Gene Simmons Declares War on Anonymous

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Lord_Panzer said:
'scusemewhat? Jeeze, you guys really take your #2 world export seriously don't you.
Full story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/19/pressandpublishing.ukcrime

I may have exaggerated a little, but not a lot.
 

Legion

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blindthrall said:
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Legion said:
Good luck to him. I am getting sick of this "Don't mess with Anonymous" fear that so many people seem to feel.
You name makes this ironic.
Anonymous didn't invent the word, nor motto. They borrowed it as I did, so I disagree.

The fact that the name and phrase is from The Bible, and Anonymous are generally seen as an Atheist group, now that's irony.
I think your name is ironic because it's something The Many would use, but you have SHODAN as an avatar.
A very good point, although I can't think of an awesome SHODAN quote that is short enough to fit.
 

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Krion_Vark said:
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Ok so Anon is the combined forces of 4chan and beyond. Gene said some dumb shit, anon hacked them, he said more dumb shit and they hacked him again. . . hmm, know what we need to get this realy going? Gene to get a few hackers of his own and hit 4chan. Now while i wait for this to happen im going to go grab some popcorn.
Gene said nothing before the first hack. They hacked his site for who and what he supports. Anon shouts out about freedom of speech and expression. Well this is one of the biggest hypocritical statements they have done that I can think of in recent memory.
I still say we need to see a hack war just for the laughs.
 

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I support Gene, partly because I like KISS, but mostly because I don't believe in people getting something for nothing. Some might call music downloading theft, some might not, but it's still free-loading, plain and simple.
 

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He is the first person i think might actually pull it off. But yeah he's probably screwed, anonymous ain't that easy.
 

Oskar K

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Gene Simmons will win. I saw him at a KISS concert and with a tounge like that he can find anything, anywhere!

.. And he wears makeup, dudes wearing warpaint are cool.
 

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Gene Simmons is a tool. The music industry rips off right and left all the time. Major LOL that they somehow are saints. Who likes his shitty music anyway? :/
 

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Setsuri21 said:
Just to throw the little tidbit out there, I love how they use guy fawkes mask's. does anyone actually understand what guy fawkes was actually trying to do?
He was trying to destablise the British government so that that the Vatican could reaquire it via chatholocism, if you believe some of the more racy theories out there they planned to instate the kings catholic daughter to replace him and rule under the pope. [/history nerd Anon]
 

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Gene is one of the shrewdest and smartest businessmen alive today, and probably the shrewedest in the music business. Watch, from 31:38 to 34:35, it's all true, as I can attest from personal experience working in the same business as Gene and earning far less from it:


Nothing will happen though. A few people will go to jail, millions more won't, Gene will make more money, lots of other people won't, nothing about the general state of play will really change. Both Gene and Anon are well-meaning paper tigers that despite their power and influence in their respective fields can't truly effect the overarching situation as much as both would like to.
 
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This won't change anything unfortunately. Everyone knows the only real way to get your voice heard is through violence. Words and crashing websites are too easily ignored. I'm supporting anon on this one. Suing the hell out of someone and ruining their lives because they stole a few poxy CDs? What a mentalist.


EDIT: Isn't funny how few people even entertain the idea of a violent attack to get ones point across. Imagine the difference the public would make if every time something that's detrimental to them ie DRM, speed cameras etc was implemented people just destroyed whoever and whatever was the source of it all? I suppose the ape in me just wants to tear stuff apart. Not that I want to tear Gene Simmons apart. I can't remember the last time I downloaded some KISS.
 

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Simmons can fuck off. He's a has-been 'tough-guy' who thinks that suing everybody is the best solution. I hate Anon, but I pray to the internet gods that they crush Gene Simmons and his middle-age-rage. The MIAA, RIAA, and all those other idiots can still go die in my opinion too. I buy my music. And even when I buy my music + movies, they muscle their fat asses in and DRM the holy living fuck-me out of the shit I paid for. So yes, I'd prefer that Anon won this one.
 

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*Sigh* much as it grates on me to side with a bunch of internet terrorists over an 80's rockstar, I have to admit that Gene Simmons is WAAAY out of line here, especially considering that he's talking about ruining people for the sake of a few cents, when he has more money than any of them will ever even see. Also, Anonymous have been involved in some good causes too, though maybe not for the right reasons. I really don't think either side deserves any success here.

Isn't funny how few people even entertain the idea of a violent attack to get ones point across. Imagine the difference the public would make if every time something that's detrimental to them ie DRM, speed cameras etc was implemented people just destroyed whoever and whatever was the source of it all?
Thats a very short sighted view. Yeah, it might get something done at first, but then the people with other opinions will resort to violence too, and there will be retribution attacks, and the whole thing will quickly spiral out of control. Imagine THAT every time some guy gets pissed off about something.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
"We will soon be printing their names and pictures," he continued. "We will find you. You cannot hide. Stay tuned."
I laughed pretty hard.

Trying to play the internet tough guy with 4chan when your identity is known is a pretty stupid idea, and this guy Gene Simmons seems like a pretty stupid man.
 

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I really hope Anonymous wins this fight. I understand points on both sides of the legal argument, but that's not really what I'm thinking about at the moment. Anonymous represents the common man. Albeit a very messed up common man, but the common man none the less. I want to see celebrity status, with all it's flashy money, taken down a goddamn notch. This is not a legitimate argument, of course. I'm just frustrated with how things are going right now.
 

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Considering that some of my favorite recording artists encourage piracy of their stuf as a free form of advertising, I can't say I support Simmons' view on this.

But 4chan leading a revolution against society? Ehh, I'm really nto sure who to side with here.
 

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Travis Higuet said:
huge wall of quotes
Actually, nevermind. I was just halfway through repeating what I said again and then I realised that you won't get what I'm trying to say anyway. I don't know why your response was so hostile when I never disagreed with anything you said in the first place. Perhaps you lack the "mental fortitude" to understand that.

Suffice it to say that you totally missed my point and I never said anything about whether I think downloading music is ok or not. Simply put: "Losses" is the wrong word. Actually, there. That's my point. Yes, it's irrelevant to "the discussion" but I don't recall participating in whatever discussion you're apparently in anyway. You just keep misinterpreting my every post and frankly, I don't see a reason to keep justifying myself here.