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Guys, he just hates women (and probably everyone else that isn't a straight white man); you're asking too much of the poor soul to have him listen to reason.
 
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Could have gone straight to the "It's a video game" defense rather arguing about the historical accuracy and then conceding that point, a defense that's thin because of how much they did want it to be authentic.
Uhrm, what concession? You initially argued such people didn't exist. That's still categorically historically wrong.

Now you're arguing that the actions of the protag aren't typical of such a person, which is a different argument. That's true but irrelevant. To that the appropriate response is, "obviously, so what".

Like story-driven video games don't try to justify their protagonists being killing machines.
Some do. Many don't. For sure, nobody would be dense enough to argue that its inaccurate because it wouldn't be typical of an ordinary person, or because "strangers would disapprove" (lol).
 
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Women like the protagonist didn't exist or are not documented to have existed. I'm not going to explain it because your last post made it apparent that you're not reading.
 

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Women like the protagonist didn't exist or are not documented to have existed. I'm not going to explain it because your last post made it apparent that you're not reading.
We all read it. We just don't give a shit about your goalposting bullshit excuses and shallow and insecure reasons.
 
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Women like the protagonist didn't exist or are not documented to have existed. I'm not going to explain it because your last post made it apparent that you're not reading.
Women "like the protagonist" in what sense?

Women who wielded those weapons, wore armour, had martial training and fought, did exist.

Women who did what the protagonist does did not exist, in the same way that men like Jin Sakai did not exist.

I'm reading fine. Your gripe is just nonsense, that's all.
 

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Women like the protagonist didn't exist or are not documented to have existed. I'm not going to explain it because your last post made it apparent that you're not reading.
Female fighters, even mercenaries (not samurai) in Japan did exist. We know pretty little about them. But we do know that they generally fought pretty much like their male counterparts. Which shouldn't be surprising because they pretty much shared the same reasons to choose that particular style.
They were generally not assassins trying to blend in as demure common women. While those also might have existed, it is a completely different group and one we have even less evidence of. Basically for those it boils down to one mention in one 17th century ninja handbook which might have just referred to female spies, not professional assassins.
 
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And we're all still fighting back, and I am never giving up.
That's funny, because that's how those of us whom you choose to other because we aren't far left on every issue feel, including (since you wanna keep bringing it up) when you try to shame us with your empty and therefore reprehensible position on transitioning kids or for seeing the reality of the sexes. Certainly we have to be more secretive in order to live and eat than you, so what are you pretending to be an underdog for?
 

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Female fighters, even mercenaries (not samurai) in Japan did exist. We know pretty little about them. But we do know that they generally fought pretty much like their male counterparts. Which shouldn't be surprising because they pretty much shared the same reasons to choose that particular style.
They were generally not assassins trying to blend in as demure common women. While those also might have existed, it is a completely different group and one we have even less evidence of. Basically for those it boils down to one mention in one 17th century ninja handbook which might have just referred to female spies, not professional assassins.
Knowing human nature, I'm sure that none of them mocked the social code and asked for unnecessary fights in the way the protagonist does. They would have known their limitations. That character written with authenticity would be interesting.
 

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Knowing human nature, I'm sure that none of them mocked the social code and asked for unnecessary fights in the way the protagonist does. They would have known their limitations. That character written with authenticity would be interesting.
And I'm sure no real Samurai acted as Jin Sakai does, flitting between dishonourable insurgent-style subterfuge, 1-vs-50 archery shootouts, random grandstanding road duels and conquering entire camps alone. He seeks unnecessary fights! He doesn't know the limitations of a lone warrior!

Whining that a protagonist in an action thriller is not acting as a typical individual of their class would act is absurd.

Certainly we have to be more secretive in order to live and eat than you, so what are you pretending to be an underdog for?
Oh yes, you're a persecuted underclass because you don't like trans people.

Give me a break.
 

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Knowing human nature, I'm sure that none of them mocked the social code and asked for unnecessary fights in the way the protagonist does. They would have known their limitations. That character written with authenticity would be interesting.
Where exactly is she "mocking the social code" in a way implausible for a female mercenary fighter ?
 

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Oh yes, you're a persecuted underclass because you don't like trans people.

Give me a break.
That's the problem with the ultra far right and the grifters: they always want to play victim, yet persecute and hurt each other by projecting their flaws on to different people, minding their own business and not hurting anyone at all.

@Ezekiel, you're just another man hurting others because of your insecurities and wants to be special for it. You are just another bully who never grew out of high school or any type of school at all. Hence why you'll always be miserable, and never be happy. You keep feeding into that cycle.Yay you're always the victim and never the aggressor. How sad for poor old Zekey. Let's have a nice and pathetic life.
 
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That's the problem with the ultra far right and the grifters: they always want to play victim, yet persecute and hurt each other by projecting their flaws on to different people, minding their own business and not hurting anyone at all.

@Ezekiel, you're just another man hurting others because of your insecurities and wants to be special for it. You are just another bully who never grew me out of high school or any tpe of school at all. Hence why you'll always be miserable, and never be happy. You keep feeding into that cycle.Yay you're always the victim and never the aggressor. How sad for poor old Zekey. Let's have a nice and pathetic life.
You were the one just playing the victim.

I don't bully, and there is evil in your "progressive" values, because it makes you ignore the factors that harm. It's clear that you don't even seriously think about your views from how you speak about them and fail to understand or ignore what I have told you. That's the worst part.
 

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As long as it's done well, then I have no issue with this. Like last time you got this sucker punch!