Gentlemen, Is chivalry dead?

[Axzarious]

Its the whole question of is it sexist or is it just good manners.

Its good manners, you should be polite to everyone you meet not just women. Remeber Chivalry was between men aswell and I dont mean holding doors for them it ranged from combat to social interactions.

This. If you are only curteous to females, you are not truly a gentleman. One should treat everybody with respect without favouring another.

 

[Zero_ctrl]

There's a simple rule to chivalry. When you're doing something that would stereotypically be called "Gentlemanly" ask yourself this: "Would I be doing the same if the person in question was a man?"

If the answer is yes, you're fine.
If the answer is no, you're being sexist.

I love and respect woman, however I believe them to be above us lowely men,

In other words, you're a complete and total sexist.

Generally chivalry is between a man (AKA the Gentleman) and a lady.
Chivalry between men is...something else.
I don't quite know the right word for it.

That's precisely the point feminists make.

The issue here is that idea that men should be chivalrous towards women. There's no reason for that distinction.

Rather than just opening doors for women, open them for everyone.

If you do a courteous action only because the person in question is female, and wouldn't do it if they were male, then you're being sexist.

It's not like I hold doors open for just women and punch men in the face.
That's just stupid.
Not all gestures translate the same between genders.
You're using sexist in a completely terrible tone.

It just feels like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
Trolling, even?

 

[Maze1125]

There's a simple rule to chivalry. When you're doing something that would stereotypically be called "Gentlemanly" ask yourself this: "Would I be doing the same if the person in question was a man?"

If the answer is yes, you're fine.
If the answer is no, you're being sexist.

I love and respect woman, however I believe them to be above us lowely men,

In other words, you're a complete and total sexist.

Generally chivalry is between a man (AKA the Gentleman) and a lady.
Chivalry between men is...something else.
I don't quite know the right word for it.

That's precisely the point feminists make.

The issue here is that idea that men should be chivalrous towards women. There's no reason for that distinction.

Rather than just opening doors for women, open them for everyone.

If you do a courteous action only because the person in question is female, and wouldn't do it if they were male, then you're being sexist.

It's not like I hold doors open for just women and punch men in the face.
That's just stupid.
Not all gestures translate the same between genders.
You're using sexist in a completely terrible tone.

It just feels like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
Trolling, even?

How I'm I trolling?

All I'm saying is that if you treat women differently to men, purely on the basis of them being women, that's sexist.

And, further, if you consider chivalry to be the act of being specifically courteous to women, then that act of chivalry is sexist. As a direct consequence of the previous point.

 

[Myster XIII]

Hey duct tape on certain parts, inflatable shirt...I think I could pull off an angry bull dyke.

 

[Legendary Alucard]

NO...

 

[Maze1125]

There's a simple rule to chivalry. When you're doing something that would stereotypically be called "Gentlemanly" ask yourself this: "Would I be doing the same if the person in question was a man?"

If the answer is yes, you're fine.
If the answer is no, you're being sexist.

I love and respect woman, however I believe them to be above us lowely men,

In other words, you're a complete and total sexist.

This is... True. However, if you are basically raised by two older sisters and your mum, well, you end up with unbalanced views.

And however sexist this sounds I just find males more capable to deal with the shit females give them. However I see males handing out a lot more shit, the nature of society calls for sexist males weighted in the direction I am, I mean, think about it. A dude who sleeps with as many chicks as he can? A lad. A chick who sleeps with as many dudes as she can? A slut/whore/*insert derogatory remark here*. I aint saying all females are really weak and need strong protective men, far from it.

I treat all females like I would treat one of my sisters. You know the phrase "Innocent until proven guilty"? In my mind it applies for females. Guys are Guilty until proven Innocent, simply because most of the men on this planet have proved that they are dicks. Plain and simple.

That is precisely the attitude people used to have, in reverse, back before the women's rights movements.

It was sick then, and it's sick now.

There is never a justification for judging an entire group based upon the actions of some, especially as badly as you're doing.

There 3.5 billion male humans on this planet. I bet you haven't even spoken to 0.0001% of them. Yet you're willing to judge them all based on that minute fraction. It's sick.

 

[spartan1077]

Chilvary is dying. Not dead yet but dying. But it also sees what is your viewpoint on chilvary. How chilverous do you need to be to show chivalry? Is just holding a door open chilvarous or do you have to lay down in mud for her to walk over?

EDIT: Treating women diffrent from men is exactly sexist, it's instinct.

 

[Maze1125]

why would I assume that anyone else is different?

Why assume anything at all. Why not give everyone an equal chance and not just judge people based upon the actions that others, who just happen to have the same genitalia, commit?

Yes, it is natural to be prejudiced, it's an effective evolutionary trait.
That doesn't make it right. Or just. Or even reasonable.

If being sexist makes me treat women properly and men in the way that they deserve for the way they treat women, well, then I am proud to be sexist.

And that, again, is exactly what men of the past said about women.
That's is how they many of them justified beating women and refusing them rights.
You are precisely the sort of person you claim you hate.