Just admit that you didn't actually read what he said.
Hyrule Warriors looks fucking dumb. She wears a dress with armor plates, lmao.
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Hyrule Warriors looks fucking dumb. She wears a dress with armor plates, lmao.
Only watched that first Sonic live action movie, but nobody who has ever put Sonic to film or animation understood what Sonic is. Don't feel like explaining it again but in a way that's specific to these live action movies, so I'll quote myself.
"SatAM Sonic isn't Sonic. Be honest with yourself. That show is alright, but it failed as an adaptation. Sonic and Tails are highly stylized, while all the other talking animals look like ordinary American/European talking animals, and the world too doesn't match Sonic's look at all. His environment should be jazzy, colorful, stylish as fuck, with a simplicity under it all. Look at the Japanese covers of the original trilogy to understand what Sonic is supposed to be. Lame westerners who need everything to be realistic look at Sonic's blue fur and think it needs explaining. Not in this show, but in the comics. This show isn't Sonic, they simply threw him into a mashup of Star Wars and Terminator. Robotnik looks more realistic and is blander for it. Oh, and Sonic's orb head with mohawk looks ugly, far uglier than the Japanese version, again demonstrating how the foreigners can't design with more minimalism and style. The cartoon also did not understand his cyclops eye. The pupils blinking inside the white of his eye looks fucking dumb. The Japanese games always made his eyelids either blue or the color of his arms and belly. The Japanese understood.
"If you did not know Sonic, it would take you a while to figure out that the abstract design is a hedgehog, but you look at the characters of SatAM and know immediately that Rotor is a walrus, Sally is a squirrel or chipmunk and Bunny is a rabbit.
"Anyway, that's what his surroundings should partly be: abstract.
"When I was a little kid, I remember that the Sonic pictures and little comics I drew had actual eyelids for him. Only the American and European animators who all went to the same schools and couldn't think outside the box thought he needed to blink like Mickey Mouse, with separate eyes, which also explains how the eyes are in those CG movies. The OVA is an exception for the Japanese. There he has the stupid eyelids within white eyes of the white people's version."
"SatAM Sonic isn't Sonic. Be honest with yourself. That show is alright, but it failed as an adaptation. Sonic and Tails are highly stylized, while all the other talking animals look like ordinary American/European talking animals, and the world too doesn't match Sonic's look at all. His environment should be jazzy, colorful, stylish as fuck, with a simplicity under it all. Look at the Japanese covers of the original trilogy to understand what Sonic is supposed to be. Lame westerners who need everything to be realistic look at Sonic's blue fur and think it needs explaining. Not in this show, but in the comics. This show isn't Sonic, they simply threw him into a mashup of Star Wars and Terminator. Robotnik looks more realistic and is blander for it. Oh, and Sonic's orb head with mohawk looks ugly, far uglier than the Japanese version, again demonstrating how the foreigners can't design with more minimalism and style. The cartoon also did not understand his cyclops eye. The pupils blinking inside the white of his eye looks fucking dumb. The Japanese games always made his eyelids either blue or the color of his arms and belly. The Japanese understood.
"If you did not know Sonic, it would take you a while to figure out that the abstract design is a hedgehog, but you look at the characters of SatAM and know immediately that Rotor is a walrus, Sally is a squirrel or chipmunk and Bunny is a rabbit.
"Anyway, that's what his surroundings should partly be: abstract.
"When I was a little kid, I remember that the Sonic pictures and little comics I drew had actual eyelids for him. Only the American and European animators who all went to the same schools and couldn't think outside the box thought he needed to blink like Mickey Mouse, with separate eyes, which also explains how the eyes are in those CG movies. The OVA is an exception for the Japanese. There he has the stupid eyelids within white eyes of the white people's version."
Right? This is what they chose to show first. Initial trailers for Twilight Princess and Wind Waker never would have shown Princess Zelda with the bow, since those parts were so small. That the filmmakers/studio chose to show a bow-wielding Zelda in one of the first promotional photos for an adaptation of mostly solitary adventure video games is significant.
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A little fairy would have been a great companion if they were doubtful about the movie being engaging with only Link, since a fairy can only speak, light the darkness and grab little things in small spaces for him.
I don't know why Nintendo never gave him a fairy again. Wouldn't have been just a light with wings again; we would have seen her. Maybe play as her too.
I don't know why Nintendo never gave him a fairy again. Wouldn't have been just a light with wings again; we would have seen her. Maybe play as her too.
