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feel like a dick for pointing this out but http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.161430-Largest-plot-hole-in-a-game?page=1
And it does follow the age old video game logic where you split up with your friends to clear the way. You fight through incredible odds... only to find them waiting for you when you get there.UberNoodle said:It could be a plot hole but Kratos already showed that it wasn't impossible to reach the top of the mountain. That 'regular Joes' were also up there would only be a plot hole if such a possibility had been denied earlier. Those soldiers could have their own epic story. Perhaps they were airlifted in by another god, or used magic. Obviously if there is a temple to Pandora there, there must be accolytes, priests and priestesses. Perhaps those fighters were stationed at the top of the mountain.Kwatsu said:
You see, 'plot hole' has become of the most misused words by Net geekdom. It doesn't mean a plot or story point, or character action that doesn't 'make sense' (though it may make a lot of sense to somebody else, for example, the creators). It is an explicit failure in the application of the story and world's logic. It doesn't mean an information gap present because of how the narrative is constructed (for example, non-omnipotent narratives only explain what the view point characters can directly experience and discover themselves).
Back when I was a kid, I realised that Optimus Prime never used his giant laser axe again after the first episode of Transformers. That could be a plot hole, if we disregard the possibility that the axe was broken in that fight. Galvatron saying that 'autobots can't fly', after several prior episodes prior showing them able to so, is also a probable plot hole. However, Galvatron could have been lying or mistaken, or just referring to the abilities of Autobots he was with.
Many accused plot holes can be filled, and often they are. But so many people today, especially on forums like IMDB, consider them impossible to fill, simply because they noticed it. If those legionaires up at the temple of Pandora were actually from down below, and climbled their as the hero did, then it would be a good candidate for a plot hole. Yet, as shown, it is one easily filled with imagination.
This is not a 'go' at you btw. I'm just discussing with you.
One day someone is going to do a "One Hour Ago" mission that explains this sort of thing. Or they'll be revealed to be demons or something.
Heavy Rain teems with glaring plot holes or at the very least unlikely situations and coincidences.
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- During the hospital scene, Madison is told the identity of the Origami Killer. She acts shocked at hearing Shelby's name, but ... she hadn't met him yet at his point or even had any knowledge of him.
- Dear Madison. Hiding in a fridge while the building is on fire is a bad idea. Locking yourself in an airtight container with a limited air supply that is notoriously hard to open from the inside. Smart.
- How the hell does Norman Jayden hide his debilitating drug addiction? He works for the FBI, for crying out loud. Even if they don't do any drug tests, his work place is filled with people that are trained to notice things that are off.
- The police officers who went to check up on junkyard killer Mad Jack and got killed must be the most hated in the precinct. Otherwise their collegues surely would've sent out somebody to investigate the last known wherabouts of a couple of missing cops.
- during the Butterfly trial, Ethan had to crawl through narrow crawl-spaces filled with broken glass. It was already cramped for him, so how did someone of Shelby's size manage to set it up? For that matter, how does he do it without anyone noticing? Or where does he get the funds and resources from?
- Dear Madison. Hiding in a fridge while the building is on fire is a bad idea. Locking yourself in an airtight container with a limited air supply that is notoriously hard to open from the inside. Smart.
- How the hell does Norman Jayden hide his debilitating drug addiction? He works for the FBI, for crying out loud. Even if they don't do any drug tests, his work place is filled with people that are trained to notice things that are off.
- The police officers who went to check up on junkyard killer Mad Jack and got killed must be the most hated in the precinct. Otherwise their collegues surely would've sent out somebody to investigate the last known wherabouts of a couple of missing cops.
- during the Butterfly trial, Ethan had to crawl through narrow crawl-spaces filled with broken glass. It was already cramped for him, so how did someone of Shelby's size manage to set it up? For that matter, how does he do it without anyone noticing? Or where does he get the funds and resources from?
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Dude...Blue_vision said:
...if you're playing Just Cause 2 for the STORY, you're doing it wrong.
BIGGEST PLOT HOLE: How do the Ghosts come back to life in Pac Man?
Seriously, I've been waiting for this answer for 20 years now. I've constantly emailed, mailed, called, followed, left subtle notes, left overt notes, cut into their phone conversations, and stalked the creators for the past 20 years trying to find out how this happens. They never even touch on it, they just reappear as if we're supposed to just completely suspend our disbelief. Which would be fine the first time, but this just keep s happening, there's no way to avoid it. It left me severely disappointed with the game overall, but at the same time, this controversy so entranced me that I couldn't help playing it as much as possible. So much, in fact, that the rest of my life has had to suffer. I've lost my wife, my kids are alienated, my old neighborhood considered my behavior a threat to the moral values of their children, so I had to leave. Except I could not purchase a new home or rent a new apartment because, besides all my funds going to my Pac Man research hedge fund and losing my job, after maxing out my credit cards to continue to have access to electricity and the internet, I had such bad credit that nobody would let me come within five miles of a prospective home for fear of "the credit taint". In fact, I'm writing this post from a public library terminal to share this gaping plot hole with the world while I'm on the run from debt collectors. Oh no, they've found me! But I still have a captcha to fill out, hopefully I'll have the ti-
Seriously, I've been waiting for this answer for 20 years now. I've constantly emailed, mailed, called, followed, left subtle notes, left overt notes, cut into their phone conversations, and stalked the creators for the past 20 years trying to find out how this happens. They never even touch on it, they just reappear as if we're supposed to just completely suspend our disbelief. Which would be fine the first time, but this just keep s happening, there's no way to avoid it. It left me severely disappointed with the game overall, but at the same time, this controversy so entranced me that I couldn't help playing it as much as possible. So much, in fact, that the rest of my life has had to suffer. I've lost my wife, my kids are alienated, my old neighborhood considered my behavior a threat to the moral values of their children, so I had to leave. Except I could not purchase a new home or rent a new apartment because, besides all my funds going to my Pac Man research hedge fund and losing my job, after maxing out my credit cards to continue to have access to electricity and the internet, I had such bad credit that nobody would let me come within five miles of a prospective home for fear of "the credit taint". In fact, I'm writing this post from a public library terminal to share this gaping plot hole with the world while I'm on the run from debt collectors. Oh no, they've found me! But I still have a captcha to fill out, hopefully I'll have the ti-
The... what?
