I haven't played the hardest diffculty, only the second to hardest. And I'm not an expert on the intricacies of fighting mechanics, but things never felt unfair to me in terms of camera or enemy speed. And no, Kratos does not take up 40% of the screen during combat, unless you're talking about when you back yourself up into a wall, which happens in every game. At best he takes up 10%.Redryhno said:
It's actually really cool how they made Kratos' fighting style reflect his personality again, like in the first games. In those games he fights like a tornado of chains and blades, chewing up anything that comes within reach, because he himself is an unhinged, mindless, crazed killer. In this new GoW he's completely disciplined, and the combat as a result requires discipline and a cool head, instead of mindless button mashing.hanselthecaretaker said:
While I liked the previous God of War combat, I'll admit it was a fairly simplistic system, that never quite reached the complexity or viscerally compelling spectacle of similar games like DMC and Bayonetta, God of War's best spectacle and experience came from its boss fights.stroopwafel said:
The game is alright, I'd recommend it when it gets to the 50% off bin, but there's just so much shit in it. Runes, equipment, damn collectibles that have no reason to be there other than the industry's somewhat recent infatuation with them that are just shoved in, many parts of the combat and the lack of patterns in boss fights and the complete lack of anything resembling the executions that made the series iconic, best I've seen so far is just chopping into a troll's jaw before he just fades away into pixels(literally, bodies turn into big damn pixels in the middle of a fight and just shrink, I guess they're supposed to be ashes, but they could've done a better job). Everything else just gets hidden behind scripted arena geometry and conveniently placed big-ass weapons that Kratos just climbs back over after presumably breaking some poor bastard's face in.Ezekiel said:
Shame on you, posting a polygon link without warning people first. Now I've gotta go take a shower.hanselthecaretaker said:
Not answering the second question, but to the first, you kind of know the important stuff, the PSP games mostly just give context to some of Kratos actions while working for Aries and some extra about his family and past, none of it really relevant to 4. God of War 2 and 3 is where the big stuff happens, but very little carries over, the end of 2 gives you the fate of one character and three is the end of Kratos Greek adventures, Kratos ending up in Norse mythology, his son, and his second wife are all self-contained to 4. There's some call backs, but nothing that would really cause you to not understand the story, you might want to at least find out what happens at the end of 3 as that kind of contextualizes why Kratos isn't in Greece anymore, though the answer isn't exactly a twist.tippy2k2 said:
That "review" doesn't seem much better though either; just on the other end of the spectrum. He makes it sound like every game that has combat should be a top-down/isometric with a bird's eye viewpoint. That is essentially trying to de-legitimize a great deal of game genres, including something like the much lauded Souls series, since 99% of the time the camera aligns itself behind you facing forward as well. No, this actually seems to be mostly a continued knee-jerk reaction to a major change in an IP that was already running on fumes from nearly every design perspective. I can understand personal preference, but for whatever reason the continued need for some to harp on about problems that have been greatly proven to be minimal to non-existent only makes it seem like a personal grudge more than a legitimate attempt at critiquing.Ezekiel said:
Like I said above, you can turn the camera however you want and often have to for range combat. It's the first game on PS4 I don't max out camera speed (8/10 for me on the slider) because it seems a bit too fast otherwise.Ezekiel said:
Bull. Shit. The combat in this game is anything but slow paced. Enemies come at you relentlessly, and Kratos controls just as snappy as he did in the past -- Have you seen the dude's quick-turn? The only difference now being that you need to think about your moves and the moves of the enemies. You need to be on the ball, because as soon as you lose the "rhythym" of the engagement you'll slip up and get killed very quickly.Ezekiel said:
Yeah, that is one of the game's best things, it has some incredibly fun combat that doesn't feel like it's a clone of something else. If there is one game though the amount of visual feedback reminded me most of Monster Hunter World. Espescially when fighting those lizards.Casual Shinji said:
Hehe..I meant it mostly in the context of a more 'mainstream' title.hanselthecaretaker said:
You take positive comments with a grain of salt, but take negative ones as gospel... One would almost think you're looking to have your bias confirmed concerning a game you haven't even played.Ezekiel said:
Yet anything negative you pounce on as an example why you think it's shit, and anything positive you brush off because what you're seeing apparently tells a different story.Ezekiel said:
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hanselthecaretaker said:
Cool. I've only just played 2 hours and so far so good. The base combat (no upgrades or skills yet for me) is pretty simple overall but already better than the classic GOW combat. I really hope there's upgrades on the axe's callback ability, I love doing it but it feels lackluster on its affect on enemies. The first boss fight or mini-boss was a bit disappointing, it seemed like it took too long and there wasn't much you could do to him outside of just hacking away until dead. For some reason, I thought I was going to hate the kid even though I watched very few videos about the game; but I'm quite enjoying the father/son relationship so far along with some chuckle worthy lines from both characters.stroopwafel said:
Really? I'm pretty sure that Sony publishes the most varied library of games of ANY publisher out there, not just including Nintendo and Microsoft but any publisher whether it be EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, etc.Ezekiel said:I like this picture.