He never reads anything people say, he just attacks people based off his locked-in opinion. Which he often hypocritically changes based on which game/thing he is either glazing or hating. I blocked him for a reason.
I do read, but I call out ridiculous bullshit when I see it. Those examples still count, so you both fail either way in your examples, but are too proud to admit it.
Bow and arrow Zelda from the games.
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Those don't count because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shut up.Bow and arrow Zelda from the games.
Waiting until they find out that drawing such a bow takes some serious upper body and arm muscles to do.I do read, but I call out ridiculous bullshit when I see it. Those examples still count, so you both fail either way in your examples, but are too proud to admit it.
Bow and arrow Zelda from the games.
A woman could never!
No wonder nobody comes to this forum as a new person, you all completely ignore the point being made and just making statements based on your soapbox.
Read my post again and point out where I said Zelda NEVER did these things.
Read my post again and point out where I said Zelda NEVER did these things.
OK, since you complained no one is directly addressing your point, let me do so. I'm not going to say your interpretation is invalid, but it's only that: an interpretation of a single picture. My interpretation of that same picture? Zelda has the bow and arrows, and is ready to use them on targets. Rather than "twiddling his thumbs like a stupid cow", Link is scouting for targets. Essentially, two seconds later if this were an action scene, he'd be the guy saying "Target on your six!" or whatever the Hyrulian equivalent is, she'd turn and shoot them. They're a team, period.
But instead of considering that, you immediately jump to the conclusion that they are making Zelda this bad-ass beyond anything, and making Link completely useless, because that's what you WANT to think they are doing. For someone who "doesn't care", as shown by the fact that you manage to know how good movies are without watching them and managing to miss out on the fact that video game movies in general have been getting at worst mixed receptions (Borderlands is considered the most recent truly bad one, although Minecraft is mostly one of those cases of "many hate it, but a few think it's enjoyable enough" type of mixed reception), but you managed to not care enough about it to complain.
She is upright and alert, and he is sitting casually almost in an uncaring and relaxed way. He isn't scouting shit, you are projecting, he is stilling there uselessly ESPECIALLY if the intent is that an action scene happens right after this, which it might or might not, who knows. He doesn't even look armed in the photo. Where's the sword, or any weapon whatsoever on him?
Look it's all projection based off a single image, but I don't really see the reason why you and others jump on me and Zeke because we express a negative opinion about something you clearly think is good. Are we not entitled to dislike the thing just as much as you're entitled to like it? Can't we simply disagree without being insulting? I havent' shit talked your opinions, so I dont understand why you have to bash ours.
I jump to the opinion I have because that's what I've been seeing in movies and games for quite a while now, the girlboss has been an insufferable character trope for a while now. If Zelda proves me wrong then i'll gladly eat crow, but I am willing to bet ya'll wont admit I was right if my prediction turns out to be true.
People have mentioned Sonic, but exceptions prove the rule. For every Sonic, there are Mortal Kombats, Dead or Alives, Tekkens, and like....what TEN Resident Evil films? Video game films CAN be good, and should be good, but Hollywood is run by idiots who don't care enough to put effort in and make something that isn't just a shitty cheap cash grab. Also Sonic isn't good, it's just not dogshit which elevates it above the rest of the video game films ever made, which the fact that it embraced being a kids movies really helped it same for Minecraft.
I'm sorry, but I don't think any of us here are qualified enough to properly unpack the insecurities that spawned these ramblings.
@Brokencontroller To be fair to Brokencontroller, that "I bet she's also gay" is usually used as a joke. And to be equally fair to him, I'll say that I'm probably taking this a bit more seriously than I should, because I'm getting a bit tired of the whole "girl-boss" thing where people complain about competent women in action films and am probably projecting way too much based on that.
To be clear, I'm not saying that there aren't films like described. Hell, it's one of several reasons I dislike The Lion King remake, because it took what was already a strong female character in Nala and ramped her up to be even better because just strong wasn't enough for Disney/Favreau. My issue is that a lot of people look at a scenario like this, see it as promoting Zelda instead of Link, and assume that they are just going to make Zelda perfect and Link useless, but wouldn't bat an eye if they reversed the scenario because in an an action movie, it's just expected that the male lead be a total badass and the woman a prize to be won without even necessarily contributing to the plot. That's really the situation I find frustration in, and I just assumed I was going down the same rabbit hole without really reading what Brokencontroller was trying to say.
