get accepted as an equally worthy parent..gay couple, give them a baby.. hetro father, give it to the mother.. so don't give me shit about how we're the better off. You ought to get your ACTUAL facts straight instead of trotting out the same old tired bullshit that hasn't been true for longer that you'd be willing to admit.

 

[AvsJoe]

Straight
For

I'm all for freedom of sexuality. You should be able to love whomever you choose so long as it's consensual and both parties are above an arbitrarily-set legal age. I fully agree with Elton John when he said:

Bands today have to learn their craft by putting the hard work in that we did when we were young performers.

...well, that one too, but I meant this one:

I think people should be free to engage in any sexual practices they choose; they should draw the line at goats though.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I"m not gay, but i think i may be slightly bi. I'm serious, i've honestly thought about living iwth a man all my life and aside from the lack of a hole and addition of another rod i think it would he same if not easier then living iwth a girl (no menstrul cycles).

But I dontk now. Anyway, I'm for gay/lesbian lifestyles. Minally cause i'm one of those people that are the live and let live kind and was never super religious. Also, I have a few lesbian friends (one pair invite me to watch them, but only cause I'm the only one that doesnt mind them being openly lesbian), and a few more gay friends (havent invited me to watch, but have hit on me once or twice) and in all honesty, I never saw anything wrong with it. And when people tell me god is against it, I just have a hard time beleive that god is that uptight about stuff like that.

 

[StBishop]

Disagree, I know for a fact that I wouldn't be able to have some of the friendships I have if I wasn't heterosexual.

I also know for a fact that there are people who openly harrass and physically assault people for their sexuality. It's still an issue dude.

However, I agree that sometimes it's frustrating having your entire day filled with minorities demanding acceptance when you already treat everyone the same regardless of who they are (not including acting like a dick).
There's still people that have a hard life due to their sexuality/religeon/race/gender/even how they were conceived(IVF vs Natural)/for being adopted etc. in first world countries.

You can't claim that sexuality isn't an issue.

OT: Sexuality doesn't offend me. I try not to offend others about such things. I can't wait for Australia to come out of the dark ages and allow gay marriage.

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't they see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because they want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. they're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

I understand that bullying happens, and is going to continue happening for all of time. Especially in highschool.

What I'm saying is that people shouldn't be treated differently by anyone, or legislation, for their sexuality, or gender, or race, or the cicumstances of their birth/conception, etc. ad infinitum.

Choices, sure, tease the kid who dresses funny, tease the kid who likes dungeons and dragons, it's unfair but it's less unfair than teasing the kid in the wheelchair because he's got paget's disease in his feet, or the kid with a birthmark covering 2/3 of his face.

I'm just trying to point out that making fun of someone for something they didn't choose is bullshit and that discrimination against homosexuals, while not as bad as it has been, is still and issue (for example, where I live - Australia - homosexual marriage is not legal) and has certainly been an issue over the last 20 years.

I also take issue with:

just because they want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism

Homosexuality isn't a choice. Sure, choosing to make out with someone of the same sex is a choice but it's a choice that people should be able to make.

I'm not sure what you're referring to at the end of your post by "attitude". If you mean a martyr-like victimised attitude, sure that can be annoying, but some people have genuine reasons to act in that way.

I find it advisable to simply assume the best possible scenario (from your point of view) and that anyone not causeing harm to another is justified in their actions, then go about living your life.

 

[UncertaintyPrinciple]

We don't have group shouting to keep us in the lime light.. we don't have SPECIAL laws made for us to make sure we get put at the top of the pile. (infact as far as getting a job in the uk is concerned it is now LEGAL to positively discriminate in favour of EVERYOTHER GROUP of society.. which equals NEGATIVE discrimination against hetro white male.. look it up, these laws passed '08)..

Jesus christ.. we can't even get accepted as an equally worthy parent.. so don't give me shit about how we're the better off. You ought to get your ACTUAL facts straight instead of trotting out the same old tired bullshit that hasn't been true for longer that you'd be willing to admit.

Please there is no need to be so aggressive, everyone here comes from different backgrounds and we do not all have knowledge about the laws in different nations. That is actually the reason I made this thread, so people can understand each of our opinions and where they have come from. I apologise if I or my thread has insulted or aggrevated you.

 

[comet5002]

My problem is not with homosexuals. My problem is with minorities in general who say "Hey, I'm a minority! Treat me special!".

Just because I'm a white heterosexual male, why am I not special at all, yet I'm the one oppressing everyone else because they're all "beneath" me.

