Gays and Homophobia
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alright, I'll put a few points out arguing against, even thhough I don't careUncertaintyPrinciple said:
-bible says no
-first people to have aids
-bible says no to anal as well
( I am not a homophobe or a redneck bigot just puttin some points that I don't believe in to help conversation)
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People can find it disgusting that gays can express public displays of affection just as much as gays can do it. I think this because not many people will be that upset by gay pdas vs the happiness/freedom it allows gays.
I do not see ill in comparing gays to necrophiles/paedophiles etc, all he's saying is you're creating a group out of thin air with an arbitrary line to specify "rights" for.
I would like to say I'd fight for my views, however I'm lazy. I would never fight for gay marriage rights however. Marriage is some religious principle conjured up out of nowhere between a MAN and a WOMAN. (I don't actually know if this is right ...
). That's just how it is in religion(s). I don't see the problem with having a big party with confetti and bells and people vowing to love one another forever, but I don't see why calling it a marriage is a big deal when a marriage has a definition and is what it is. I wouldn't join a protest for people's rights to get married to dead people or people's rights to get married to a concept either. The whole thing seems pants on head retarded to me ^^.
A guess as to why people "hate a person for finding someone they love" would be because they are different and we're naturally afraid of what's different it would seem. *shrug*
"I'm fairly certain the laws against homosexuality were put in place simply because gay couples cannot conceive, and if they do not produce children they are limiting the growth of their society (and their life expectancies were typically well under 50 years). Thus, being gay is bad "because God said so"."
OH MY GOD! I have ALWAYS been suspicious of this! I know you havn't confirmed anything but it's cool to hear these thoughts from someone else
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BEING a necrophile, pedophile, zoopheliac, into beastiality is fine imo. Actually fucking a kid or animal however I think is wrong and should be banned, I've always had a wierd view on necrophelia though. It's pretty standard and accepted for vibrators to be okay in society, and I don't see a huge difference between that and fucking a dead person IN REGARDS TO whether or not people should be allowed to do it, other than it would be seen as disrespectful. My opinion is that even though it disgusts me (and for what it's worth vibrator's do not), no damage is actually being done to anything, there's just a guy or girl with a fringe fetish entertaining him or herself.
My way of seeing things is basically based on Utilitarianism (I think).
I just realised with my wierd views on necrophelia I'm probably going to derail the thread. I knew I was going to get trolls/haters but I'm sorry op I'm also sorry I don't have any wierd hate/negative views towards gays or bis or anything, I guess we're all too clever for that shit nowadays?
Another possibly derailing idea:
If a gay person were to hit on me I would feel complimented, even though I'm being attractive to the gender for whom I have no intention of being attractive for.
Also I really dislike people talking about "rights", probably because it means so little to me, yet people think they have the right to do anything at all as long as it doesn't sound stupid. All I see that makes sense is people can be happy and sad. Freedom can make people happy, but some people saying they have the right to do (insert random thing they'd LIKE to be able to do here) and it sounds awesome because you used the word "right", you amazing humanitarian you. This view, I expect, will land me in the ****.
Thanks for making the thread op, and I'm not trying to be abusive or aggressive, just adding some thoughts. <3
People can find it disgusting that gays can express public displays of affection just as much as gays can do it. I think this because not many people will be that upset by gay pdas vs the happiness/freedom it allows gays.
I do not see ill in comparing gays to necrophiles/paedophiles etc, all he's saying is you're creating a group out of thin air with an arbitrary line to specify "rights" for.
I would like to say I'd fight for my views, however I'm lazy. I would never fight for gay marriage rights however. Marriage is some religious principle conjured up out of nowhere between a MAN and a WOMAN. (I don't actually know if this is right ...
). That's just how it is in religion(s). I don't see the problem with having a big party with confetti and bells and people vowing to love one another forever, but I don't see why calling it a marriage is a big deal when a marriage has a definition and is what it is. I wouldn't join a protest for people's rights to get married to dead people or people's rights to get married to a concept either. The whole thing seems pants on head retarded to me ^^.A guess as to why people "hate a person for finding someone they love" would be because they are different and we're naturally afraid of what's different it would seem. *shrug*
"I'm fairly certain the laws against homosexuality were put in place simply because gay couples cannot conceive, and if they do not produce children they are limiting the growth of their society (and their life expectancies were typically well under 50 years). Thus, being gay is bad "because God said so"."
