Girl Gamer's Opinion
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true but since when is the main character in a game an ugly/uncool looking guy? doesn't happen except to evil characters in games.
why would you want to constantly be looking at something thats average? besides its just a method of appealing to the target audience - mainly males teen-adult
sure its kinda unfair but it draws more eyes with a hot female main character. but then again not all girls who play care about that ive even heard some calling the other team bitches in a shy kind of voice, its hilarious
why would you want to constantly be looking at something thats average? besides its just a method of appealing to the target audience - mainly males teen-adult
sure its kinda unfair but it draws more eyes with a hot female main character. but then again not all girls who play care about that ive even heard some calling the other team bitches in a shy kind of voice, its hilarious
Um, double standard? "Men like to play as muscular heroes and curvy heroines because they like living vicariously through the men and they like controlling women, but women don't like to play as either of those." And you're lecturing US about sexism towards women.tendo82 post=9.71383.721559 said:
Now, I'm not suggesting that women AREN'T objectified in a lot of games. Anyone can see that they are. And no, it doesn't make it right for games to do it just because they're objectified in just about EVERY form of media out there. But I take issue with your claim that women's tastes are somehow intrinsically more highbrow than the lowly base males who like LOOKING at things. News flash, most women don't like being put on a pedestal much more than they like being objectified.
Not all men like the same thing. But the industri ain't targeting "all men". They are targeting the average man. The same reason why all games now are "consolised" (sorry, console-lovers, but it is almost an official word). They tries to target as many as possible at THE SAME TIME, by making the game average. Remember the word. Average. It is popular to be average. And popular to walk around believing oneself to always be below average, thinking that averagism is something you must strive to achieve.Alex_P post=9.71383.735677 said:
My problem with female characters in games (and media) isn't their sexuality, or being portrayed as sexy (Hey, I'm male, I admit I like big boobs and a nice butt.) as long as they don't beat my head over with it (Functional clothing, is all I ask for...armor that actually covers their body for example.)
What annoys me is the female characters that are portrayed as 2 dimensional, like being weak and whiney (Like most of the girls in Japanese RPGs.
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What annoys me is the female characters that are portrayed as 2 dimensional, like being weak and whiney (Like most of the girls in Japanese RPGs.
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Well, most male characters in games are muscular marines with body armour, which doesn't represent 99% of the male population. But this is the sort of character image we want to see on screen, there's a reason why most actors and actresses look good, because we'd much rather see the best of ourselves represented on screen. The current trend of portraying the average person as the main characters is something new, and innovative, but it's not going to replace the stereo projections, because given the same storylines and characters, people would much rather see some one good looking than the average person.
I think your annoyance, and the objections of most people on this subject is against 2 dimensional characters. This is again a bit of a gender issue, because flat 2D characters are a lot more acceptable to male audiences than to female audiences, but as more girls are playing games now, the need for better character depth has hit the fan. The traditional doom type muscle man who doesn't speak and shoot anything that moves was acceptable to the 90s teen male because the effect of virtual blood in "3D" was "cool", but if the man is now converted to the semi naked big boobs female protagonist who lap dances on screen while snapping necks with her legs, then it becomes unacceptable to the new female audience, because after 30 years of feminism you then see it as objectifying women.
Compare the all guts family man in Tom Clancy novels to the characters in Jane Austin for example. Stereotypes has always been here, they are driven by our desire to actually see these stereotypical people in fiction, but the real objection is against shallow characters, not against stereotypes. So, not surprisingly, I think Mona Sax in "Max Payne" was the best female character in any video game I've played so far, because she *is* the stereotypical video game girl with big breasts and long legs, wearing tight clothes and carrying big guns; however she is also that little touch deeper than the 2 dimensional tough man-woman or the weak damsel in distress.
I think your annoyance, and the objections of most people on this subject is against 2 dimensional characters. This is again a bit of a gender issue, because flat 2D characters are a lot more acceptable to male audiences than to female audiences, but as more girls are playing games now, the need for better character depth has hit the fan. The traditional doom type muscle man who doesn't speak and shoot anything that moves was acceptable to the 90s teen male because the effect of virtual blood in "3D" was "cool", but if the man is now converted to the semi naked big boobs female protagonist who lap dances on screen while snapping necks with her legs, then it becomes unacceptable to the new female audience, because after 30 years of feminism you then see it as objectifying women.
Compare the all guts family man in Tom Clancy novels to the characters in Jane Austin for example. Stereotypes has always been here, they are driven by our desire to actually see these stereotypical people in fiction, but the real objection is against shallow characters, not against stereotypes. So, not surprisingly, I think Mona Sax in "Max Payne" was the best female character in any video game I've played so far, because she *is* the stereotypical video game girl with big breasts and long legs, wearing tight clothes and carrying big guns; however she is also that little touch deeper than the 2 dimensional tough man-woman or the weak damsel in distress.
Guy game characters are made to look good too
It's about the general consensus on what looks good rather than "targeting" anyone
We think girls look good a certain way as a "rule of thumb" and girls think guys look good a certain way as the same "rule of thumb"
And because of that game developers try to make the characters in games as aesthetically pleasing as possible
It's about the general consensus on what looks good rather than "targeting" anyone
We think girls look good a certain way as a "rule of thumb" and girls think guys look good a certain way as the same "rule of thumb"
And because of that game developers try to make the characters in games as aesthetically pleasing as possible
Alyx Vance has been reduced to Gordon's damsel in distress, unfortunately. Ever since the whole traveling buddies thing got going, so did Valve's struggle to make us like her more.Wesker_Chick post=9.71383.735417 said:
Now Samus- damn. That's what every man wants in a woman. Ass kicking. She doesn't need a Dead-or-Alive style disproportioned body.
You mean the constant and shameless bent-over hanging-tit shots of the slut-dressing Naomi in MGS4?beoweasel post=18.71383.735721 said:My problem with female characters in games (and media) isn't their sexuality, or being portrayed as sexy (Hey, I'm male, I admit I like big boobs and a nice butt.) as long as they don't beat my head over with it (Functional clothing, is all I ask for...armor that actually covers their body for example.)
What annoys me is the female characters that are portrayed as 2 dimensional, like being weak and whiney (Like most of the girls in Japanese RPGs.
Mass effect has realistic looking chars. that wear armor 99% of the time.
granted boobs draw in the horny teenagers
granted boobs draw in the horny teenagers