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Because why choose this to be a teaser of her return? She had no romantic relationships in the trilogy and there i no reason to showcase it here. Even if she has a man in the next film, it makes no sense to make this a key teaser as there is no established connection for the audience to speculate about.

And it stinks of dumb plot devices and stupid writing that makes no sense. She gonna have a son named Luke skywalker and it turns out the whole thing is a time loop?
I was thinking Palpatine's midichlorian baby, myself.
 

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Because why choose this to be a teaser of her return?
First, I doubt that's the only teaser, given the nature of the image.

Second, again, what's wrong with that in of itself? YMMV, but I like the idea of Rey having a child. Granted, this is coming from a place of bias given what I've written for Star Wars on FFN, but the reason I like it is that I think you could do a lot with that. One of Rey's key character traits in her first two films is her yearning for a parent's love and dealing with her abandonment. Rise of Skywalker fucks that up of course, but that aside, the idea of Rey being a mother? How would her upbringing factor into that? Can she be a better parent than the ones she got? Can she be a parent if she's rebuilding the Jedi? I have little faith that Disney will actually do much interesting with that, but the potential's there.
 

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Hopefully. I'd still like it if Ada, Sherry, Barry and Carlos showed up. At least have Sherry and Carlos be used more.
Ada I honestly don't care if she ever shows up again in these movies. She's in the second CGI movie it didn't do that much. I'm honestly sick and tired of the "will they or won't they relationship", Capcom kept dragging out in the original continuity. Outside of the second game, and the recent remakes, there's little to no reason to care about Ada.
 

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Second, again, what's wrong with that in of itself? YMMV, but I like the idea of Rey having a child. Granted, this is coming from a place of bias given what I've written for Star Wars on FFN, but the reason I like it is that I think you could do a lot with that. One of Rey's key character traits in her first two films is her yearning for a parent's love and dealing with her abandonment. Rise of Skywalker fucks that up of course, but that aside, the idea of Rey being a mother? How would her upbringing factor into that? Can she be a better parent than the ones she got? Can she be a parent if she's rebuilding the Jedi? I have little faith that Disney will actually do much interesting with that, but the potential's there.
I'm gonna disagree on the point that I don't believe Rey was ever really a character. She is a Mary Sue, instantly good at everything with no conflicts of her own really. All those things you said about her abandonment, her desire to find her parents, are plot points that were teased in the Force Awakens and then basically forgotten, though Last Jedi does try to use it a little bit. But it never goes anywhere and is never a driving point of her character.

So in order to make that matter in the next film we'd need one hell of a bullshit exposition dump for her expressing those desires and feelings for the audience out of nowhere. Not to mention in order to be a mother, and a good one at that, she would have to abandon all her own personal desires of developing as a Jedi. Jedi are supposed to be monks, with no attachments to be used against them. Which is the opposite of what being a Mom would do.

If they do this it would be an incredible disjointed and nonsensical story that would have to unfold with leaps in both logic and character traits to pull it off. Basically it'd be a....Star Wars movie...well damn.
 

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Ada I honestly don't care if she ever shows up again in these movies. She's in the second CGI movie it didn't do that much. I'm honestly sick and tired of the "will they or won't they relationship", Capcom kept dragging out in the original continuity. Outside of the second game, and the recent remakes, there's little to no reason to care about Ada.
I think the writer for Damnation said they might have gone on a date (or done more than that) at some point between RE5 and RE6.
 

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I think the writer for Damnation said they might have gone on a date (or done more than that) at some point between RE5 and RE6.
If it didn't happen on screen, then it doesn't count that's more than likely just to throw away line, because nothing in RE6 indicates that.

Why is Jill the only one with a returning character model?
  1. Laziness.
  2. They didn't want to age the character and made some dumb retcon saying that Weskers experiments made her age slower. Which is bullcrap, because even in re5 before she got captured, she already showed signs of aging. They just didn't want to bother with remaking Jill's RE5, applications to it.
  3. It's really dumb and hypocritical, because Jill ends up looking a lot younger than Claire. Jill's is at least 5 years older than Claire. And funny enough, they had no problem aging Claire or Rebecca for that matter. Hell, in Revelations 2, Claire show clear signs of aging. Why how come all the sudden has a problem now is really dumb, when none of the Western or Japanese fans complained about Claire aging at all.
 

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If it didn't happen on screen, then it doesn't count that's more than likely just to throw away line, because nothing in RE6 indicates that.


