Glaring plot holes in games

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RichardThompson

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believer258 said:
How hell is Jak Mar in Jak 3, when Mar is the long-dead builder of the city? I suppose it's possible that Damos just named Jak after Mar, but the game implies that Jak is Mar, the builder of the very city he's in. It might also be possible that he went back in time to build the city. But for a game with an otherwise awesome plot, it sure did fall with that one revelation.
I think it implies that he's a descendant of Mar, but I can see where the confusion could arise and in fairness it was vague to that respect. I'm still confused about how Krew reproduced, because of his daughter Rayn in Jak X.
 

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Klumpfot said:
How about most RPGs, in which magic, curative items and skills don't work outside of combat sequences?
Actually, in Arcanum, there's a story sequence where a party member dies.


You can go on without them, or use the Raise Dead spell/technological equivalent. Which you decide to do actually changes a fair bit.
 

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One that always annoyed me was the newer GTA games. The reason given for your character doing a lot of the crimes was for the money. Nico was happy to kill, steal and risk his own life as long as the mafia paid well. But the game gave so many side quests and other business options that your character could be filthy rich and still saying "oh poor me if only I could make more".
 

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WorldCritic said:
In Heavy Rain, why did Ethan keep having those random blackouts and why did he have an origami figure?
Yeah, this got me too. I know that they put it in so as to cast doubt on Ethan, and make us all wary of him, but they never explained to my satisfaction why he was having these black outs and waking up carrying origami figures. In fact, I don't think the game even attempted to explain that one.

It was a fantastic game otherwise, though.
 

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WorldCritic said:
In Heavy Rain, why did Ethan keep having those random blackouts and why did he have an origami figure?
Probably the #1 biggest Plot Hole of any game i've ever played. And since they've scrapped the episodes, we'll probably never know.
 

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In GTAIV, Niko spends a lot of time whining about how he has no ambition or skill apart from killing, and also shows a lot of remorse for his actions. The thing is, there are so many oppurtunities in the game for him to simply give up on his life of crime (particularly after the bank robbery mission), yet he still keeps going back to the Pegorinos and the McReary's for more work.

Yeah, I know that wouldn't make for a fun game, but it did annoy me.
 

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Why does the main character in every horror game INSIST on splitting up the moment they find someone else who isn't a monster/insane/useless? I mean I understand the reasons from a gameplay standpoint since isolation builds tension but from a logical standpoint wouldn't you tie every able bodied and mentally sound person you could find to the belt loops in your pants?

In the Half-Life series, why does Alyx seem so comfortable flirting with Gordon when it's established that there's roughly a 20 year age gap between them. Okay sure he was put in a time stasis thingy but she doesn't know that

In Starcraft 2 why doesn't anyone ATTEMPT to get Tychus out of the suit? They established earlier on that they were aware he was being coerced into cooperation by the Moebius Foundation and his suit came with a kill switch on his nervous system, but couldn't they have done SOMETHING?

In F.E.A.R. after Alma does her little explodey trick on a couple of people, why doesn't the main character turn around and go "there's a ghost ***** with explodey powers, I'm not going in there"?
 

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Why do they even bother trying to make Alex Mercer (Prototype) into a somewhat decent character? He occasionally spouts out bits of dialogue hinting at his possible mental conflictions over making the right choice, all the while mowing down streets full of civilians in a tank
 

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TheDarkestDerp said:
BRex21 said:
Biggest one to piss me off was Fallout 3: The Pitt DLC. So the only way to restore the steel mill is to use slave labour, then they put in a sub plot about how all the workers in this place were getting replaced by robots.
and yes the robots were operational, but you can only use them as cannon fodder for the trogs. In case you wanted to say, Well maybe these people wouldn't know, the leader of the pitt is ex Brotherhood of Steel, those guys tasked with recovering pre-war tech.
it just upset me that there was a perfect everyone wins scenario and you have to ignore it because the developers didn't think about things.
BINGO! Fallout 3 had some doozies. They finally fixed the biggie at the end though, with the option of having your helper start the device. I always wondered why I couldn't send Fawkes, a highly irradiated Super-Mutant or the radiation-proof robot RL-3 into the danger zone, thus risking no one's life and making everybody happy... And why the Enclave could target the Brotherhood's robot Liberty Prime with a pinpoint missile attack to take him out the battle, but not a much larger stationary target like, oh say the Brotherhood home base at the Pentagon?

