Gays and Homophobia

[A Raging Emo]

I'm Bi over here. I've had sexual encounters with more women than men, and I prefer it with women, but I have enjoyed myself with some guys.

I'm all for Gay Rights, but I can also see where plenty of people are coming from: if you are Gay, don't parade it in public like you have to let everyone know. I don't care if you kiss some one goodbye or whatever, regardless of their gender, as long as you don't spend all your time making out near me, it's fine.

 

[Willwillwritehiswill]

I apologise if I offended you, just reading the article it never mentioned a defect, I concede there is a difference in brain structure but all that shows is sexual attraction is hard wired and not a birth defect. However, I'm still sorry for offending you.

You didn't offend me. The is the internet. It'll take more than that to offend me here and you certainly don't even register as a blip on my radar. I don't want you to think i'm a reactionary arsehole, because i'm not. I'm just a regular arsehole.

I don't think you're any kind of arsehole, you deduction is understandable. I merely had a different opinion on what the article meant. You saw it shows defect where I see proof that which gender one is attracted to is caused by design, there is no defect in my view just that people who like men have one kind of brain and people who like women have a different kind. Niether is right or wrong, due to a lack of evidence for both, but both are debatable. I'm also very glad I cased you no offense, I enjoy discussions not arguments

To clarify, I was responding to your point "there is no previous or current research that says homosexuals have any different brain structure" I perhaps should have mentioned then that I don't support the idea that gay people are "defective". How could I?

 

[Spoonius]

I'm all for equal rights, but the thought of fucking another guy makes me feel physically sick.

Who cares? You're not the one who's going to be doing the fucking. Also, what's with this "I'm all for X" bullshit? Do people put it there so as to emphasize that they really have no problem with X but if it relates to Y they suddenly do? It makes no sense. You can't say you're all for equal rights but then make a statement implying you want to deny someone their rights.

No. I fully support equal rights for ALL (including homosexuals), but at the same time don't personally feel comfortable about homosexuality.

So, I am all for "X", but cannot fully embrace "X" on a personal level. And there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

I'm all for equal rights, but the thought of fucking another guy makes me feel physically sick.

Who cares? You're not the one who's going to be doing the fucking. Also, what's with this "I'm all for X" bullshit? Do people put it there so as to emphasize that they really have no problem with X but if it relates to Y they suddenly do? It makes no sense. You can't say you're all for equal rights but then make a statement implying you want to deny someone their rights.

No. I fully support equal rights for ALL (including homosexuals), but at the same time don't personally feel comfortable about homosexuality.

So, I am all for "X", but cannot fully embrace "X" on a personal level. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Then I apologize. I assumed you did not want equal rights for homosexuals. Your comment implied that, or at least that's what I think it implied.

 

[UncertaintyPrinciple]

I apologise if I offended you, just reading the article it never mentioned a defect, I concede there is a difference in brain structure but all that shows is sexual attraction is hard wired and not a birth defect. However, I'm still sorry for offending you.

You didn't offend me. The is the internet. It'll take more than that to offend me here and you certainly don't even register as a blip on my radar. I don't want you to think i'm a reactionary arsehole, because i'm not. I'm just a regular arsehole.

I don't think you're any kind of arsehole, you deduction is understandable. I merely had a different opinion on what the article meant. You saw it shows defect where I see proof that which gender one is attracted to is caused by design, there is no defect in my view just that people who like men have one kind of brain and people who like women have a different kind. Niether is right or wrong, due to a lack of evidence for both, but both are debatable. I'm also very glad I cased you no offense, I enjoy discussions not arguments

To clarify, I was responding to your point "there is no previous or current research that says homosexuals have any different brain structure" I perhaps should have mentioned then that I don't support the idea that gay people are "defective". How could I?

My apologise I have about 5-6 different conversations going on at once, I may have gotten a bit confused. Sorry

 

[Spoonius]

I'm all for equal rights, but the thought of fucking another guy makes me feel physically sick.

