Grand Theft Auto 5 Review - People Suck
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Oh boy, not a perfect score, this is not gonna end well I fear.
EVERYONE, TAKE SHELTER.
EDIT:
Just one thing I forgot to add: So "killing not being fun but actually unpleasant" is NOT pushing the boundaries of video-games?
Are you saying that we should STRIVE for mindless run-and-gun violence in video-games instead of an immersive experience with a narrative that actually gives killing some wheight?
EVERYONE, TAKE SHELTER.
EDIT:
Just one thing I forgot to add: So "killing not being fun but actually unpleasant" is NOT pushing the boundaries of video-games?
Are you saying that we should STRIVE for mindless run-and-gun violence in video-games instead of an immersive experience with a narrative that actually gives killing some wheight?
That's a shame. And I was worried that the storyline would go that way. Still, worth a look I suppose in a couple of weeks but now I'm in no hurry for it.
Oh boy, this is gonna end well.
Guys, just remember. A 3.5 out of 5 translates to a 7 out of 10. A 7 out of 10 is still pretty good, you know.
Guys, just remember. A 3.5 out of 5 translates to a 7 out of 10. A 7 out of 10 is still pretty good, you know.
I think you are missing the point, the original GTA was purely that. A scumbag criminal who would do anything for $$$, so in that sense, in my mind anyway, it is getting back to the original ethos of the game. As much as I like a good story I found the more cut scenes I had to sit through in GTA IV, the less I cared about the story. It's about balance, so I will be curious to see how this game pans out.
Ooh, 3.5
Incoming flame war, no opinions allowed.
Edit: So basically it's Saint's Row 3 but with none of the wackiness? That may not necessarily be a bad thing, may check out when PC version comes out.
Incoming flame war, no opinions allowed.
Edit: So basically it's Saint's Row 3 but with none of the wackiness? That may not necessarily be a bad thing, may check out when PC version comes out.
Oh man, just criminals with no real motivation? Good review, that does ding it for me.
Considering how often I stop playing and just cruise around though, it may not concern me that much.
Considering how often I stop playing and just cruise around though, it may not concern me that much.
Interesting review, thanks. Hadn't expected it to be criticised in this manner. Will await hopeful PC release and then decide whether it's worth full-price purchase or is Steam sale material.
Jim Sterling gave it 9/10 on Destructoid, obviously Greg Tito doesn't know what he's talking about!!!
And a tough week for the mods gets even harder. XD
But the criticisms that you've made sound valid enough, so I can't particularly fault the score you gave it, at least until I get round to trying the game out myself.
But the criticisms that you've made sound valid enough, so I can't particularly fault the score you gave it, at least until I get round to trying the game out myself.
Question, IS there some sort of Checkpoint system with the missions?
If not, I'm going to skip this game all together.
I HATE having to drive for 10 minutes to the same fucking place, with the same fucking dialogue, for the 4th fucking time, because I got shot while I was trying to find cover, but instead just bumped into stuff in GTA 4.
If not, I'm going to skip this game all together.
I HATE having to drive for 10 minutes to the same fucking place, with the same fucking dialogue, for the 4th fucking time, because I got shot while I was trying to find cover, but instead just bumped into stuff in GTA 4.
Thanks for an honest review, Greg. I, of course, haven't played the game yet but just seeing footage of it and hearing about it gave me the same impression you've come to after your time with the game. On a technical level, it may be a game I could see myself playing and enjoying, but I just don't want to play it. Take Rockstar's recent penchant for super dramatized and ponderous stories and add in characters I would never want to embody and you have a game that just doesn't interest me at all even if it has many other values.
So, they addressed the ludonarrative dissonance from the previous titles by actually making the characters terrible people. I don't see a problem there. Niko was especially weird to play as. I don't see why I should think the characters in GTA have any motivation for doing terrible things because I'll spend most of my time doing really terrible things for no good reason. The games have always about creating mayhem and seeing how the game reacts to the terrible things you do. Matching the characters to the gameplay should be a good thing.
I guess they could have gone the Red Dead route. I actually played that game as a "good" guy because John Marshton was a "good" man.
It seems like the score is based too heavily on the game being a movie that you didn't like very much because you couldn't care about the reprehensible characters. But this is a game about being reprehensible. It sounded like the game part was great.
I guess they could have gone the Red Dead route. I actually played that game as a "good" guy because John Marshton was a "good" man.
It seems like the score is based too heavily on the game being a movie that you didn't like very much because you couldn't care about the reprehensible characters. But this is a game about being reprehensible. It sounded like the game part was great.
This is the internet and the gaming industry my old friend, so obviously if anything is below a 9/10 then it's the worst game ever and the review was completely unfair and biased so the reviewer must be burned. XDSassafrass said:
OT: I've been watching a playthrough of the game on Game Anyone for the last couple of days (the person doing it received a reviewer's copy of the game) and it does look decent, but then again I never really thought that GTA IV was a 9/10 game per say since the genre is not my cup of tea a lot of the time. This seems like a fair review overall really.
Now to run before the flames get any higher.
the videogame equivalent to phoney gangster rap.
"Mature" content in the imgination of 13 year old.
"And while the narrative is as morally reprehensible as ever, the underlying intelligence backing up the wanton immaturity manages to keep GTA V treading the line of acceptable."D'toid
"Mature" content in the imgination of 13 year old.
"And while the narrative is as morally reprehensible as ever, the underlying intelligence backing up the wanton immaturity manages to keep GTA V treading the line of acceptable."D'toid
True, and on the other end of the scale, if the review is a ten, the review has obviously been bought out and has no class. XDNeronium said:
Anyways, seeing the type of posts this thread is getting already, I'm out. Enjoy arguing about the fact DA2 got a higher score than this and how Greg's opinions are apparently wrong, everyone.
If someone unironically brings up the DA2 review, I will headslam them until they understand the concept of "Not Much Is Objective In Game Reviewing God Dammit".
I think this review is perfectly valid in its criticisms. In a game as ostensibly gritty and "realistic" as GTA, I can't say I'd be comfortable playing the World's Most Awful Person. In Saints Row, at least there's a very effect Shield of Ludicrousness in effect.
Besides, he mentioned that various aspects of the game are "very fun", and the review left me wanting to play for the sandbox aspect, if not the story. That's a "good review", is it not?
Also, from what I'm reading, I'm not sure that "letting the gang member voice actors say whatever" was a great idea after all.
I think this review is perfectly valid in its criticisms. In a game as ostensibly gritty and "realistic" as GTA, I can't say I'd be comfortable playing the World's Most Awful Person. In Saints Row, at least there's a very effect Shield of Ludicrousness in effect.
Besides, he mentioned that various aspects of the game are "very fun", and the review left me wanting to play for the sandbox aspect, if not the story. That's a "good review", is it not?
Also, from what I'm reading, I'm not sure that "letting the gang member voice actors say whatever" was a great idea after all.
The game itself is perfectly fine yet the author of the review had a problem with it on a moral grounding.
Yep, this will certainly end well.
Yep, this will certainly end well.