Octorok said:
Jesus Christ guys... I do see the funny side, but this isn't some fantacial politician or a crazy homeless guy. These are the families of a tragic event who were misguided by an incredibly biased media and government, who genuinely think that the youth of today is up to no good. Really? I mean... really? The German youth of today are the direct descendants of the German youth of yesterday, and we all know what the German youth got up to in their spare time and favourite uniforms.
Sorry but you are wrong, this isn't some kind of spontanous knee-jerk reaction by a group of people in grief. It's an organized group of people who had months to grief by now.
It's not some "fanatical politican" but it's an "fanatical" parent who lost his child. The head guy of these people Hardy Schober has lost his child too in the school shooting. He created this group and closed down his old company (that didn't go too well anyway) and now plans to live off the money the group gets trough donations. A few other parents of killed children allready left this group because they don't approve how he handles the situation.
And as a german 26 year old i'm not gonna comment on your "oh they where once nazis you know? they must be bad somehow" part... That's like saying all americans are evil because they killed most of the native residents of their country "a few generations ago".
I feel for the hosts. It's not their fault they were told about violent games (read not any other form of media or stimulation including the fucking killer going to a gun range and owning lots of guns ) by a scapegoating media who have taken an outrageous step into ludicrousness ever since they started calling these violent games "killer" games, as if the games themselves creep out at night and strangle adorable homeless orphans.
While the media plays it's role too, they can't claim to "not know it better". We (as in "the german gamers) tried a rational discussion with these people serveral times. But most of the time we get just ignored or if they answer they didn't read/listen/understand what we told them.
Even at said event gamers talked to these people, email adresses where exchanged in hopes to get a discussion going. Hardy Schober even claimed at the end (when it had been pretty clear that the whole event failed) that they knew from the beginning that not many people would throw their games in. They just wanted to start a "dialog" with the gamers trough this event... that's what they claimed...
The situation now, a few months later? Nothing, they still don't answer emails, they still go around telling people the same lies, they still want a total ban on any games that include violence against humans or human-like enemies.
So please don't try to make it look like they don't know it better because nobody told them. Enough people tried to tell them, often enough they said they want an dialog and often enough this dialog ended one-sided because they didn't listen/answer to the gamers.
At this point i think Hardy Schober is only in it for the money, but to get many donations he needs publicity and you get the most publicity by saying stupid stuff to many people...