Also a fave- Bioshock 1 or 2, if Adam is so horribly bad because excessive use of it warps people into crazy freako "sploicers", why do you use it willy-nilly all game with no ill effects?

And one more classic- FF7, all game they whine about MAKO being so horrible, destroying the planet etc etc, but we kept on using it, abusing the hell out of some of it in every fight, through the entire game...
I can explain the FF7 one. Materia is condensed MAKO, but it also occurs naturally. It doesn't have the same effect as normal MAKO on the human body.

What was destroying the planet was the removal of MAKO from the lifestream by Shinra.
 

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Mass Effect 2:
Commander, let's take the shuttle to your next destination and get everyone who can fight on board! It's can't be a bad idea, it's not like we're integrating Normandy with the most advanced technology in galaxy, that want's to kill us! How possibly could this end bad?
 

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in RPGs etc, potions... if you got your arm chopped off, surely a potion won't make it better, on a similar note, Max Payne... if I took that many painkillers my health wouldn't be full.. I'd have either ODed or I would be high as a kite
 

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Old Sully shooting Rebecca in DR2. He shoots her point blank them mouths off to the three left long enough to get distracted!
 

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Tdc2182 said:
DaHero said:
It's called having a deep and glaring hatred for every FPS in the world...when life hands you as much crap as I've taken from 7 years of losses then you'll feel about like me. Believe me, if I was trolling, I could do MUCH better than that.

I have to go with the Brutal Legend part where Eddie turns into a demon...first time everyone freaks out but the second? Not really...just regular day at work.
Wait wait wait.

You're a good video game troll because your life is hard?
Yeah, he is the internet batman.
 

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Traps in Tomb Raider in areas which were heavily used when the ancient race wasn't extinct yet, like hallways.
 

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Ironman126 said:
Fr said:
anc[is]How Shepard knows about thermal clips after being dead for 2 years. They were invented while s/he was dead. Tiny one, but still there
Dude, i was thinking the exact same thing!
I'm gonna go ahead and say that Cerberus probably implanted something in his brain that informed him of them.
 

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fleacythesheep said:
Mine has to be Dragon Age (I LOVE the game but this has always bugged me).

They only give you the option of joining one person, why just him? Like if you need a warden to kill the archdemon, you only have two wardens, and you know how to make more. THEN FUCKING MAKE MORE! Gha... stupid... sorry.
This actually gets adressed at some point
(they also need the blood of a archdemon for their super happy luck juice. They lost that when Loghain marked the Grey Wardens as traitors)

In Dragon Age awakening, you actually get to make more Grey Wardens :p
 

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Why did a team of at least 6 highly intelligent scientists who had their minds melded together (highly intelligent enough to figure out how to meld their minds together but not enough to realise that it won't do anything to help the zone) not figure out that you were Strelok? I mean seriously, you were the leader of the Strelok faction and they knew the leader was called Strelok but they decided to send you to kill Strelok after you get amnesia..... BRAIN HURT!
 

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TheDarkestDerp said:
Also a fave- Bioshock 1 or 2, if Adam is so horribly bad because excessive use of it warps people into crazy freako "sploicers", why do you use it willy-nilly all game with no ill effects?
I think it's a long time use thing. You only binge on it for a couple days max, and that's not enough time to cause damage, maybe? and Let's not forget that technically you're not a normal human; you're a gross, bio-engineered freak/slave/Deus ex machina.

OT: Although speaking of Bioshock. Why did Andrew Ryan send you topside in the first place? A mind-controlled, Mutant, Immortal, super "son" could have been pretty fucking useful in a pinch, i would think. He may not have lost his damn city if he had you! Why not Just Sic him on Fontaine when the latter started causing trouble?

And he erased the memory of your childhood in Rapture, replacing it with a fake memory of a life in a farm or something, right? Well, then what exactly were you doing for the few years that you had been gone? Did you just walk out of the ocean and turn into a New York Hobo for some time?
 

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Fr said:
anc[is]How Shepard knows about thermal clips after being dead for 2 years. They were invented while s/he was dead. Tiny one, but still there
How about the thermal clips becoming a UNIVERSAL standard within 2 years....that's one hell of a consensus.