You can just mentally keep track of most enemies off screen. Like freeze a guy behind you with the axe and have that internal clock going before he unfreezes like a quarterback in the pocket. That's situational awareness. Being able to clearly see everything is the opposite of situational awareness, that's why it's called situational awareness when an outfielder is tracking a ball near the wall and just knows where the wall is without being able to see both it and the ball at the same time. You complain about ADS or OTS in shooters limiting your view, you can't keep mental track of things for like the 1-2 seconds you should be shooting at any given time? How are all the big action games just like God of War? What other melee combat action games besides like God Hand has a similar camera to GOW? Lastly, God of War plays nothing like a TPS because, you know, it's not a shooter.Ezekiel said:
Hey look, we've moved on from dismissing complaints and grievances to just straight up going to rule 11 of the internet.hanselthecaretaker said:
Sure, but the thing all those games have in common beyond the same goddamn camera angle and how much everyone seems to be in love with trees and post-post-apocalyptia, is that they're mostly praised by critics, but have some pretty vocal detractors that are often saying much of the same thing: Pretty, but with glaring flaws that seem to be glossed over(if not outright ignored or even attacking said detractors like hansel is doing now) by the people that like them.Phoenixmgs said:Really? I'm pretty sure that Sony publishes the most varied library of games of ANY publisher out there, not just including Nintendo and Microsoft but any publisher whether it be EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, etc.Ezekiel said:I like this picture.
You'll find the combat gets better the further you progress. There are some excellent moves that will turn you into a powerhouse. I suggest getting the Executioner's Cleave as soon as possible, as it will carry you through the game. However, it's a move that has a slow charge, and most enemies will either attack you out of it or dodge it. And this is why the combat is so brilliant, because you can't just unleash shit, you really need to find those attack windows to get the better of your enemies. A parry for example will knock the air out of most enemies enough to perform an executoner's cleave. And I would highly suggest playing it on Challenging, if you aren't already.Phoenixmgs said:
Redryhno said:Hey look, we've moved on from dismissing complaints and grievances to just straight up going to rule 11 of the internet.hanselthecaretaker said:
I think the camera and the focus on telling a "serious" story is nothing but a detriment to the game and franchise simply because of just basic cognitive dissonance and the fact that I'm fighting with the camera more than I'm fighting with the sponges. There are parts of the game that are interesting and the art style, while lacking in places, is done well, the puzzles seem to largely be interesting in design and theory, but the praise loaded on it is undue. It's a solid 7 game, but in terms of franchise and branding, it falls below the bar to me. This is not God of War, it's just a game that was marketed as one because new IP's are scary.
Also I do so hope you're getting paid for this, because you do it so confidently, and otherwise you're seriously just a very sad fanboy in my eyes.
Sure, but the thing all those games have in common beyond the same goddamn camera angle and how much everyone seems to be in love with trees and post-post-apocalyptia, is that they're mostly praised by critics, but have some pretty vocal detractors that are often saying much of the same thing: Pretty, but with glaring flaws that seem to be glossed over(if not outright ignored or even attacking said detractors like hansel is doing now) by the people that like them.Phoenixmgs said:Really? I'm pretty sure that Sony publishes the most varied library of games of ANY publisher out there, not just including Nintendo and Microsoft but any publisher whether it be EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, etc.Ezekiel said:I like this picture.