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I would make a joke here about Bioshock being "Babby's First System Shock", but there's no way in hell Hollywood would do anything but utterly fumble an attempt at cinematizing that, so maybe it's best that they fail small instead.
Honestly, if anyone wants a good Bioshock movie or TV show, then watch either versions of Snowpiercer.
Everybody wants that sweet MCU success without realizing how much work and creativity it took. It's like wanting to win the marathon without having to worry about tying your shoes.
They never learn. Anyone remember the Dark Universe? Where's my Capcom cinematic universe? Where's my Segamatic universe?! Huh?!
 

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They never learn. Anyone remember the Dark Universe? Where's my Capcom cinematic universe? Where's my Segamatic universe?! Huh?!
I would watch the shit out of a Sid Meier's Civilization series if it was primarily about Gandhi threatening the world with nuclear weapons.
 

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I would make a joke here about Bioshock being "Babby's First System Shock", but there's no way in hell Hollywood would do anything but utterly fumble an attempt at cinematizing that, so maybe it's best that they fail small instead.


Everybody wants that sweet MCU success without realizing how much work and creativity it took. It's like wanting to win the marathon without having to worry about tying your shoes.
More like without having to worry about actually training for it.


Anyways, it’s not often you want to root for the prosecution so badly but yeah -
 
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Just like how they blamed Anthem's shortcomings on Breath of the wild!

So much whining from EA.

1.) Covid-Yeah, everyone had to deal with Covid. Like the entire fucking planet has and is still dealing with this. Is there any evidence your company got hit harder then Ubisoft/Sony/Nintendo/etc other then you being shit at dealing with it? Are the other major game companies based on Mars or something where Covid isn't an issue?

2.) Frostbite-THIS IS YOUR PROPRITARY GAME ENGINE! FUCK, IT EXISTS MOSTLY BECAUSE OF BATTLEFIELD GAMES!

3.) Halo- HALO came out after BF and Halo is having it's own issues, dipwads.

God damnit, fucking own your mistakes. You made a bad game. Fix it and learn for the next one. Why the fuck does EA have executives that earn significantly more then the Devs when they apparently aren't doing significantly more work or managing?

Wait, they Blamed Anthem sucking on BOTW? Really? The games have like nothing in common. Nobody bought Anthem thinking it was gonna be like BOTW and visa versa. Hell, they don't even share the same platform.
 
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Just like how they blamed Anthem's shortcomings on Breath of the wild!

Cowards as usual. Nothing new here. These are the same jackasses that like to blame their consumers, when a game doesn't sell well, because it was a reboot nobody wanted. The same jackasses that said use games are killing the industry. They're willing to put anybody under the bus but themselves.

So much whining from EA.

1.) Covid-Yeah, everyone had to deal with Covid. Like the entire fucking planet has and is still dealing with this. Is there any evidence your company got hit harder then Ubisoft/Sony/Nintendo/etc other then you being shit at dealing with it? Are the other major game companies based on Mars or something where Covid isn't an issue?

2.) Frostbite-THIS IS YOUR PROPRITARY GAME ENGINE! FUCK, IT EXISTS MOSTLY BECAUSE OF BATTLEFIELD GAMES!

3.) Halo- HALO came out after BF and Halo is having it's own issues, dipwads.

God damnit, fucking own your mistakes. You made a bad game. Fix it and learn for the next one. Why the fuck does EA have executives that earn significantly more then the Devs when they apparently aren't doing significantly more work or managing?
Don't expect anything less from a AAA publisher. Same old, same old.
 

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Cowards as usual. Nothing new here. These are the same jackasses that like to blame their consumers, when a game doesn't sell well, because it was a reboot nobody wanted. The same jackasses that said use games are killing the industry. They're willing to put anybody under the bus but themselves.


Don't expect anything less from a AAA publisher. Same old, same old.
I know. I'm screaming into the void. I just get irritated when the people who had the most power to do something and the most responsibility blame anyone but themselves. It's not limited to EA but they're painting that target on their face so I'll take the shot.
 