OH MY GOD! I have ALWAYS been suspicious of this! I know you havn't confirmed anything but it's cool to hear these thoughts from someone else
NOT POSTED BEFORE POSSIBLY:
BEING a necrophile, pedophile, zoopheliac, into beastiality is fine imo. Actually fucking a kid or animal however I think is wrong and should be banned, I've always had a wierd view on necrophelia though. It's pretty standard and accepted for vibrators to be okay in society, and I don't see a huge difference between that and fucking a dead person IN REGARDS TO whether or not people should be allowed to do it, other than it would be seen as disrespectful. My opinion is that even though it disgusts me (and for what it's worth vibrator's do not), no damage is actually being done to anything, there's just a guy or girl with a fringe fetish entertaining him or herself.
My way of seeing things is basically based on Utilitarianism (I think).
I just realised with my wierd views on necrophelia I'm probably going to derail the thread. I knew I was going to get trolls/haters but I'm sorry op
I'm also sorry I don't have any wierd hate/negative views towards gays or bis or anything, I guess we're all too clever for that shit nowadays?Another possibly derailing idea:
If a gay person were to hit on me I would feel complimented, even though I'm being attractive to the gender for whom I have no intention of being attractive for.
Also I really dislike people talking about "rights", probably because it means so little to me, yet people think they have the right to do anything at all as long as it doesn't sound stupid. All I see that makes sense is people can be happy and sad. Freedom can make people happy, but some people saying they have the right to do (insert random thing they'd LIKE to be able to do here) and it sounds awesome because you used the word "right", you amazing humanitarian you. This view, I expect, will land me in the ****.
Thanks for making the thread op, and I'm not trying to be abusive or aggressive, just adding some thoughts. <3
Lol.Zachary Amaranth said:
Wasn't sure how else to answer that. >_>
And as I said, I've been scorned heavily by my peers. To the point where this never seriously occurred to me until a couple of months ago. It was quite mindblowing, to say the least.
Alright, my edit's invisible. Lovely...
One of my favourite characters in fiction is Optimus Prime, famous within our fandom for his creed:
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"
That is how I feel on the subject.
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"
That is how I feel on the subject.
I don't understand how anyone can be prejudice against gay people, You can't control who you fall in love with and it doesn't hurt anyone. So in short, homosexual love is just as brilliant as heterosexual love in my book and should be celebrated just as much.
I completely agree with you and i'm in the same favour as well.Redlin5 said:
I'm fine with it but don't show it. (in public)
You could have said yes...*sobs uncontrollably*Wardnath said:
I see your edit. Sucks. Why were you scorned? I may have missed a post, but I'm a little in the dark.
Which is usually my state, so no big deal.
i do. a lot. i don't hate/am prejudiced against anything mentioned above. i just make jokes about everything, including myself.Dan Steele said:
I don't know why people think that this 'whatever they do behind closed doors' attitude toward any sexuality is healthy, accepting, or anything good.
OT: Most of my friends are gay, and no I don't mind if they express their sexuality near me, or have gay bumper-stickers on their cars or what have you because I'm not a f*cking puritan.
OT: Most of my friends are gay, and no I don't mind if they express their sexuality near me, or have gay bumper-stickers on their cars or what have you because I'm not a f*cking puritan.
Pretty sure I'm straight. I'm also for gays/lesbians/whatever. Live and let live, y'know? I never saw why I should care what other peoples' sexual preferences were, or what right I had to judge.
Edit: Just to calrify, I don't care if it's "behind closed doors" or out in the open. If two gay guys are making out right in front of me, I will however tell them to get a room, just as I would to a straight couple.
Edit: Just to calrify, I don't care if it's "behind closed doors" or out in the open. If two gay guys are making out right in front of me, I will however tell them to get a room, just as I would to a straight couple.