If the above makes any sense to any of you, then congratulations. You're smarter than all of America.

No, I'm not racist, or homophobic, or sexist, or WHATEVER. Everyone saying that "gays are people too!" are the biggest hypocrites. If they're people too, and they're to be treated equally, then TREAT THEM EQUALLY. Putting them on a pedestal and baaaawing about how special they are and how oppressed they are is NOT TREATING THEM EQUALLY.

Once we can all walk down the street ignoring differences about each other and realizing that we're all human beings, that's when this will be a truly great society.

 

[Carlan]

My beliefs regarding sex are the same as my beliefs regarding violence:

So long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, it's all good.

I'm far too lazy to argue specifics, but the rampant naivety in this thread is worrying.

 

[Andrew Bohan]

WTF!!

Harrassment, bullying and general violence HAPPENS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR to someone... if it wasn't homosexuals it would be people with glasses, or a funny hairdo.. jesus christ.. if you're gonna be different in this world shit is going to happen.

Why can't you see this and quit looking for someone to blame, just because you want to be different in a world that stupidly seems to values conformism... NO-ONE has an easy time of it.

*sigh* (btw.. you're very attitude is what pisses some people off too)

While everyone experiences harrassment due to individual quirks. Homosexuals are more concerned with a lack of rights. No one has been excuted for wearing glasses since Hitler but people can still be killed for being homosexual. It is these issues which concerns the Homosexual Community.

WHAT lack of right.. you have them now... what's the issue?

You REALLY want to talk about lack of right????..

Try being a single, hetro white guy...... we ARE fucked.

Now I'm curious. Running for government, easier for the hetero white guy. Getting a job, no more difficult. Getting arrested. Just as easy. Explain to me how it's different. I'm not saying we don't have rights. We do. About the same ones in the UK. But how is it different being the average white male?

We don't have group shouting to keep us in the lime light.. we don't have SPECIAL laws made for us to make sure we get put at the top of the pile. (infact as far as getting a job in the uk is concerned it is now LEGAL to positively discriminate in favour of EVERYOTHER GROUP of society.. which equals NEGATIVE discrimination against hetro white male.. look it up, these laws passed '08)..

Jesus christ.. we can't even get accepted as an equally worthy parent.. so don't give me shit about how we're the better off. You ought to get your ACTUAL facts straight instead of trotting out the same old tired bullshit that hasn't been true for longer that you'd be willing to admit.

I was being perfectly civil. And it's not a law passed to positively discriminate in society to every other group, it's a law requiring that people be treated fairly on their qualifications. Seriously, the only laws/grants I can name that exist to get people into work via positive discrimination involve disabled people. I never once said you were better off, I asked how it was different to being bisexual. I don't want someone shouting to keep me in the limelight because frankly I don't give a shit if people know or not. If they ask, i'll be honest, but that's different. Frankly it's the same old cry from the lower and middle class in the majority. "ALL FOR THEM NONE FOR ME". It's BULLSHIT to assume a company would hire an employee purely on his/her race, religion, sexuality or gender. Honestly. I don't get special treatment and neither do you. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

Edit: Also, when the fuck was the last time an interviewer or application form asked you for your fucking sexuality. It's not relevant in the workplace so your argument falls to shit there.

 

[blankedboy]

EDIT: Escapist fucked me over and I lost my post.
Long story short, African governments are douchebags.

 

[Orange Monkey]

I'm a gay man and I don't have a problem with anyone

 

[WOPR]

I am for gay rights. Reason: they are people too. Simple as that. A person has a right to be happy. It is nobody's place to say otherwise. What you do behind closed doors is not my business(unless I am also behind them which happens more often than not).

I agree; however it bugs me when the gay guy hits on me...

Then again, I'm the person that up-roared the catholics here during the Prop 8 dispute...

mainly about me making comments around the lines of "Taking a right from a human... didn't you do that in the dark ages?" and others like "You know if you want to take away their right to be married, fine, but at least come up with a reason other then 'my imaginary friend said so!' I mean come on surely you're smarter then th- oh right..."

(for the record no I don't believe in god, and yes when it comes to protecting human rights there is no low I won't stoop to to win what's right!)

-including announcing to everyone that the leader of "no gay marriage" is the same jock-principal that "suspended me for my own safety" for "allowing myself to get beaten up"

sorry I'm starting to rant

On Topic Again: Gay's have just as many rights as straights (or should at least) and yes I am straight but being how inhuman I'm treated I will fight for human rights to the end.