Ghostbusters reviews are...positive!

[Redd the Sock]

I repeat what I said in he locked thread: this movie is too politicized to take reviews seriously (especially from any reviewer that has mocked the idea of objectivity). Some went in to hate it. Some are so desperate to like it because feminism they'll be more forgiving of things they'd pulverize a Seth Rogan or Adam Sandler flick for, and some no doubt are just trying to avoid what happened to James Rolfe. I don't trust reviews for comedies under the best of circumstances as humor is so personal and subjective, and these are far from the best of circumstances.

I get both sides are anxious to gloat, but I'm waiting for second week results. While I'd certainly laugh at the karma if the "hostile to critics and older fans" marketing made this lose out to Finding Droy a month later, I don't expect it to. Now I'm more interested in how this will hold up once the political / fuck you watches are out and it's a question of "will this movie make me laugh again when I know all the jokes.

 

[maninahat]

I repeat what I said in he locked thread: this movie is too politicized to take reviews seriously (especially from any reviewer that has mocked the idea of objectivity). Some went in to hate it. Some are so desperate to like it because feminism they'll be more forgiving of things they'd pulverize a Seth Rogan or Adam Sandler flick for, and some no doubt are just trying to avoid what happened to James Rolfe. I don't trust reviews for comedies under the best of circumstances as humor is so personal and subjective, and these are far from the best of circumstances.

I get both sides are anxious to gloat, but I'm waiting for second week results. While I'd certainly laugh at the karma if the "hostile to critics and older fans" marketing made this lose out to Finding Droy a month later, I don't expect it to. Now I'm more interested in how this will hold up once the political / fuck you watches are out and it's a question of "will this movie make me laugh again when I know all the jokes.

Have you considered the idea that professional critics from (mostly) print journalism aren't all that invested in the debate, and more interested in honestly saying whether they like a movie about shooting ghosts with lasers?

 

[maninahat]

[SNIP]

I agree, the binary set up tend to hides the range of responses to movies. However I was careful enough to say critics "liked" it, not that it was a solid 7/10 movie. I think that it is funny that a lot of people can't even swallow that small a pill.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I think that it is funny that a lot of people can't even swallow that small a pill.

Is it though? Is it funny?

Generally I find the fact that otherwise intelligent people get married to their preconceptions to be abundantly sad.

 

[Diablo2000]

So... It's ok?
Fair enough, somehow I got the odd feeling that if the trailer wasn't the wreck it was people everyone would be "It's out, and it's ok" only to be forgotten a week later like the Robocop remake. (Remember that was a thing?)
So in some bizarre way the bad publicity actually helped the film.

Still not gonna watch though, I didn't really liked Bridesmaid or the type humor it was going for and I still think that Ghostbusters 2016 is that with Ghostbusting in it.

 

[Redd the Sock]

I repeat what I said in he locked thread: this movie is too politicized to take reviews seriously (especially from any reviewer that has mocked the idea of objectivity). Some went in to hate it. Some are so desperate to like it because feminism they'll be more forgiving of things they'd pulverize a Seth Rogan or Adam Sandler flick for, and some no doubt are just trying to avoid what happened to James Rolfe. I don't trust reviews for comedies under the best of circumstances as humor is so personal and subjective, and these are far from the best of circumstances.

I get both sides are anxious to gloat, but I'm waiting for second week results. While I'd certainly laugh at the karma if the "hostile to critics and older fans" marketing made this lose out to Finding Droy a month later, I don't expect it to. Now I'm more interested in how this will hold up once the political / fuck you watches are out and it's a question of "will this movie make me laugh again when I know all the jokes.

Have you considered the idea that professional critics from (mostly) print journalism aren't all that invested in the debate, and more interested in honestly saying whether they like a movie about shooting ghosts with lasers?

I entertain the possibility, I just have doubts there are that many in the mix if for no other reason than my firm belief that without the controversy we have, we'd be having the normal fight of how we liked the "fun popcorn flick" the critics panned because "fun popcorn flick".

 

[Ihateregistering1]

I'm not sure why it's particularly surprising: the MO of basically all reboots over the past decade seems to be 'it's ok, but you'll forget about it a day later', which seems to be the general consensus of the reviews.

Total Recall, RoboCop, the Hitcher, Hills have Eyes, the myriad of horror movie reboots, etc. have all been 'it's all right, but not at all memorable' (well ok, Point Break was awful).

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Well one thing this has done is that it has notified me that there is a button on Rottentomatoes to filter the reviews to their "top critics". I started going through a few recent big name movies and something that I noticed is that when a movie is good, the 2 sets of reviewers are in sync (usually within 1%). When a movie is bad, the top critics rate it ~10-15 percent lower. Ghost Busters, as it turns out, drops from 79% down to 53% when you filter.

 

[Something Amyss]

See, I don't think the reviews validate it as a good movie, anymore than I thought it was legit that people took two reviews and went See? See?

