Mikeybb said:
Rageaholism, a tendency to get ridiculously excited over advertisements of things we like, a collection of tat that the most committed hoarder would consider trash and the important, life saving skill of being able to tell the difference between wars and treks of the various types?
Okay, followup question: what's worth defending about geek culture?
Because that sounds pretty awful.
RaikuFA said:
2nd I hate to admit it but nerd culture needs to tune it down big time. I remember back in 2011-2012 I was getting harassed for... not liking what others liked. Whether it be JRPGs, manga or Nintendo I would get hate mail nearly every day for it. Even my friends growing up were like that. Just trying to play a fighter or a MOBA got me death threats for being new. There are times where I wish the community would die off or get a huge shift because despite it supposed to be "those people who accept the rejects" I have yet to see it or experience it.
Then why is Paul Feig at fault for kicking the proverbial hornet's nest? Everyone was riled up already.
I mean, I don't really get the antipathy anyway. I adore the original Ghostbusters, and really wish Murray hadn't held up the third movie so long that Ramis died. TBH, i'd rather see a Ghostbusters 3, even without Ramis, than this movie. But like I said with the Star wars Prequels and Transformers and Spider-Man and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, it's not a huge deal if they don't appeal to me. These franchises aren't "ruined," and Ghostbusters won't be, either. Hell, I recently started reading the Ghostbusters IDW comics and they're awesome. TMNT on Nick is better than the 80s show. I still have Spectacular Spider-Man and decades of comic books.
I don't get the fanboyism on this scale. There are people I actually like who I don't talk to anymore because you get to a certain topic and they will react to things like you just told them you were going to kill their family in front of them. There's liking something, and there's demanding I talk about Dark Souls. There's enjoying Nintendo, and there's calling me stupid for not liking certain practices. There's preferring PC gaming, and then there's the dick-waving competition.
And there's not liking a movie, and then there's actively campaigning against it or obsessively attacking it.
And then there's double standards.
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
IIRC at least the initial fires that were set weren't focused on it being a full female team but rather the way it was marketed on that merit before any film or images were released.
Well, except it hadn't been marketed at that point. It had been announced, and immediately there were claims of forced politics and how women are unfunny as a whole (I resent that. I am only partially unfunny). When the first shot of the actresses came out, there was an outcry because they weren't smiling, which is surely a sign they weren't having fun and this movie was going to suck. Which is weird, because you probably don't remember Ramis/Murray/Aykroid/Hudson cracking smiles in the movie, either.
People were already dead set on this being a failure. I mean, you can #notallcritics if you want to, but that's not the point. There is an overwhelmingly disproportionate response to this movie, and I think you intuit that from what you've said just as much as I do.
Put it this way: Pixels' first trailer is sitting at roughly an 86% like rating on YouTube. Even the second trailer had an 80% approval rating. And honestly, the only good thing about that one was the presence of Freddie Mercury. This is a movie so offensively bad a lot of people who hate MovieBob were passing along his review/tirade and praising the vitriol he gave it. Do you seriously think this response is even remotely proportionate? That this trailer was so horrible that the response to it being orders of magnitude greater than that to freaking Pixels, is merited? No, let's go one step further: this trailer was disliked more than every movie I've mentioned in this thread. Combined. The closest we come is BVS, with roughly a combined 30,000 dislikes, when compared to over 750,000 dislikes.
Who do you honestly think are the bulk of the critics? Especially the ones still talking about it?
Saelune said:
Yeah, just like those of us who wanted an accurate Human Torch are racists, right?
Trying to argue that you want accuracy in a FF movie but focusing on Human Torch doesn't really make a positive case. Those movies were accurate like Doctor Who is hard science.