Girl Gamer's Opinion

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misterprickly post=9.71383.787882 said:
And yet it is fair!
Men shoot-up with roids for the same reason Women go under the knife. As for the gym... also the same reason.

My question is why are women letting a video game character upset them? I mean... THEY'RE NOT REAL!!!!!!!
If you're letting a game character dictate life choices to you... then there's something REALLY wrong with you.

If you want to point the finger of shame at something... point it a Pam Anderson; She makes her living off of being an object.
Yes the reason to do it is the same, but the outcome is different, that's the problem how I see it.

As for the 'not real' part, does it matter whether it's a video game or pam? Both have the same effect, they condition the minds of all those watching :p
 

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nilcypher post=9.71383.787957 said:
Not really. Steroids really only have two applications, medicine or enhancing performance in physical activity. Breast enlargement surgery is neither medical, or performance enhancing, not in sports anyway, and women undertake it for a number of reasons.
Steroid use isn't just limited to enhancing performance. It's also used quite extensively in the body building industry to create useless body mass.
 

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The "Girl Gamer's Opinion" Topic lumbers towards the bridge of resurrection, with it's body aflame and fiery whip cracking it advances upon the lone figure on the bridge.

The figure clad in grey ragged robes strides into the middle of the bridge heedless of the bottomless abyss beneath him, he lifts his trusty wizard's staff and commands,
"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"
 

tobyornottoby

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and the thread lay there, every second as long as the lifetime of the earth, until life was put back into it, or something...

"I'll stay here until my task is done"
 

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Before we do feed it, I'd just like to get a word or two in. Yes, women are depicted as stereotypical sex symbols in games, but so are men. The difference is that while the women are depicted that way to draw in male gamers, men are also depicted that way to draw in male gamers; the target market is men, after all, and what better way to get them in than by both appealing to their egos and their penises?

Even in games with fleshed-out characters, those characters are still hardly realistic, so I'd say a lot of it has to do with simple entertainment value. People want to see cool guys doing badass things, because that's what society says a man should be, and people want to see attractive women posing seductively, because, unfortunately, that's what society says women should be. It's the same thing with fat people, who are depicted as lazy, often dishonest, jolly, or irresponsible.

The problem with all of this, though, is in how this difference is treated; namely, just as fat people are often implied to posses certain traits because they are fat, so too are women implied to possess certain traits because they are female. And, of course, these "female" traits often involve being passive objects, weak, etc., the opposite traits of course belonging to men, who are active subjects, strong, aggressive, etc. Naturally, the "male" traits tend to be favoured a lot more than the "female" ones, and this is where the debate lies: not in that the traits themselves are good or bad, but in that when they are possessed, they are often ascribed to that character's gender.

Besides, when's the last time you saw an unattractive female lead in a game? I mean "unattractive", too, not just "less than supermodel standard". I can think of plenty of male characters, but not a single female one.
 

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I want all the male characters to have huge muscles and a rugged jawline and to bend over in front of me so I can see their arse.

Let's face it, men don't have many of the insecurities which women have about their body. So let them have their huge-bosumed women, it's not like they could actually find someone in the real world who looked like that naturally.
 

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Hey, I thought of something. Y'know the way everyone argues that there's plenty of man-candy in games, so women should probably just be shush? Well, has anyone ever considered that, quite the opposite to my previous statement, men and women think differently?

Someone might have already said this, but there's no way I'm trudging through all those pages to check.
 

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Breasts aren't organs.

Not even sexual organs.


I think I really managed to pick up the most important points in that...
 
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Phoenix Arrow post=18.71383.789739 said:
heart-plant post=9.71383.789665 said:
Let's face it, men don't have many of the insecurities which women have about their body.
Hmm. Tell yourself that.
Perhaps we only let you think that. But I've never heard a man worry about 'size' at all. Ever. No. ;)
 

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HSIAMetalKing post=9.71383.721497 said:
This is why "gaming girls" annoy me. They're so goddamn sensitive.

The "women" (I put quotes there because I'm sure at least 70% of them are guys) on these forums have been making new topics to complain about this same stuff every week or so. Guys like big boobs-- get over it. You don't see me complaining when my character in Age of Conan wears a loincloth for the first 20 levels, or when male protagonists have absurdly muscular frames. That shit's not realistic, but you don't see us flabby, pale, basement dwelling geeks throwing up rants all over the Escapist.
And THAT is why some gamers can't talk to girls...you don't understand the fundamental differences in the thought processes of the two genders. I agree with the girl who started this thread...in part, at least. I mean, I could start listing off well-rounded female game characters, but I don't care to do it. Neither will I bother trying to explain the differences between the way guys and girls think. Guys need to figure that out for themselves.
 

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Will do :)

Although I have to say that my knowlegde of men with little to no ego is limited. So maybe there are some men out there who think they're unattractive.
Or maybe it's because most of my male friends are really attractive. What a shame.
 

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So men worry about how large their hips are and if their breasts are big enough/not perky enough?

That's news to me.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil post=9.71383.789749 said:
Phoenix Arrow post=18.71383.789739 said:
heart-plant post=9.71383.789665 said:
Let's face it, men don't have many of the insecurities which women have about their body.
Hmm. Tell yourself that.
Perhaps we only let you think that. But I've never heard a man worry about 'size' at all. Ever. No. ;)
Haha. I have a friend who said he was really insecure about his cock when he was drunk. I wasn't as drunk so I was like "err... ok".
I'm just saying, having super attractive females in next to no clothes in video games can influence young girls and make them think it's normal to act like that. I'm all for liberal sexuality but when you advertise dressing like a whore as a good thing then that's not ok.

And as you're saying there, I have a very small ego. Other guys do too they just sort of hide it behind this whole macho thing. I don't because I'm not very macho.
 
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heart-plant post=9.71383.789759 said:
Will do :)

Although I have to say that my knowlegde of men with little to no ego is limited. So maybe there are some men out there who think they're unattractive.
Or maybe it's because most of my male friends are really attractive. What a shame.
There's a little something in that.
Most women are very shy about their appearance, but almost certainly receive compliments daily.
Most men are also as shy, but receive few, if any, compliments on their appearance, so they 'big themselves up'.
Man -> Woman : "You look nice"; W:"No I don't...my [body area] is too [small/large]"
Woman -> Man : "You look nice"; M: "I HAZ A NEW GIRLFRIEND!"

;) (liberties taken on both sides)
 

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You can't see that through clothes though. Generally. So my insecurities are on a day-to-day basis. Unless you sleep with a different girl everyday it probably doesn't come up that often.
 

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Haha. I have a friend who said he was really insecure about his cock when he was drunk. I wasn't as drunk so I was like "err... ok".
I'm just saying, having super attractive females in next to no clothes in video games can influence young girls and make them think it's normal to act like that. I'm all for liberal sexuality but when you advertise dressing like a whore as a good thing then that's not ok.

And as you're saying there, I have a very small ego. Other guys do too they just sort of hide it behind this whole macho thing. I don't because I'm not very macho.
Yeah, I don't disagree with you there. Although I doubt there are many young girls who play games with enormous-bosumed women.
Even whores don't dress like that.
How cute :) I like to take advantage of the fact I'm female. It means you don't have to lift heavy things and put your back out, and if men buy you drinks it's a lot cheaper :)
So I'm taking advantage of stereotypes.