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But let's say you get the perfect director AND the budget necessary, would they actually have the dialoge be in japanese? Yeah, probably not.

That said, I don't think anime translates well to live action, stylistically. It would necessarily be a very different thing. Thinking of western directors, the first reflex is to wonder what a Cronenberg would do with it, but his first thing would be : remove all the colors. We like in the dark grey desaturated neurasthenic age of cinemy, which would be especially a shame for the transposition of an anime/manga like Akira. And then, hey, Waititi at least enjoys colors. Even if I've never seen him sufficiently self-serious. But it's an angle through which I can understand the idea. Get someone who does like comics imagery (and doesn't, like Snyder, try to turn it into his juvenile idea of "adult").

Still, if anything, I'd have been curious about a Bong Joon Ho version. I think The Host had a compatible tone.
 
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That said, I don't think anime translates well to live action, stylistically. It would necessarily be a very different thing. Thinking of western directors, the first reflex is to wonder what a Cronenberg would do with it, but his first thing would be : remove all the colors. We like in the dark grey desaturated neurasthenic age of cinemy, which would be especially a shame for the transposition of an anime/manga like Akira. And then, hey, Waititi at least enjoys colors. Even if I've never seen him sufficiently self-serious. But it's an angle through which I can understand the idea. Get someone who does like comics imagery (and doesn't, like Snyder, try to turn it into his juvenile idea of "adult").

Still, if anything, I'd have been curious about a Bong Joon Ho version. I think The Host had a compatible tone.
Well, The Matrix borrows so heavily from anime iconography that it might as well constitute as a live-action anime. And it is pretty masterfully shot, edited, and choreographed. Even the Scott Pilgrim movie manages to grant that typical anime energy to live-action without falling apart. So translating anime to live-action is possible. But doing it to an already existing anime famous for its stunning animation... Yeah, best not. We already saw what happened to Ghost in the Shell; exquisite handdrawn animation translated to mediocre CGI.

And yeah, Akira managed to be extremely colourful yet still feel horrifically bleak. I don't think a live-action director could wrap their head around that.
 
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The Matrix borrows so heavily from anime iconography that it might as well constitute as a live-action anime. And it is pretty masterfully shot, edited, and choreographed. Even the Scott Pilgrim movie manages to grant that typical anime energy to live-action without falling apart
2 Fast 2 Furious and Tokyo Drift both took from anime as well, and did it surprisingly good. It's more so noticeable in the beginning of the former, while the latter is just taking from Initial D.


Yeah, best not. We already saw what happened to Ghost in the Shell; exquisite handdrawn animation translated to mediocre CGI.
Alita did it great. The difference being the people cared behind the product with Alita. The live action Ghost in the Shell movie was just taking iconic scenes and imagery without much rhyme or reason, and doing a worse version of the first movie. Ironic, because the Japanese audiences actually enjoy the live action adaption, for the same reasons they hate the original animated movie. Try wrapping your head around that!


And yeah, Akira managed to be extremely colourful yet still feel horrifically bleak. I don't think a live-action director could wrap their head around that.
An adaption can work, it has to be done carefully and with the utmost respect and detail. If they do remake it, I don't mind them deviating a bit. Though technically we already got a remake of Akira in America. It's called Chronicle.
 

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Damn. I really dislike Luc Besson but I just realised that he would probably have made a very good Akira adaptation.
 

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Damn. I really dislike Luc Besson but I just realised that he would probably have made a very good Akira adaptation.
90s Luc Besson would have made a good one. Mid-2000s to 2010s Luc Besson would have screwed it up. That man got way too happy with shaky cam and rapid quick-cut editing. He would have made it nauseating for anybody to watch. I know the director of Drive (2011), Nicolas Winding Refn, would have made a great Akira. Denis Villeneuve even more so.
 
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(Hah, totally didn't post this in the wrong thread a second ago, stop asking questions with those eyes!)

Hope nobody was starting to get fed with reboots.


*Cackles maniacally while emotionally dead inside*

What do you do when you have a shiny new box of vintage toys to play with? You start playing with those damn things, especially if they can make you billions of dollars. That’s what Amazon is reportedly doing as it looks to capitalize on its acquisition of MGM last year. Per Deadline, Amazon is reportedly looking to relaunch and/or reboot around a dozen of MGM’s successful franchises, including RoboCop, Stargate, Legally Blonde, Fame, Barbershop, The Magnificent Seven, Pink Panther, and The Thomas Crown Affair. Just how it’ll go about this varies by project — movie or TV or both — but it means fans of each property should probably start getting excited but also brace themselves for disappointment when half of the projects never come to fruition.

It seems that it’s not just Amazon who is excited about getting these IPs back up and running, as the studio has been contacted by multiple A-list creatives to work on some of these projects, according to Deadline. That makes sense given MGM’s historical import to the film industry and the myriad of IPs that talented filmmakers probably fell in love with as children and now see an opportunity to actually work on. Who these A-listers are isn’t clear, but just running through the possible sci-fi savants that could make RoboCop truly good again is exciting.

