Glee Airs Performance of Jonathan Coulton's "Baby Got Back"

[Beautiful End]

He should release an album where he does all the glee songs

POETIC JUSTICE! Perfect.

OT: Fuck Glee. That's all one can say. Not only do they butcher every single song they sing; I have yet to hear a single song that makes me say "Hey! This isn't bad! or "It's better than the original!" and I have nothing against covers; but they blatantly admit they're stealing people's songs AND not credit the author in any way possible.

AND! They make it look as if they're doing them a favor!
Glee: "Oh, please. Jonathan who? Guy, just be thankful we gave you your 5 minutes in the spotlight. Now, step aside and let the pros do their job. This isn't amateur hour."

Look, people who like Glee, nothing against you but there are better things to watch out there. broaden your horizons. Don't support these shitty thieves.

How is this show still alive anyway?! Stealing songs? Crappy covers? Are tween girls THAT dumb?

...Might be a rhetorical question.

 

[shiajun]

What a ridiculous artifact of US copyright law that an arranger isn't entitled to royalties or even so much as credit for their original work. Maurice Ravel is turning in his grave.

Actually Fox got away with this because of how Coulton classed his music. It seems. Some sort of "fair use" license meant for fans of his work.

That people can rearrange it without legal trouble. However, Fox used this to steal. A legal loophole.

Maybe. However, since Fox is gaining considerable profit, like through iTunes sales , I think "fair use" no longer applies. It's clearly intended for commercial purposes.

In an interview Coulton said he payed a license to use the song. I don't know if Fox has done that. If they have payed, it's not piracy, but it is plagiarism since it's the exact same track. Coulton's cover is so many world's away from the original's version you'd have to have your head screwed on backwards to think two people could arrive at identical arrangements from that source material by coincidence.

 

[AlexanderPeregrine]

Glee has often seemed to have a tempestuous relationship with the people who provide (or refuse to provide) the music they use at best- see also: [link]http://screenrant.com/glee-music-ryan-murphy-dave-grohl-foo-fighters-mcrid-106663/[/link]

For somebody headlining a massively popular show that single-handedly propelled an obscure Australian singer's single into the Billboard Year-End Number 1 for 2012, Ryan Murphy sure does act like an entitled, whiny piece of shit at the slightest provocation.

 

[rayen020]

Wow. What condescending douchebaggery. I never liked Glee much to begin with, but i took a live and let live approach as long as they didn't get to big and i had to hear them everywhere. Well now i have to openly campaign against them.

 

[CriticalMiss]

Are tween girls THAT dumb?

Yes, yes they are.

We can only hope that Mr Coulton can take legal action against them. Although FOX will, as I've said before, throw a few million dollars at some legal monkeys and make the problem go away. Where are Anonymous when you need them?

 

[Beautiful End]

Are tween girls THAT dumb?

Yes, yes they are.

We can only hope that Mr Coulton can take legal action against them. Although FOX will, as I've said before, throw a few million dollars at some legal monkeys and make the problem go away. Where are Anonymous when you need them?

Oh, I don't know if you wanna summon the Anon gods. They're kinda like a monkey's paw. Maybe they will ruin FOX in some way but others might suffer for it. For example, I like New Girl.

...What? Zooey Deschanel is awesome!

 

[Proverbial Jon]

Never seen glee before...*clicks on vid*...the f*** did I just watch?! Excuse me as I go pour bleach in my eyes.

Better put that stuff in your ears as well.

OT: Using Jonathan Coulton's particular version of this song without asking/crediting him is pretty bad by its own merits, but what gets me is the sheer arrogance and utter lack of empathy that is displayed in the quote: "You should be happy for the exposure." Who do these people think they are?

Besides, what exposure?

 

[Zef Otter]

Now to everyone here.. What do you prefer...?


Glee or Kids bop?

 

[Something Amyss]

Can't we just focus on the fact that glee is a lazy mess and that they don't respect artists and their work?

We could, but why single out Glee? Almost nobody cites the arranger if they use a non-original version of the song. Songs like Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower" or "This Wheel's on Fire" rarely give credits to later authors who are generally the arrangements from which other artists work. I loves me some Dylan, but he's a good example of people doing new arrangements , becoming more or less the definitive work, and no credit offered.

I know it's popular to hate Glee, and it's kind of deserved. It's a trashy show with a lot of lackluster covers that make you wish you were listening to the better version. But in this case, what are they doing that isn't already done by everybody else? If this wasn't Johnny C and Glee, would there be anywhere near this outrage? I seriously doubt it. Coulton is a nerd icon and Glee is a popular target, but they haven't done anything here that you can distinctly call them out on.

 

[RJ 17]

Instead, he was told that he should be "happy for the exposure." "They do not credit me, and have not even publicly acknowledged that it's my version - so you know, it's kind of SECRET exposure," he wrote.

This is what I was going to say, but evidently John has common sense like the rest of us. How the hell is it giving him exposure if you make absolutely no attempt to say "By the way, we got this from a guy named John Coulton"?

Seriously, I want this show to be cancelled in the worst of ways. The fact that it's a thing annoys me to no end.

 

[BlackStar42]

To quote Yahtzee, There is no middle finger big enough!

Does anyone know if he has any legal grounds to sue?

 

[Rawne1980]

So is there anything at all from stopping him from copy pasting songs from Glee, and selling a "new original album"? After all, if it's just a cover, it doesn't matter right?

Except if he was going to do it for an album that people would then pay for he would need to seek permission.

Not from Glee but from all the people who Glee have covered.

Seeing as Glee is just a show that covers songs.

 

[rayen020]

I'm starting a movement. Torrent Episodes of GLEE, Post on youtube with the title "Be happy for the Exposure."

 

[D-Class 198482]

I've made a decision. I'm going to go into the kitchen. I'm going to turn on the dishwasher. And then I am going to climb inside.

OT: Why? Why? Glee flew under my radar because nobody talked about it much BUT WHY? Excuse me everybody, I'm off to hunt FOXes!

 

[Flunk]

Honestly, this is just another small thing that shows how intellectually and creatively bankrupt Glee is. I show about overproduced covers of popular songs with all set to a vapid generic high school plot-line.

All they really needed to do is credit Coulton and there wouldn't have been an issue. I suppose you could make the argument that the musical score is distinct from the original track, but that would probably be more trouble that it's worth. I congratulate Jonny C for drumming up all the publicity he can out of this.

 

[FFP2]

I used to like Glee but these dudes are assholes.

And their version of BGB is awful... The new people can't act or sing.

 

[lacktheknack]

only people who know of the cover-of-cover are Johnathan Coulton fans / a couple online-magazine-readers who didn't know who Johnathan Coulton is
>Say "Be happy for the exposure"

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All that needs to be said, really, just a parroting of the original story. Can't say that Glee is endearing itself to me.

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm starting a movement. Torrent Episodes of GLEE, Post on youtube with the title "Be happy for the Exposure."

Make sure that you don't actually say what show it is, and censor any uses of the word "Glee".