Who cares? You're not the one who's going to be doing the fucking. Also, what's with this "I'm all for X" bullshit? Do people put it there so as to emphasize that they really have no problem with X but if it relates to Y they suddenly do? It makes no sense. You can't say you're all for equal rights but then make a statement implying you want to deny someone their rights.

No. I fully support equal rights for ALL (including homosexuals), but at the same time don't personally feel comfortable about homosexuality.

So, I am all for "X", but cannot fully embrace "X" on a personal level. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Then I apologize. I assumed you did not want equal rights for homosexuals. Your comment implied that, or at least that's what I think it implied.

My original comment may have been a little too... blunt.

 

[martin's a madman]

I hate gays because of how fabulous their musical theatre is.

Jealous is all.

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

I dislike peoples condition that it is kept behind closed doors, as though what they do is any more depraved than what heterosexual people. If what you're trying to convey is a desire for them to keep there sexual exploits private, I would have thought that applies to all sexual relations, gay or straight. I would not more like a stranger to tell me about their partners carnal adventures is they were heterosexual. Unless you are immediately bound closely with said person it's something acquaintances don't generally discuss.

However if you mean general displays of public affection, such as kissing, holding hands, all the other things people do in relationships, I don't understand what the problem is. Love is love, no matter who it's with. When I see a couple of any gender assortment being romantic I'm generally filled with a good feeling about life, rather than revulsion at their lustful exploits. Seriously, the behind closed doors stuff is an unnecessary proviso. If my gay friends want to discuss their relationship with me, confided in me something personal, I would be as open to discussion and giving advice as I would my straight friends.

I have no problem with anyone's sexual orientation if you hadn't worked it out from this.

Minor disclaimer: One thing about any public display of affection will make it annoying for me. If they're being excessively verbose and moronic when I'm forced to be near them, say on a bus, I'll tell them to develop some vocabulary and grammar before they consider furthering the discussion... well maybe not so politely. I might just tell them to shut up >.>

 

[Felix 'Solomon' Hultgren]

I'm pansexual! Woo!

 

[zama174]

I am bi.. So you can guess what I think about gay rights..

 

[ShankHA32]

I'm mostly a horrible person on this issue. When I'm alone I defend most gay rights, though I fail to see why gays pine for acceptance from the church. My brother is bisexual, and I'm all for that, as long as I'm home.

Depending on the people I am with though I become homophobic or slightly intolerant. When I hang with my prep/jock friends I never bring up my brother and most of them are surprised to learn I have one. I'm an immature high school student. It might be a problem.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

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I personally believe that being anything (black, white, chinese, Islamic, gay, straight, alien) should have no defects nor any benefits in life. If a gay guy applies for a job, as does an Indian man, and a woman, all should be judged on their merits alone. Diversity is the spice of life, but it should never be forced or come with any built in benefits.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

I'm pansexual! Woo!

I never really understood pansexuality. I know it is supposed to be you guys don't care about gender or identity, but I don't really see how that is different from bisexuality...

Care to Enlighten me?

 

[mr_rubino]

I'm mostly a horrible person on this issue. When I'm alone I defend most gay rights, though I fail to see why gays pine for acceptance from the church. My brother is bisexual, and I'm all for that, as long as I'm home.

Depending on the people I am with though I become homophobic or slightly intolerant. When I hang with my prep/jock friends I never bring up my brother and most of them are surprised to learn I have one. I'm an immature high school student. It might be a problem.

What church are they trying to get acceptance from?

 

[Arkzism]

bisexual

 

[Redalert9r9r]

Straight and totally pro Gay Rights. I don't understand what the big deal is, anyway, if we'd all just think every once in a while the world would become a much less controversial place.

I could rant for days, but, anybody who is worth their brain can figure it all out for themselves.

The fact may not be truth, but the truth is always fact.

 

[Squirrel1328]

I don't understand why people don't like gay/lesbian/bi people. Why people are so against them calling them abominations and that they're evil. Especially these ultra conservative christians who spend all their time trying to stop gay/lesbian/bi people from having the right to marry, simply because a book says they shouldn't.