That all said, I still disagree with your interpretation, Brokencontroller, but I won't say you are wrong about it, and if I ever came off as personally attacking you, that was not my intention. I still apologize nonetheless, because it isn't intention that matters, it's reception, so at best I was not coming off the way I meant to, which is still on me. The only thing I really took issue with directly in your post was anything flat-out inaccurate, like the blanket statements about there being no good video game movies or how most movies nowadays are shit, which fall into opinions in general and shouldn't therefore be called "wrong", but seemed based on incomplete data at the very least.
To be clear, I'm not saying that there aren't films like described. Hell, it's one of several reasons I dislike The Lion King remake, because it took what was already a strong female character in Nala and ramped her up to be even better because just strong wasn't enough for Disney/Favreau. My issue is that a lot of people look at a scenario like this, see it as promoting Zelda instead of Link, and assume that they are just going to make Zelda perfect and Link useless, but wouldn't bat an eye if they reversed the scenario because in an an action movie, it's just expected that the male lead be a total badass and the woman a prize to be won without even necessarily contributing to the plot. That's really the situation I find frustration in, and I just assumed I was going down the same rabbit hole without really reading what Brokencontroller was trying to say.
That all said, I still disagree with your interpretation, Brokencontroller, but I won't say you are wrong about it, and if I ever came off as personally attacking you, that was not my intention. I still apologize nonetheless, because it isn't intention that matters, it's reception, so at best I was not coming off the way I meant to, which is still on me. The only thing I really took issue with directly in your post was anything flat-out inaccurate, like the blanket statements about there being no good video game movies or how most movies nowadays are shit, which fall into opinions in general and shouldn't therefore be called "wrong", but seemed based on incomplete data at the very least.
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Zelda has shot a bow and arrow before, she has worn clothing like this before, and here she is doing exactly that. Other than thinking it looks weird in live-action, and that it's colorless, there's no reason to complain about what you're seeing. Unless ofcourse the idea of a woman with a bow and a man sitting behind her really rubs you the wrong way. In which case you need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
edit. Also, Link is Zelda's servant - she's a princess. Pretty much every cutscene in Breath of the Wild has her being in front and Link following.
Yeah, because your first response of "I bet she's also gay" is very mature and certainly deserves an unbiased stance from others.
Zelda has shot a bow and arrow before, she has worn clothing like this before, and here she is doing exactly that. Other than thinking it looks weird in live-action, and that it's colorless, there's no reason to complain about what you're seeing. Unless ofcourse the idea of a woman with a bow and a man sitting behind her really rubs you the wrong way. In which case you need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
edit. Also, Link is Zelda's servant - she's a princess. Pretty much every cutscene in Breath of the Wild has her being in front and Link following.
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Personally, I am doubting the live-action is even gonna be that good.
If it's any consolation, IMO you guys are doing much better job at this compared to MS!
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If it's any consolation, IMO you guys are doing much better job at this compared to MS!
I do read, but I call out ridiculous bullshit when I see it. Those examples still count, so you both fail either way in your examples, but are too proud to admit it.
Bow and arrow Zelda from the games.
I repeat: "Initial trailers for Twilight Princess and Wind Waker never would have shown Princess Zelda with the bow, since those parts were so small. That the filmmakers/studio chose to show a bow-wielding Zelda in one of the first promotional photos for an adaptation of mostly solitary adventure video games is significant."
Sheik only showed up a few times, always briefly. This promotional picture suggests they will travel together, betraying what the games are about. Also, Zelda disguised herself as a man in a long story of the kind this movie probably won't have time for. She did it with magic, after being introduced as a helpless girl. As the princess, she is last seen over the back of her bodyguard's saddle, and after dropping her disguise seven years later she is almost immediately trapped by a crystal. This promotion jumps straight to her as a fighter, even though it's not supposed to be her adventure, it's Link's. They don't understand The Legend of Zelda, and the owners of the IP that they licensed from don't respect it anymore.
It's weird in the first place to point to a plot twist as precedence. (And in Wind Waker the plot twist was just a lame repeat of Ocarina's. Tetra was more likable.) But Link did almost all the fighting and exploration in the game by himself. Navi was there, but she was too small to do more than speak. What did the sages do? Mostly watched. Made a bridge for him. Sealed Ganondorf in the Sacred Realm after Link defeated him with minor help from Zelda's magic.
Besides, a movie should go to the basics. First image anyone has of Princess Zelda is as a princess, not an archer in pants.