I'm still going to wait and see it on home video or digital down the line.

I don't think there was any honest debate over whether or not this was going to be an excellent or terrible movie. I think the only question in most people's minds was whether or not it'd be fun and enjoyable.

In the other, locked thread, I got a bit snarky about being right that it was a soulless failure. I'll take this chance to apologize for being wrong, and not doing my part to double check the sources provided in the thread.

God, if you can't trust the opinions of people on the internet with an ax to grind, who can you trust?

KiA is absolute foaming at the mouth over it, and exploring all of the angles from cultural collapse under SJW jackboots, to outright conspiracies. Apparently missing from the discourse is the idea that it's just another 'Okay' comedy, which of course means that KiA is now filled with a comedy all its own.

That's ridiculous. We don't wear jackboots. They're not ergonomic!

 

[KaraFang]

The issue I have is that you look at the % score on rotten tomatoes and then you actually READ the reviews. So far there have been paragraphs and comments in them that usually relate to a 40/50 % movie. I'm serious, look at all the "it does have major flaws" comments in the reviews giving it 80's... how is that happening? (sighs) - I really do hope that it hasn't all been "look, give it 70 or 80 and say its good, write what you actually think in buried paragraphs... nobody reads that, well the groups who we don't wanna offend, they'll only look at the score."

PS - Metacritic is currently running at 63% and neither site has any reviews from the public yet.

Sooo... still not going to see it, unless it gets RAVE reviews from two reviewers I trust (and have not reviewed it yet). But I would say a movie, based on a previously immensely popular universe, with a large budget thrown at it, should have done WAY better than it has on reviews. This does NOT bode well and smacks of "support the girls and their metrosexual director."

 

[DefunctTheory]

In the other, locked thread, I got a bit snarky about being right that it was a soulless failure. I'll take this chance to apologize for being wrong, and not doing my part to double check the sources provided in the thread.

God, if you can't trust the opinions of people on the internet with an ax to grind, who can you trust?

An odd comment, considering I was, just 3 minutes ago, talking to my Dad about literally grinding an axe (He picked up a rusty but apparently uncommon debarking axe, and he's quite proud of his work on fixing it).

Should I be afraid? Are you stalking me?

 

[Something Amyss]

An odd comment, considering I was, just 3 minutes ago, talking to my Dad about literally grinding an axe (He picked up a rusty but apparently uncommon debarking axe, and he's quite proud of his work on fixing it).

Should I be afraid? Are you stalking me?

What? No! How absurd a comment! I can't believe you would say that!

...by the way, you've got something in your teeth. It's been bothering me all morning.

 

[Igor-Rowan]

The original had 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, people were certain that anything this movie tried would be a step backwards, especially with everything indicating it, but at the very least it holds a candle to the original. And I'm not gonna lie, the CGI is terrible and the trailers are beyond horrific, but I just learned that this particular director has a history with bad trailers for good movies (Bridesmaids come to mind) and that gadget in the trailer they had that allowed one them to punch a ghost... I saw potential in that.

I still have to see it to talk more about it, but simply knowing that's not gonna be a Alvin and the Chipminks-style soulless reboot pandering to what they think people nowadays are into is already a relief. Also, is it a reboot or a remake, with a title like this I honestly can't tell

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

I'll have to see it to believe it. But I probably won't see it so I'll go on not caring either way.

 

[Roboshi]

After the review embargo and the general attitude of those involved in it's production I doubt I'd see it either way. honestly I'd say you should wait for the dust to settle as a lot of the best reviews are those with a financial interest in the project.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I still have no interest in seeing it. I mean theres very few movies this year that'll actually get me into the theater and a stupid ghost comedy isn't it.

Suicide Squad or bust yo.

I think the people worshipping Ghostbusters like it's some sort of sacred cow are.... I mean i watched the original. It's okay, that's about the best I can say about it. I watched it once, have no urge to see it again.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

So I was just at IMDB and the reviews are abysmal. Like 3.6 bad.

 

[Chris Mosher]

So I was just at IMDB and the reviews are abysmal. Like 3.6 nad .

In all fairness the one thing i have less faith then RT scores are IMDB scores. When i was there at lunch there was at least one thread encouraging people to vote 1 whether the user had seen the movie or not.

 

[Callate]

...And, again, I'm still waiting until more reviews come out before making an assessment; one day hasn't changed much, and given the amount of noise surrounding the thing, I'm not even entirely sure I'll ever be able to get a solid and trust-worthy summary judgment on the thing.

RT has gone up a point since I last looked; Metacritic has gone down a point. By and large, the people who like it don't love it, and the people who dislike it don't hate it. It's a steady 2-3.5 out of 5 by most critics' scales.

I will probably see it, but at this point, I'm waiting for a second-run showing.

 

[Lacedaemonius]

It reads like a classic "Meh", which is (lets be honest) what any of us would expect from a PG-13 summer blockbuster comedy.

Never mind one that's a reboot of an 80's franchise.