I'm not gay personally i just find it frustrating that a group of people is so viciously attacked because of a 2000 year old work of fiction

 

[DiMono]

I'm straight, my cousin is gay, and it doesn't matter because it's not like he walks around reminding us about it. Don't hate someone for something they're doing in the privacy of their bedroom, and if they are flaunting it, don't hate them for being gay, hate them for being attention whores. They can't choose who they're attracted to, but the can choose whether to be a dick about it in public.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

I am hetero. I am pro-gay and anti-bi. Bisexuals are just (and only) sleazy.

I'm just going to assume you're trolling. If not, have you ever seen a bisexual that wasn't on TV?

I'm (mostly) gay.

The most obnoxious thing to me is people going around talking about how it's not a choice. First, I think it's a hopelessly confused question (a lot hinges on what you think a "choice" is and that question is remarkably harder than one would believe, as with all questions of agency and lexical semantics in general). Second, inherent in the question is a negative bias. It's like saying "I don't like what you're doing, but since you can't help it, I guess it's okay".

The fact that the LGBTIQQAWTFBBQ groups all go around talking about how they can't help being the way they are and therefore shouldn't be discriminated against bothers me even more. All I hear is "I know we're awful, but we can't help it, please pity us enough to be nice". How about we just say DON'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE. You shouldn't need to offer a reason or concession.

The "I don't mind gay people but stop flaunting it" bothers me too. Would you say that you don't mind black people so long as they cover their skin? Do you approve of Indians so long as you never have to see them eating Indian food? It's part of the gay culture, a culture that grew up as a defence against the idiocy of everyone else. Also, it's fun. If other people enjoying themselves bothers you, that's just sad. If that isn't your reason, then you're basically saying that you don't mind people being different so long as you don't have to look at it and that's pretty fucked up.

I'm straight, my cousin is gay, and it doesn't matter because it's not like he walks around reminding us about it. Don't hate someone for something they're doing in the privacy of their bedroom, and if they are flaunting it, don't hate them for being gay, hate them for being attention whores. They can't choose who they're attracted to, but the can choose whether to be a dick about it in public.

This popped up while I was posting. This is exactly what I mean. Should I be unhappy if I see you going around "flaunting" being straight? Very likely you don't even know you're acting that way since to you it's just acting "normally". Why on earth should you care if you cousin goes around "reminding" you about it if it doesn't bother you?

 

[The Robotman]

I personally do not mind homosexuals, bi-sexuals, or lesbians of any form or sanction. Hell, I'll watch two girls make out with my hand over my heart while the national anthem is fucking playing. But when homosexuals overtly pronounce themselves as gay members of the community, acting far more feminine then any woman would ever even fathom doing due to obvious death by embarrassment, I think, "Why?"
I don't go around the neighborhood, penis starkly erect, screaming "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME. I'm STRAIGHT. STRAIGHT I TELL YOU. Look at my girlfriend! LOOK AT HER DAMN'T!..."

Why must some homosexuals purvey themselves in such a flaunting and un-becoming manner as to noticeably make the public around them feel uncomfortable and insecure, to the point where we don't even care that their 'Gay', parsay, but just fucking annoying and boring individuals who have nothing to offer but their ridiculous, almost clownish charade of themselves?
I have gay friends who wear dresses who act like MEN. I have gay friends who wear lipstick and dance in the mirror and think they're pretty who still act like MEN. When are the few flamboyant homo's going to get it and just stop acting so prissy? If I were a gay man, I would be embarrassed by how these overtly pronounced homosexuals flaunt themselves around, hitting on clearly straight men and bothering the general populace as a whole by either being A: Loud and obnoxious, or B: Acting like three women in one body.

If you want to act like a girl, get a sex change, just don't grind up against me to the point where I can and will sock you in the fucking face. At least they'll learn to take a punch like a MAN if it comes down to that. I'm not targeting anyone who's gay, or has homosexual tendencies, I'm just talking about the few who really just, grind everyone's gears.
And ya'll know what I'm talking about.