RoboCop appears to be something that Amazon wants to turn into a larger franchise, with both a TV show and a movie in the works. The TV show may reportedly land first, followed by a motion picture. Much the same kind of effort would go into Stargate and Legally Blonde, the former of which already had a sprawling collection of TV and movies. Legally Blonde has had a third movie in the works since the last film came out, but an Amazon TV show would definitely be a new take on the series. Meanwhile, Pink Panther would seemingly move away from its live-action roots and become an animated feature film, though it’s unclear if that would star the cartoon Pink Panther or an animated Inspector Clouseau.

Fame, Barbershop, and The Magnificent Seven are all said to have TV series in the works, and The Thomas Crown Affair would get yet another movie adaptation. In ranging from RoboCop to Legally Blonde, it’s a crap ton of franchises to reboot and some of them may never see the light of day, but Amazon has a big lift if it plans to do them right. MGM has been struggling for decades to make RoboCop a thing again and couldn’t, even though 2014’s RoboCop remake was truly underrated. We’ll see if the big money, A-list talent, and desperate desire for more franchises for Amazon Prime can pull all these franchises (and more with a Creed universe coming) back to life.

In the meantime, there’s that new RoboCop video game.
Tho that RoboCop game 👀 dare to hope?

(Not the first to post I now realise, oops! But escapist link good boi points means... something?)
 
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(Hah, totally didn't post this in the wrong thread a second ago, stop asking questions with those eyes!)

Hope nobody was starting to get fed with reboots.


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Tho that RoboCop game 👀 dare to hope?

(Not the first to post I now realise, oops! But escapist link good boi points means... something?)
Well we already had one reboot of Robocop, which was crap so hypothetically the only way is up - and Amazon doesn't have to keep it PG-13 for mass movie release dollars so, give it to the team that make Reacher and you'll probably get something cool. Pink Panther was remade too, or did the Steve Martin helmed films manage to slip everyone else's minds? Legally Blonde wasn't something I give a fuck about anyway so do what you like with it, and Stargate.....I think there is some value in this, but even if it fucks up you've got like, ten or fifteen years worth of material between SG1 and Atlantis you can just go back and watch and ignore the new one to die its ignoble death.
 

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I think it would be pretty cool if we just didn't adapt Akira. It hasn't stopped being a good movie yet.
 

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I think it would be pretty cool if we just didn't adapt Akira. It hasn't stopped being a good movie yet.
Also, it's not like it's some sort of hot property or bankable name. Akira is highly respected, but it was never that popular that anyone felt the urge to do any sort of follow-up.
 
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Also, it's not like it's some sort of hot property or bankable name. Akira is highly respected, but it was never that popular that anyone felt the urge to do any sort of follow-up.
Yeah, it baffles me that they're reaching deliberately for the HARD stuff. Jesus Christ guys, there's tons of much easier shit out there.

Lets take Robotech as an example. Setting aside that its apparently three different shows that were Frankenstiened together, the first series has a premise that should be so easy to turn into at least three decently entertaining movies I'm positive the only reason it hasn't is because Harmony Gold are like a real life Orange Lantern.

Or Bubble Gum Crisis (although a name change might be in order) which is essentially what if Batman, in Iron Man suits but there's four of them and they're all ridiculously hot women and its in the Blade Runner setting. Also has bitching music.
 
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Are anyone's? Let's say you get the perfect director, you still wouldn't be able to get the budget necessary to properly put this story on screen in live-action. But let's say you get the perfect director AND the budget necessary, would they actually have the dialoge be in japanese? Yeah, probably not.

Just leave it the hell alone. Nothing can come of this other than at best mediocrity.
Fair point. I'd frank
Yeah, it baffles me that they're reaching deliberately for the HARD stuff. Jesus Christ guys, there's tons of much easier shit out there.

Lets take Robotech as an example. Setting aside that its apparently three different shows that were Frankenstiened together, the first series has a premise that should be so easy to turn into at least three decently entertaining movies I'm positive the only reason it hasn't is because Harmony Gold are like a real life Orange Lantern.

Or Bubble Gum Crisis (although a name change might be in order) which is essentially what if Batman, in Iron Man suits but there's four of them and they're all ridiculously hot women and its in the Blade Runner setting. Also has bitching music.
I haven't watched Robotech but knowing about it makes me quite fascinated.

If any anime or manga should be adapted into live action, it really should just be the more mundane ones.
 

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Not seen the show yet, so got no investment in whoever this guy is. But wow, before reading any news descriptions, was not expecting the clip recording to be worse than the Justin.R's defense of fancying minors. Like, graphically admitting sex crimes, worse.


The new Netflix and A24 series Beef, starring Ali Wong and Steven Yeun, has become a viral sensation since it premiered all 10 episodes on April 6. The comedy-drama, about a road-rage incident gone haywire, has garnered plenty of praise for its lead performances, the show’s depiction of church culture and even a Hoobastank needle drop. However, a resurfaced podcast clip featuring one of Beef’s supporting actors, David Choe, is casting a shadow over the acclaimed series. And recent efforts to erase the video from social media are making fans even more upset.

