Good Rpgs on pc?
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CCP bought White Wolf and are developing the MMO set in the (old) World of Darkness. I don't think a sequel to Bloodlines was ever planned, as none of the other WoD games has one. Heck, WW themselves don't seem to be too bothered about video games as a whole - Heart of Gaia would never see the light of day and seems they are chill about it. Even then, how would you make a sequel to it, seeing as there are at least 3 different endings in terms of significance. Not to mention Gehenna hits soon afterwards and wipes the world. That's both in-game (it's really set in the Final Nights) and out of game (the WoD was terminated and rebooted in 2004, when Bloodlines came out).KingsGambit said:
I'm not entirely sure if WW would have even bothered to make any other games set in the oWoD, since until a couple of years ago, they did consider it pretty much dead. Really, the MMO is probably their only chance of releasing something set there.
I can't really see how it's CCP's fault at all.
I've some people suggest Divinity 2 (seriously, make sure you get Developer's Cut...) but I've seen no one mention the original Divine Divinity!
Ridiculous name aside it's gotta be one of my favourite RPGs. It is undoubtedly a Diablo clone, but hell, it does it well! Kooky sense of humour and ridiculous accents abound!
Forget Beyond Divinity though, that was abysmal. So bugged/broken, I mean, lockpicking does nothing, for one example. Literally. The lockpick command just does not work.
Ridiculous name aside it's gotta be one of my favourite RPGs. It is undoubtedly a Diablo clone, but hell, it does it well! Kooky sense of humour and ridiculous accents abound!
Forget Beyond Divinity though, that was abysmal. So bugged/broken, I mean, lockpicking does nothing, for one example. Literally. The lockpick command just does not work.
Even if true a "sequel" wouldn't have to follow on from the first game, could be set at afterwards in a different area, at the same time somewhere else, or even before hand. Hell you could play a game about how the Camarilla established dominanceDoPo said:
Except you're forgetting the fact that the incarnation of the World of Darkness where Bloodlines is set stopped existing both in-universe (well...maybe it stopped existing, at any rate - Gehenna) and out of universe with the release of the new World of Darkness. Why would have WW invested in a game that is not what they are currently selling? If they did make a game, it would have been nWoD, though, it's not like they were really interested in the prospect.Anthony Corrigan said:
Besides, there is still Redemption, if you're after more games.
Well, the Elder Scrolls games are a given. My personal favorite is Daggerfall, but it can take a little tinkering to get DOSbox to run it well, depending on your machine. Otherwise Skyrim is fair enough.
Next up is Dungeons of Dredmor. It's a great little Roguelike with a nice sense of humor. It's great if a little humor doesn't spoil your mood on things. It has a lot of variation in how you can build your character, and it's plenty difficult, so there's a lot of replay value to be had. Very light on the story, though; as-in "Kill the end boss to save the world". There's your story. DoD is pretty much strictly about character building.
A good platformer/RPG that's set-up like a Roguelike is the recent Rogue Legacy. If you loved Symphony of the Night, you'll love Rogue Legacy. It operates on the idea that you keep your upgrades from character to character, with every new character being the next heir of your previous character (hence the legacy). Don't be fooled by the fact that you keep upgrades though, because the game makes-up for it with high difficulty, and every time you beat the game you unlock a new tier of New Game+ with harder enemies (last I heard, someone was up to New Game +25).
Next up is Dungeons of Dredmor. It's a great little Roguelike with a nice sense of humor. It's great if a little humor doesn't spoil your mood on things. It has a lot of variation in how you can build your character, and it's plenty difficult, so there's a lot of replay value to be had. Very light on the story, though; as-in "Kill the end boss to save the world". There's your story. DoD is pretty much strictly about character building.
A good platformer/RPG that's set-up like a Roguelike is the recent Rogue Legacy. If you loved Symphony of the Night, you'll love Rogue Legacy. It operates on the idea that you keep your upgrades from character to character, with every new character being the next heir of your previous character (hence the legacy). Don't be fooled by the fact that you keep upgrades though, because the game makes-up for it with high difficulty, and every time you beat the game you unlock a new tier of New Game+ with harder enemies (last I heard, someone was up to New Game +25).
