Get a First Look at Far Cry 5 and a Release Date in this New Trailer

Darth_Payn

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Why is there a Resistance at all? Isn't a cult with more guns that common sense the kind of thing the FBI or ATF respond to?
 

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animeprime said:
I'm not angry Ubisoft, I'm just disappointed you're using such lazy and outdated stereotypes. Farcry has always been set in "dangerous and exotic lands" but even in Montana civilization has complete control. The American militia movement is a joke and their greatest success was occupying a park ranger station for a few weeks. It also may come as a shock, but Christians REALLY look down on violence and the only serious examples of it were based on stopping abortion, not gaining new followers or saving people against their will. They know the best way to enforce their morals and agenda is not with force but at the ballot box, which surprise, requires a functional government that everyone participates in.
Not really there has been many examples of Christianity being violet and violet anti abortion protests(also abortion doctors getting death threats)
 

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DaCosta said:
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Saelune said:
They should have a mission where you have to protect journalists from political leaders
You might have to settle for body slamming Jesse Ventura in WWE 2K99!
Preorder now to get a gamble box that might have Jon Stewart!

EDIT
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Implied references are about Gianforte who just won an election in Montana.
WHAT?!

How does a man assault a reporter for doing his job and still get elected?
How does a sexual assaulter who mocks US military veterans, collude with Russians, and BE the epitome of "evil big business" but still get the "anti-corporate" title and get LESS VOTES but become fucking President!?
 

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Saelune said:
DaCosta said:
Jacked Assassin said:
Saelune said:
They should have a mission where you have to protect journalists from political leaders
You might have to settle for body slamming Jesse Ventura in WWE 2K99!
Preorder now to get a gamble box that might have Jon Stewart!

EDIT
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Implied references are about Gianforte who just won an election in Montana.
WHAT?!

How does a man assault a reporter for doing his job and still get elected?
How does a sexual assaulter who mocks US military veterans, collude with Russians, and BE the epitome of "evil big business" but still get the "anti-corporate" title and get LESS VOTES but become fucking President!?
A wide variety of hypotheticals revolving around
- How Cable TV deals with news.
- How a born American can become president without working at a state elected office.
- Money becoming more important than Americans.

But to keep rhetorical questions going....
How can Cable TV show polls that Bernie can defeat Trump, Hillary tied with Trump, Keep pushing that these polls will change to suit Hillary Supporters, & not get mocked for their own version of "alternative facts"?
Or
How can all the blame be put onto Bernie Or Bust if it simply comes down to the idea that Swing States just didn't trust Hillary?
Or
If it honestly did come down to Bernie Or Bust then how come Hillary Supporters can't accept that about half the democratic party was only going to vote if they sided with Bernie Supporters?

After all if Hillary Supporters were going to vote Democratic no matter what. And still thought it was a great idea to go against Bernie Or Bust. Then it just proves half the democratic party doesn't care for the needs of the other half.

And before I get blamed for being a Bernie Bro I voted for Zephyr Teachout. And had Elizabeth Warren ran I would've chose her over Bernie. Because I am willing to vote for women when they represent progressives instead of Citizens United.
Arnoxthe1 said:
Jacked Assassin said:
I'm now expecting Far Cry 5 to be about Good Christians versus Bad Christians.
I could get behind that.
There's not enough difference for me to get excited. If anything it makes me want peacefully stop the violence. Even if my Player Character gets crucified for it.
 

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"But the stereotypes!"

Guys, c'mon now. What're to old excuses for bad representation in video games? It's just a game, get thicker skin, my Christian Montanan friend says it's okay (me, btw), etc.

Maybe, if some folks start talking about the representation of different races, sexes, and religions in video games in the future, you remember this moment.
 

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LysanderNemoinis said:
The game's antagonists are fanatical violent cult whose recruitment method is convert or die and they kill anyone who isn't them? That's funny...they don't look islamic.
Nor are they shouting "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"
 

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Jacked Assassin said:
If anything it makes me want peacefully stop the violence. Even if my Player Character gets crucified for it.
If they're just after you, that's different. But if they're after your family and your friends, you should at least try to defend them.
 

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Jacked Assassin said:
I'm now expecting Far Cry 5 to be about Good Christians versus Bad Christians.
We did that in the UK. Northern Ireland was a blood bath.
 

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animeprime said:
I'm not angry Ubisoft, I'm just disappointed you're using such lazy and outdated stereotypes. Farcry has always been set in "dangerous and exotic lands" but even in Montana civilization has complete control. The American militia movement is a joke and their greatest success was occupying a park ranger station for a few weeks. It also may come as a shock, but Christians REALLY look down on violence and the only serious examples of it were based on stopping abortion, not gaining new followers or saving people against their will. They know the best way to enforce their morals and agenda is not with force but at the ballot box, which surprise, requires a functional government that everyone participates in.