Last Thursday, reporter Aura Bogado shared a now-removed video of Choe, who plays Isaac on Beef, on his former podcast DVDASA, describing himself as a “successful rapist.” In the 2014 recording, he tells his co-hosts in graphic detail about the time he received a massage from a Black woman he calls “Rose,” masturbated in front of her and forced her to perform oral sex.



“She's definitely not into it,” the now-46-year-old says in the clip. “But she’s not stopping it either. I say, ‘Kiss it a little,’ she says, ‘No, all the massage oil is on it,’ and I take the back of her head. And I push it down on my dick, and she doesn't do it. And I say, ‘Open your mouth, open your mouth,’ and she does it. And I start facefucking her.”

In the video, which Bogado has since reposted from TikTok, one of the podcast's co-host, porn actress Asa Akira, pushes back against Choe’s upsetting claims. “You’re basically telling us that you’re a rapist right now, and the only way to get your dick hard is rape,” she says. “Yeah,” Choe responds.

This isn’t the first time Choe, a popular New York graffiti artist who’s worked with Vice, CNN, HBO, Hulu and FX before co-starring in Beef, has been called out for his disturbing remarks. After initially receiving backlash for the podcast episode in 2014, he released a statement on DVDASA’s website (that’s no longer active) claiming that the story was actually false.

“If I am guilty of anything, it’s bad storytelling in the style of douche,” he wrote. “Just like many of my paintings are often misinterpreted, the same goes with my show.” He went on to say that the anecdote “was not a representation of [his] reality.”

“I'm sorry if anyone believed that the stories were fact,” he wrote. “They were not!”

In 2017, he wrote another lengthy post on Instagram about the clip, claiming he had “ZERO history of sexual assault.”

In the days since Beef’s release, many Twitter users, in addition to Bogado, have re-discovered the troubling podcast snippet and others—like a conversation where Choe defends Akira hypothetically hooking up with a 13-year-old boy, posted by Brooklyn emcee Nitty Scott. Meanwhile, Canadian restaurateur and author Jen Agg, tweeted that she had known about Choe “being shit for ages.”


Quite glaringly, no one representing the show, including Choe, has responded to the resurfaced incident. Twitter users also noticed that Wong, who’s friends with Choe and plays Amy on Beef, recently locked her Twitter account. (The Daily Beast reached out to representatives for Netflix and A24 for comment.)

Conversation about the controversial artist ramped up again on Sunday when users noticed their tweets of the podcast clip being removed from Twitter. Writer Meecham Whitson Meriweather tweeted that his account was locked after he posted the recording of Choe. Bogado also posted a DMCA notice she received from Twitter Support after they removed her post “on copyright grounds.”

According to the screenshots, the video is owned by the David Young Choe Foundation. Additionally, an audio file of the podcast episode uploaded by writer Melissa Stetten on Google Drive has been removed for violating the site’s terms of service.

Unsurprisingly, these prohibitive measures have only caused a Streisand Effect on social media. Over the past 24 hours, Twitter users, including critics and other verified accounts, have taken Netflix, A24 and others involved with Beef—including Wong and Yeun who are executive producers—to task for hiring Choe despite his past claims. In addition to playing the formerly incarcerated cousin of Yeun’s protagonist Danny on the show, Choe also supplied paintings for the episode's title cards.

While all parties have been slow to respond to the scandal, Choe’s past comments are particularly not a good look for A24. The independent film and television company came under fire just a few weeks ago after Variety reported sexual-misconduct claims against Sebastian Bear-McClard, who co-produced the Safdie Brothers films Good Time and Uncut Gems. A recent Rolling Stone report alleging disturbing details about Sam Levinson’s forthcoming HBO show The Idol, a co-production with A24, have also put the buzzy, Oscar-winning studio in a negative light.

Overall, the controversy surrounding Choe comes as a disappointment, given the overwhelming success of Beef, as a show created by and starring Asian people. However, the silence from the show’s creators has led to an important discussion online about how much we value representation over issues like sexual assault.
The alleged (according to just him) joke that sounded nothing like a joke being copyright striked as an attempt to hide it by him is, uhh, what some experts would generously call "really fucking bad optics" also. And only makes ppl want to share it more.
 

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Not seen the show yet, so got no investment in whoever this guy is. But wow, before reading any news descriptions, was not expecting the clip recording to be worse than the Justin.R's defense of fancying minors. Like, graphically admitting sex crimes, worse.




The alleged (according to just him) joke that sounded nothing like a joke being copyright striked as an attempt to hide it by him is, uhh, what some experts would generously call "really fucking bad optics" also. And only makes ppl want to share it more.
These guys really love having these confessions and hope nobody notices or picks up on it again. Choe just screwed himself over. Somebody's should send in the cops on him right now.