Umm... because they had the resources, they had the Lazarus Project, and they had TIM wanting to fight the Collectors and the Reapers. Have you played Mass Effect 2?
Space baby? What? Care to clarify?
The hell are you talking about?
There was no retcon. The quarian immune system has always worked the same.
I assume you mean Cerberus? Shepard maintains contact with them because they're giving out free information, equipment, and money. We've previously established that you've never actually played Mass Effect 2, so I'll tell you this: after you beat the last boss, you're basically given the option to tell The Illusive Man to piss off, severing all ties to Cerberus.
I don't know what you're referencing. Cerberus?
This isn't even... ugh. You know what, never mind.
What does this even mean? When was Ashley frozen?
Because you're retarded? You are exactly the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to post in Plot Hole threads.
Well, mine's kind of a plot hole. Why didn't they just make Assassins Creed 2 end at the time period of the Pope's actual death, instead of forcing there to be Assassins Creed Brotherhood?
EDIT: Ok, a better plot hole like quesiton would be why Ezio decides later that he's actually going to kill the Pope?
EDIT: Ok, a better plot hole like quesiton would be why Ezio decides later that he's actually going to kill the Pope?
No, humans aren't forerunner. Though they are the inheritors of their rolls, and arguably technology as well. As the forerunner discovered humanity upon Earth and went to great lengths to preserve it.Wylade said:
Amusingly this event also coincides with our own history when humanity was reduced to a very small population early on.
You did NOT just pull a: number so large it's impossible to happen despite the fact that it happened(even though it wasn't chance); borderline creationist right there.GrizzlerBorno said:
There are several problems with this plan.fleacythesheep said:
1. After the events at Ostagar, Loghain branded the Grey Wardens traitors and did not hesitate to spread the word.
2. The process of the Joining Ritual includes drinking Darkspawn blood, not just anybody is going to volunteer for that. Especially not when the majority thinks that the Grey Wardens are traitors.
3. Even if you do find someone willing to join the Wardens and help them in their cause, you have to be sure that they are able to fight, not simply commoners.
Unless you mean the period when Loghain lost to you and gave up, then the only problem would be:
4. They might not survive the process.
ChupathingyX said:
there were other scenes cut from the game, they were just left as unexplained... every time that Ethan blacked out, he would float around an upside-down, submerged house... it would end when you found the Origami killer's next victim. they were sharing a psychic link, but they dropped the whole plotline fairly last minute...
One I can think of is Killzone 2 is when one of your team mates die by being shot as a result of the, but in terms of the rest of it it makes no sense. They could of just used that zapper thing on him that seems to magically make everything better, even after getting a grenade to the face.
Obviously, since the plan didn't work, it was a bad call. However, it is not a plot hole. Infiltration of the operation over taking down a figurehead is perfectly reasonable goal. You say that they could have just seized the rest of the weapons, but the point is they couldn't be sure WHERE those weapons where, or if information on where other weapons were could be obtained, or used before some weaponized plague hit the streets of New York. Maybe it's a sensationalized interpretation of gathering intelligence, but MW2 IS sensationalized for dramatic purposes. If you disagree with the decision, fine, and if you think that the plan went poorly then everyone will disagree, but untill you realize that Makarov is pulling the strings of a very complicated pupet the whole time, the decision to go through with the terrorist attack to keep the undercover agents cover is a perfectly rational one. It makes even more sense when you allow for the necessary dramatic conventions of a story.Drummie666 said:
That could be true. There was mention of neural implants, if i recall correctly.theonlyblaze2 said:
according to cortana (in the novels anyway), it wasn't a "blind" jump, she used some coordinates she had intercepted from a covenant transmission on cote d'azure (sp) or had scanned from the rock they found there or somethingPlatinum117 said:
on that note, why the hell was the pillar of autumn ever on reach during Halo: Reach, that makes no sense at all, especially since they are clearly noted as being in space and called back to reach when the battle starts (i know the game dev should have ultimate authority over the content, but the book was released in like 2005 it would be nice to see a little continuity for the overly dedicated fan's sake)
also, you can survive a maximum of like 20 minutes at the end of the game, is that reallly going to make a reasonable difference in the overall effort to launch the pillar of autumn? (assuming it's presence isn't bullshit in the first place) ground troops can't do much against a spaceship, so i mean really? is your sacrifice at all called for? you would probably be much more use to humanity as a living member of the armed forces.
also, team noble's existence is kinda pulled straight out of bungie's rear end... i much rather would've followed some squad of spartan II's fighting for the generators and running other various guerilla tactics against insurmountable odds, then at least the final stand would make sense