True but how would you suggest making any sort of "sequel" with Troika gone, the world gone (remember both in- and out-universe, and White Wolf both not interested and seemingly unwilling to allow for another game? I really can't see why you think such a game was feasible and likely to happen.Anthony Corrigan said:
well, i'll throw the upper ones into the wind. i like my rpg's old school snes rpgs, sega gen rpg's. so we'll get all the big names out of the way first, some or most have already been said, so you can either check them off, or ignore them. mass effect, dragon age, deus ex, gothic, witcher, the elder scrolls, avernum, torchlight, neverwinter nights, dungeon siege, system shock, fallout, bioshock, sw:kotor, fable, boarderlands, ys, kor: rekoning, divinity, risen, two worlds, genforge, drakensang, arcania, etc.
new games; "dark", a weird retro rpgish game, looking foreword to it. "ff7", newer than that version they released a long time ago which i still have the dics to. speaking of which, i think i have ff8 along side it. pc versions, lol. still sad that ff9 or any others didn't come to pc port. a few other rpg's have crossed my screen a few times, some are indie old school style. mid 2k era. and some are cartoony or super graphics. also, many others that some might not consider a full rpg because they lean towards fps, stratagy, beat'em up and a few others. but, you'll enjoy them as much as an rpg non-the-less. keep an eye out for new rpg's that may becoming out this year or the next.
just keep away from the ones that look like they were made in that rpg maker crap they try to sell ppl a game they made for free by tweeking premade stuff.
and hopefully i didn't say everything that was already said and gave a few new ones to the list. there is a lot that i have on my steam that i didn't list, because either i never played them, or i don't quite see them as an rpg standard that you're looking for. even thuogh many of the games above and unmentioned. i already have. i also have many that i'm growing out to my 360. and eventually probably either new gen or ps3/wii. i like the tales series since the ps1 days and the old ff games. snes, and ps1. (it got weird in ps2-3) also, if there's some mmo's that have rpg elements. both p2p and f2p. and many ones under the radar of main stream gaming and also some that are console only. dragon quest is a good one for an oldy, i think they flopped on their last one since it was a short wii game. both all the numbered games i remember being good.
i could be here forever if i move on to console games. well, take a look through the top part, if you see something that no one added, that added to a game to look into. even if it turns out to be crappy. most the games listed were part of a series with more than one game, so you can probably see what you like if you like something of a series. or you could go between to see something new.
new games; "dark", a weird retro rpgish game, looking foreword to it. "ff7", newer than that version they released a long time ago which i still have the dics to. speaking of which, i think i have ff8 along side it. pc versions, lol. still sad that ff9 or any others didn't come to pc port. a few other rpg's have crossed my screen a few times, some are indie old school style. mid 2k era. and some are cartoony or super graphics. also, many others that some might not consider a full rpg because they lean towards fps, stratagy, beat'em up and a few others. but, you'll enjoy them as much as an rpg non-the-less. keep an eye out for new rpg's that may becoming out this year or the next.
just keep away from the ones that look like they were made in that rpg maker crap they try to sell ppl a game they made for free by tweeking premade stuff.
and hopefully i didn't say everything that was already said and gave a few new ones to the list. there is a lot that i have on my steam that i didn't list, because either i never played them, or i don't quite see them as an rpg standard that you're looking for. even thuogh many of the games above and unmentioned. i already have. i also have many that i'm growing out to my 360. and eventually probably either new gen or ps3/wii. i like the tales series since the ps1 days and the old ff games. snes, and ps1. (it got weird in ps2-3) also, if there's some mmo's that have rpg elements. both p2p and f2p. and many ones under the radar of main stream gaming and also some that are console only. dragon quest is a good one for an oldy, i think they flopped on their last one since it was a short wii game. both all the numbered games i remember being good.
i could be here forever if i move on to console games. well, take a look through the top part, if you see something that no one added, that added to a game to look into. even if it turns out to be crappy. most the games listed were part of a series with more than one game, so you can probably see what you like if you like something of a series. or you could go between to see something new.
And I thought I was crazy playing it and thinking "Huh, well this certainly isn't that bad" in response to the general opinion that it's absolutely terrible.BathorysGraveland2 said:
I mean sure the voice acting is hilariously laughable, and the combat can seem a tad broken at times, but it's got a huge(as you mentioned) world full of quests and places to explore. That's all I want out of games like that.
Well, I played the game back when it was still newly released... fucking nightmare. It deserved all the negative shit it had thrown at it. But the developer is hardly to blame, they were rushed by their publisher to try and cash in on Oblivion's success, so they didn't get all the time they needed. It's one of those sad cases of what could have been, you know? Well, community patches have at least made it playable.piinyouri said:
I don't mind the voice acting, really. It's no worse than Skyrim's. The characters aren't meant to be Mass Effect-esque characters that you're supposed to care about, nor is the story and setting meant to inspire emotions, so mediocre voice acting is quite okay for me. At least it isn't god awfully terrible.