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"We decided to create our own studio and run it on our own terms," the studio say. "Chief among them: the team comes first, always. Happy people make great games – games players want and deserve. Yes, it's as simple as that."

It's hard to read that and not remember how CD Projekt Red went against their professed beliefs by making employees crunch on Cyberpunk 2077, a game which falls short of "great".


Yeah about that last bit, it’s more so likely the case that shareholders and corporate masters went against CDPR’s beliefs that a game is done when it’s done. Granted they also had crunch problems on The Witcher 3, but to me it sounds like these guys escaped that environment to attempt a fresh start. I hope they do well.
 

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Out of curiosity, I decided to look up DICE on glassdoor. And while the ratings are great, the one constant complaint I've seen is how messy the company and the managements are. Here are some examples:

"The game studio is divided in siloes that don't share the same goals. This leads to dysfunctional communication, lack of progress, as well as a lack of a clear vision. Strong presence of office politics; persuade the right people, "play the game", and pretend like any issues are non-existent to maintain a facade amongst people."
- May 2019
"The work environment can often be toxic with bad displays of behaviour especially in the leadership ranks. There is a general lack of compassion from the top down where you are really made to feel like you are just a resource that is there to deliver results. A lack of clarity and direction in the products makes the development process chaotic, frustrating and leads to crunch."
- October 2020
"Top-heavy decision-making. Most of the time it feels like someone high above decided something and that is the law. When employees bring up feedback it's already too late because EA already signed off on it. Problem is that they tend to sign off on something completely overscoped."
- May 2021
"Management has no idea what they are doing"
- January 2022

You get the idea. Granted it is pretty easy to write fake reviews on glassdoor and some of these were probably written in spite due to admittingly piss-poor condition of BF2042, but this theme of poor management has been around a few years prior to the release of the game.

I'd like to think EA is just grinding the axe right now, ready to bring it down on DICE at the chopping block
 

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So much whining from EA.

1.) Covid-Yeah, everyone had to deal with Covid. Like the entire fucking planet has and is still dealing with this. Is there any evidence your company got hit harder then Ubisoft/Sony/Nintendo/etc other then you being shit at dealing with it? Are the other major game companies based on Mars or something where Covid isn't an issue?

2.) Frostbite-THIS IS YOUR PROPRITARY GAME ENGINE! FUCK, IT EXISTS MOSTLY BECAUSE OF BATTLEFIELD GAMES!

3.) Halo- HALO came out after BF and Halo is having it's own issues, dipwads.

God damnit, fucking own your mistakes. You made a bad game. Fix it and learn for the next one. Why the fuck does EA have executives that earn significantly more then the Devs when they apparently aren't doing significantly more work or managing?
Genuine question.

When was the last time DICE made a legit good game?

Battlefield 4?
 

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Genuine question.

When was the last time DICE made a legit good game?

Battlefield 4?
I liked BF1 but then again that's the only legit BF games I've played other then BC2(and that felt like a satire of COD: MW2). At the same time, it had issues.
Also I played the SP campaign and never touched the MP part because I'm anti-social loser who almost never enjoys playing MP.

Take that as you will.
 
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I liked BF1 but then again that's the only legit BF games I've played other then BC2(and that felt like a satire of COD: MW2). At the same time, it had issues.
Also I played the SP campaign and never touched the MP part because I'm anti-social loser who almost never enjoys playing MP.

Take that as you will.
Well thats kind of my point. Dice has been pumping out trash for ten years at this point and i dont really see why or how people expect anything different. It is like people dont learn.

Like Bioware, does anyone have any hope for the Mass Effect 4 coming out? Or Dragon Age 3? Because i sure as shit dont.

Mostly because EA is fucking retarded as a publisher.
 

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Well thats kind of my point. Dice has been pumping out trash for ten years at this point and i dont really see why or how people expect anything different. It is like people dont learn.

Like Bioware, does anyone have any hope for the Mass Effect 4 coming out? Or Dragon Age 3? Because i sure as shit dont.

Mostly because EA is fucking retarded as a publisher.
Can't argue. I got BF1 and Titanfall 2 for $20 so it was worth the $10 I paid for it to play a flawed WW1 FPS.
 
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