You guys have guns in your Wal-Marts in the States. We don't up here in Canada.
These kids could've stolen the gun they used from the back of the loading dock. Guns are too accessible in the States.
Sounds like a valid argument to me.
The suspects' age doesn't matter true, but the fact that guns are extremely accessible in the States still leads to massive problems.
one, no they dont put guns in walmarts like that. they have a seperate system of loading that involves security gaurds.
two, they could have still gotten them from across the border which might as well be non existant.
three, even so, the murder rate is dropping and out of all the gun crimes committed it's dwafed by the amount they are used to prevent crime, reported at 2 million times and year but thought to be another 2 million that go unreported so it roughly around 4 million times a year a gun prevents crime or saves lives. so the good outweighs bad.
four, DC had a gun ban and crime shot up 300 percent, gun ban was abolished and crime went down. so yeah, guns are not the problem. fucking criminals that would have them either way are the problem.
1. The fact that guns are in Wal-Marts anyways bugs me. The parents of these kids could've bought the gun and could've been just taken the gun due to negligent gun care.
2. I highly doubt that 13-16 years old are getting guns from across the border to rob a Nintendo DS. I also highly doubt that 13-16 year olds are going up to buy these guns from actual criminals.
3. You can pull all of the, "dropping rate" of gun crime you want. Statistics show that the U.S. has literally at least 20 times the amount of gun crimes than the next 1st world country being Germany. (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms)
The U.S. is literally the only 1st world country in the top 5 most gun crimes per year, per country. The other top 11 countries are 3rd world countries. Accessibility to guns IS the problem.
The US has over 9000 gun crimes per year. Canada has 144, and we're just next door. Canada has strict gun laws in place, the US does not. Explain to me how guns aren't the problem here?
1.how many times have cops lost their guns, or how about the government losing HUNDREDS OF ASSAULT RIFLES in a stupid operation? quite frankly, THANK JESUS they sell guns in a wal mart so people can fucking defend them selves when shit hits the fan! also, they sell shot guns and rifles for hunting, not really a criminals choice.
2. dude, eight year olds can get guns from criminals, and HELLO~O we border mexico who is haveing a literal WAR with cartels who smuggle humans, drugs, and GUNS in to this country like crazy!
3. Thats for one is not true, (and ive seen that website before and it disregards other ifo) its about population. when you look at percent of the country that is harmed by guns, its about the same as European countries.
Also, Switzerland has near identical gun laws and doesn't have near as much crime. why is that? for 1, the US has 300 million citizens. 2 Swiss. is borders by European countries, so not much of a smuggling operation there, huh? 3 we have crazy ass gang members who run up in peoples houses to steal for drug money, and they have the ability to get guns illegally, either stolen or via mexico. Registered law abiding citizens counts for very little of the gun crime, most is gang on gang violence. Im not even getting into illegal immigrants. You could remove every legal access to guns from civilians and you know what you get? CRIMINALS WITH GUNS!!!! these are people who sell drugs and pimp women, they can get there hands on some boom sticks! and even more illegal guns would come in because the US would end up haveing a higher demand for it! not to mention an increase in home robberies and muggings. and a shit ton of people walking WITH KNIVES!!! and knives are easier to hide!
the reason why Canada doesn't suffer like the US is because the US has 300 million, Canada has 30 million people spread out. No huge cities like us, no low income urban areas, and no body want to tread all the way to Canada to sell guns and drugs where their is little demand for it. Unfortunately, America doesn't have that luxury, we have the right to bear arms so we can keep criminals at bay, so we keep our increasingly over extending government in check, and for DAMN sure to keep other countries from invading us because EVERYONE FUCKING HATES US!!!
and as i stated before, every time a city bans fire arms (which is illegal) crime increases MASSIVELY! in fact chicago became the center of a supreme court hearing that stated that gun bans were unconstitutional because people had to watch a poor kid get beaten to death, he wasn't a gang member. he was an honor roll student! and some gang members beat him to death, the cops couldn't react in time (note, it takes 4 minutes on average for cops to show up at the scene) and no one could do anything to stop them, no one could defend them selves.
But, i wont change your mind,i know i wont, i'm wasting time. the left wing media will always make it look bad, always not reporting on the 4 million times a gun was used to prevent crime and murder, or how a woman stopped her self from being raped by pack a hand gun in her purse. always blaming a simple tool, for something cause by other issues, like poor education, illegal immigration, the drug problem. and in the end...who suffers? criminals? no. Innocent people who don't commit crimes, all 80 million (that's just the registered ones) normal people who either hunt, collect, or feel the need to protect them selves and their family are going to suffer while gang members who wont give up their weapons will take advantage of the situation and innocent people are going to get hurt or killed.