I'm also curious to see how this is going to impact the game mechanics without a total suspension of disbelief. Is this game taking place in the past before cell phones, or has the American government collapsed? Because within twenty four hours of the first shot being fired the feds will know and fill these guys with sniper bullets. Are they holding the whole town hostage and you need to rescue them? That would work for other tactical shooter games but doesn't really feel like a farcry game where you're one guy isolated and on his own.

I really don't have a problem with them picking America and some of our darker elements as a target. Bioshock Infinete did a pretty good job exploring American racism and "Exceptionalism". But I find a giant flying city powered by patriotism more belivible than this "realistic" setting.
There have been lots of christian groups that quite enjoyed violence. Waco Twxas didnt end well. Look at the break down of Yugoslavia. The christians were trying their hardest to kill all of their ethnic muslim brethren. You could also try Northen Ireland. I can think of few things scarier than being in dublin in the 80s when a group of men ask you if youre catholic or protestant. You dont know which is the right answer but the wrong answrr could end very badly.

Neither was fond of the ballot box and sending the army in didnt work either. Im sure there are plenty more examples as people are dicks, but thats 3 off the top of my head.
 

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Darth_Payn said:
Why is there a Resistance at all? Isn't a cult with more guns that common sense the kind of thing the FBI or ATF respond to?
The premise seems to be that you are playing right around the time the cult locks the area down and traps people inside, ATF and FBI would be the response in cases where they were part of an investigation, in this case they would be so heavily armed it would be more likely that if the FBI or ATF was aware of their existence they would call in the National Guard. In the game it seems that they have infiltrated cult members into the county's structure, so the FBI is not aware of their plans by the time they decide to stage their takeover.

animeprime said:
I'm also curious to see how this is going to impact the game mechanics without a total suspension of disbelief. Is this game taking place in the past before cell phones, or has the American government collapsed? Because within twenty four hours of the first shot being fired the feds will know and fill these guys with sniper bullets. Are they holding the whole town hostage and you need to rescue them? That would work for other tactical shooter games but doesn't really feel like a farcry game where you're one guy isolated and on his own.
How will the feds know if they've cut off communication, it's too early to tell if there isn't something else going on, but for a really rural isolated area, there is no cell access, period, for some of the rural towns I've been to, I have to bring a satellite phone if I want a connection, and there is only one landline out, so you cut that and everyone in the area basically isn't alerting the federal government of jack shit, with or without a murderous militia. I've been in places that have had outside communications cut for more than 24 hours just by bad weather, the US does not have 100% cell service coverage, and many towns in Montana are extremely isolated.

This also ignores that most of the Farcry games would not work if we applied your logic to them. We sent US Navy destroyers to escort ships after only a couple of ships got hijacked by a bunch of pirates in small motorboats, there is no way in fuck a real life group with someone like Vaas in Farcry 3 could exist without bringing serious anti-piracy forces down on them, nevermind the bullshit with the private militia controlling the southern island, the UN would be all over that within months. Farcry 4 is just as far fetched, there is no way in fuck China or India would allow a pissant little civil war like that right on their borders, especially with all the heavy military hardware that Pagan Min was throwing around, they basically had to insert a CIA conspiracy and an arms dealer with magical supply lines to justify the kind of military weight Kyrat was throwing around. Farcry 1 had magical murder monsters, so that leaves Farcry 2 as pretty much the only entry with sort of realistic geopolitical considerations.
 

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animeprime said:
I'm not angry Ubisoft, I'm just disappointed you're using such lazy and outdated stereotypes. Farcry has always been set in "dangerous and exotic lands" but even in Montana civilization has complete control. The American militia movement is a joke and their greatest success was occupying a park ranger station for a few weeks. It also may come as a shock, but Christians REALLY look down on violence and the only serious examples of it were based on stopping abortion, not gaining new followers or saving people against their will. They know the best way to enforce their morals and agenda is not with force but at the ballot box, which surprise, requires a functional government that everyone participates in.

I'm also curious to see how this is going to impact the game mechanics without a total suspension of disbelief. Is this game taking place in the past before cell phones, or has the American government collapsed? Because within twenty four hours of the first shot being fired the feds will know and fill these guys with sniper bullets. Are they holding the whole town hostage and you need to rescue them? That would work for other tactical shooter games but doesn't really feel like a farcry game where you're one guy isolated and on his own.