  1. Laziness.
  2. They didn't want to age the character and made some dumb retcon saying that Weskers experiments made her age slower. Which is bullcrap, because even in re5 before she got captured, she already showed signs of aging. They just didn't want to bother with remaking Jill's RE5, applications to it.
  3. It's really dumb and hypocritical, because Jill ends up looking a lot younger than Claire. Jill's is at least 5 years older than Claire. And funny enough, they had no problem aging Claire or Rebecca for that matter. Hell, in Revelations 2, Claire show clear signs of aging. Why how come all the sudden has a problem now is really dumb, when none of the Western or Japanese fans complained about Claire aging at all.
The irony is that Jill may be the only character from the first two games who may remain viable for future installments. Chris is going to be harder to justify as anything but a man behind the desk due to his obvious aging. Jill has all but been completely sidelined since RE3 but has more of a reason to be used than most of the original cast.

Then again, Capcom somehow managed to make Lady look younger than Nero in DMC 5 so maybe they just don't care how old a character is supposed to be.
 

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Then again, Capcom somehow managed to make Lady look younger than Nero in DMC 5 so maybe they just don't care how old a character is supposed to be.
Actually, they did age Lady (it's noticeable around her face, but she still looks good for her age). She and Dante are pretty much in their early 40s. The only reason Dante looks older than Lady, is because he hadn't been taken care of himself and he kept running out of money, so his building was almost always shut down. It's part of the reason why Vergil looks younger than dante, despite him being the older twin. Well, Vergil was in demon world for pretty much most of his entire life.
 

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Riget has a 3rd season.
 

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I'm gonna disagree on the point that I don't believe Rey was ever really a character. She is a Mary Sue, instantly good at everything with no conflicts of her own really. All those things you said about her abandonment, her desire to find her parents, are plot points that were teased in the Force Awakens and then basically forgotten, though Last Jedi does try to use it a little bit. But it never goes anywhere and is never a driving point of her character.
I completely disagree.

Okay, not completely - Rey's a Mary Sue in Force Awakens, but this was reduced as an issue in Last Jedi. And it is a driving theme in both films. In the first, we see Rey's yearning for her parents is what's driving her to return to Jakku, even after escaping the world, and makes Han's death hit harder for her since she saw him as a surrogate father. In Last Jedi, her yearning for her parents is what drives her to go under the island, and makes Kylo's revelation hit all the harder when it reinforces that not only is she a nobody, but that she's been in denial all this time. Rise does its best to mess all of that up, but the sins of the sons don't become sins of the fathers in this case.

So in order to make that matter in the next film we'd need one hell of a bullshit exposition dump for her expressing those desires and feelings for the audience out of nowhere. Not to mention in order to be a mother, and a good one at that, she would have to abandon all her own personal desires of developing as a Jedi. Jedi are supposed to be monks, with no attachments to be used against them. Which is the opposite of what being a Mom would do.
We wouldn't need an exposition dump - Rey's parent issues have been laid out at this point. You can even plumb Rise since she's the granddaughter of Palpatine, and the daughter of a strandcast. Even if you needed to get some characterization/info established, you can do it through character interactions. As for the Jedi, you're referring to the old Jedi Order, there's no reason that a new one would have to follow suit (and if it plumbs Legends, it wouldn't). That in of itself is a position of potential drama. I can't say I'm fond of Rey rebuilding the Jedi, in part because Luke's already tried that, in part because there's nothing to suggest that her attempt will be any different from his, but that's the hand that's been played.

Will this happen? No guarantee. Can it happen? Yes. Am I confident? Not really, but nothing's without potential. I mean, Disney's run of Star Wars has been a mixed bag, but as bollocks as the sequel trilogy turned out to be for instance, something like the High Republic is good. Roll of the dice and all that.
 

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I completely disagree.

Okay, not completely - Rey's a Mary Sue in Force Awakens, but this was reduced as an issue in Last Jedi. And it is a driving theme in both films. In the first, we see Rey's yearning for her parents is what's driving her to return to Jakku, even after escaping the world, and makes Han's death hit harder for her since she saw him as a surrogate father. In Last Jedi, her yearning for her parents is what drives her to go under the island, and makes Kylo's revelation hit all the harder when it reinforces that not only is she a nobody, but that she's been in denial all this time. Rise does its best to mess all of that up, but the sins of the sons don't become sins of the fathers in this case.



We wouldn't need an exposition dump - Rey's parent issues have been laid out at this point. You can even plumb Rise since she's the granddaughter of Palpatine, and the daughter of a strandcast. Even if you needed to get some characterization/info established, you can do it through character interactions. As for the Jedi, you're referring to the old Jedi Order, there's no reason that a new one would have to follow suit (and if it plumbs Legends, it wouldn't). That in of itself is a position of potential drama. I can't say I'm fond of Rey rebuilding the Jedi, in part because Luke's already tried that, in part because there's nothing to suggest that her attempt will be any different from his, but that's the hand that's been played.

Will this happen? No guarantee. Can it happen? Yes. Am I confident? Not really, but nothing's without potential. I mean, Disney's run of Star Wars has been a mixed bag, but as bollocks as the sequel trilogy turned out to be for instance, something like the High Republic is good. Roll of the dice and all that.
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