As for the combat, provided you have community patch's "Alternative AI" turned on, it's really, really fun. The original vanilla game, and if you have Alt. AI turned off, is really just about spamming the left mouse button. With Alt. AI on, it's a lot more tactical. Different weapons are useful for different situations, and all fighting styles are now actually viable. In my current playthrough, I'm using duel wielding for the first time and it's actually very, very powerful once you learn how to use it. Spears and halberds are also useful against multiple animals/monsters due to its long reach. A lot of the combat is about reading your enemies movements, and then reacting to them. Terrain also has a large role, as you don't want to be fighting with a hill at your back. Things like this, I think, actually turn it into a surprisingly fun and complex melee system. Though as I said, in vanilla, it was a spam-fest atrocious mess, not to mention wolves and the like could stunlock you to death. It really is quite amazing what the community patch has done.
Sorry for the rather lengthy post, I can get a little passionate over Gothic games.
It is literally the best game I have ever played. It has its issues, but the biggest ones are from not understanding that it's a RPG when you first pick it up, because the whole FPS feel to it throws a lot of people.indrak said:
As a RPG though, I found its character building system far more rewarding to mess with than most other RPGs. Every action you take (aside from plain old walking) has a skill tied to it, and the more you do it, the better you get at it. Your character eventually molds itself to your playstyle as the skills you use most become the best parts of your character. You then get to challenge yourself by working on the parts that are against your play style, and your character becomes even more rounded for it.
Of course you can just buy training too, but that took the fun out of it for me.
EDIT: I assume you've heard people rave about the game's world before, but in case you haven't, billing the game as a good character building game is selling the game short. That's just one of the parts that makes a better whole.
Been a while since I played ME1, but I recall that the aiming at least was intentionally bad at the start and it was hard to hit anything reliably. Your stability with a weapon gradually improved as you sunk more ranks into the corresponding skill. They got away from that in ME2/3 - aiming was pretty straightforward as in a normal FPS, and the extra ranks gave you damage bonuses or unlocked special abilities.indrak said:
I know how WW was acquired. There might've been a sequel, there might not have, but once CCP owned the IP there was never the possibility, which was a shame. I know they're developing an MMO, but I won't play any CCP game as they allow hackers to get access to their customers' accounts and rather than help the loyal, paying customer they allow the hackers to get away with it.DoPo said:
This is a flawed reasoning, since as I said, there wouldn't have been a sequel. No possibility there. Yeah, in very broad technical sense there could have been, as in a game is able to be made, but then again, after the CCP merger, we have the EXACT SAME possibility. Yeah, in a very broad technical sense a game is able to be made. I don't see anything different now. Heck, if anything there is more of a chance now than before, as CCP are a game development company and they could either make it themselves or subcontract it, whereas White Wolf wouldn't have bothered at all.KingsGambit said:
By the way, there is that fan-made sequel-like thingie, Requiem of the Night. The dev made a kickstarter [http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2144679402/requiem-of-the-night-a-modern-nights-vampire-video?ref=live] but it was shut down by WW. And with good reason - it was blatantly advertised as a Bloodlines successor, not to mention it absolutely used the oWoD and everything without a license, plus the gameplay trailers shown had the (male) Nosferatu PC from Bloodlines. I've got no idea what happened to the project afterwards, though, the website [http://requiemofthenight.com/] appears to be dead, but last I heard from the guy (when the kickstarter got shut down) he was going to look for another way to release the game. I guarantee that the same would have happened even if CCP weren't involved.
I see people have already stated Vampire but let me add to the noise, VAMPIRE. I usually play that game once or twice a year every year, I can never get sick of it.
Another one I am not sure I would recommend but I do enjoy is winter voices. You play as a woman who's father just died, and the turned based combat is you fighting your emotions, doubts, and fears, and the skill tree is different ways of dealing with those emotions etc......
Its....... not for everyone, but it has a demo so there's no harm in at least trying it. The original game and all its episodes are around 8 dollars on steam at the moment if you find you like it.
Another one I am not sure I would recommend but I do enjoy is winter voices. You play as a woman who's father just died, and the turned based combat is you fighting your emotions, doubts, and fears, and the skill tree is different ways of dealing with those emotions etc......
Its....... not for everyone, but it has a demo so there's no harm in at least trying it. The original game and all its episodes are around 8 dollars on steam at the moment if you find you like it.