I really don't have a problem with them picking America and some of our darker elements as a target. Bioshock Infinete did a pretty good job exploring American racism and "Exceptionalism". But I find a giant flying city powered by patriotism more belivible than this "realistic" setting.
Outdated? Errr...
 

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LysanderNemoinis said:
The game's antagonists are fanatical violent cult whose recruitment method is convert or die and they kill anyone who isn't them? That's funny...they don't look islamic.
Yeah you'd almost think *gasp* other people can be quite monstrous as well! So now we have a game filled with people like this. [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-muslims-portland-idUSKBN18N080]
 

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Zhukov said:
Damn it, the baddies aren't wearing red hats.

Such an opportunity wasted. You disappoint me Ubisoft.

There's a bunch of other trailers for anyone who's interested. They're nothing special though.

red hats? im missing something here
 

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EternallyBored said:
Darth_Payn said:
Why is there a Resistance at all? Isn't a cult with more guns that common sense the kind of thing the FBI or ATF respond to?
The premise seems to be that you are playing right around the time the cult locks the area down and traps people inside, ATF and FBI would be the response in cases where they were part of an investigation, in this case they would be so heavily armed it would be more likely that if the FBI or ATF was aware of their existence they would call in the National Guard. In the game it seems that they have infiltrated cult members into the county's structure, so the FBI is not aware of their plans by the time they decide to stage their takeover.

animeprime said:
I'm also curious to see how this is going to impact the game mechanics without a total suspension of disbelief. Is this game taking place in the past before cell phones, or has the American government collapsed? Because within twenty four hours of the first shot being fired the feds will know and fill these guys with sniper bullets. Are they holding the whole town hostage and you need to rescue them? That would work for other tactical shooter games but doesn't really feel like a farcry game where you're one guy isolated and on his own.
How will the feds know if they've cut off communication, it's too early to tell if there isn't something else going on, but for a really rural isolated area, there is no cell access, period, for some of the rural towns I've been to, I have to bring a satellite phone if I want a connection, and there is only one landline out, so you cut that and everyone in the area basically isn't alerting the federal government of jack shit, with or without a murderous militia. I've been in places that have had outside communications cut for more than 24 hours just by bad weather, the US does not have 100% cell service coverage, and many towns in Montana are extremely isolated.

This also ignores that most of the Farcry games would not work if we applied your logic to them. We sent US Navy destroyers to escort ships after only a couple of ships got hijacked by a bunch of pirates in small motorboats, there is no way in fuck a real life group with someone like Vaas in Farcry 3 could exist without bringing serious anti-piracy forces down on them, nevermind the bullshit with the private militia controlling the southern island, the UN would be all over that within months. Farcry 4 is just as far fetched, there is no way in fuck China or India would allow a pissant little civil war like that right on their borders, especially with all the heavy military hardware that Pagan Min was throwing around, they basically had to insert a CIA conspiracy and an arms dealer with magical supply lines to justify the kind of military weight Kyrat was throwing around. Farcry 1 had magical murder monsters, so that leaves Farcry 2 as pretty much the only entry with sort of realistic geopolitical considerations.
not to mention you can get mobile phone jammers, etc.. so theoretically it might be possible to completely isolate an area at least for a while
 

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pookie101 said:
Zhukov said:
Damn it, the baddies aren't wearing red hats.

Such an opportunity wasted. You disappoint me Ubisoft.

There's a bunch of other trailers for anyone who's interested. They're nothing special though.

red hats? im missing something here


FC3 and FC4 used red clothing to signify enemies, including red headgear. So doing the same thing in FC5 would have just been continuing a series convention and absolutely nothing else whatsoever.

A golden opportunity, and they let it slide right on by.
 

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ah much appreciated :)
Zhukov said:
pookie101 said:
Zhukov said:
Damn it, the baddies aren't wearing red hats.

Such an opportunity wasted. You disappoint me Ubisoft.

There's a bunch of other trailers for anyone who's interested. They're nothing special though.

red hats? im missing something here


FC3 and FC4 used red clothing to signify enemies, including red headgear. So doing the same thing in FC5 would have just been continuing a series convention and absolutely nothing else whatsoever.

A golden opportunity, and they let it slide right on by.
haha a much appreciated explanation thanks
 

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pookie101 said:
not to mention you can get mobile phone jammers, etc.. so theoretically it might be possible to completely isolate an area at least for a while
In rural Montana? Cut the landline that feeds into the school and maybe dynamite a cell tower and you've got instant isolation.

Besides, nothing here says this cult is long lasting. The Montana Freemen standoff was 81 days. Plenty of time for a FarCry game to establish itself and play out to conclusion.