Graphical Effects Missing on Wii Metroid Prime

[Pendragon9]

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No offense, but I said I was finished with the topic. It was just my opinion that it was stupid they didn't even offer the chance. I happened to like Prime's controls, and if they were so bad, it would've been a horrible game and they would not have made a sequel.

But hey. If you have a different opinion, go right ahead. I'm not gonna force my opinion on you. And if I have, I'm sorry. But I'm not excusing Nintendo.

 

[Flying-Emu]

But hey. If you have a different opinion, go right ahead. I'm not gonna force my opinion on you. And if I have, I'm sorry. But I'm not excusing Nintendo.

Oh that's perfectly fine. But don't throw around "fanboy" like some kind of insult simply because I offer evidence that opposes your opinion.

All I ask is a little courtesy.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Whatever happened to having easily accessible games for the people who wanna get into gaming? Yeesh, now Nintendo is backstabbing it's audience once again. All the more reason to hate them.

How is it easier for Wii Owners, many of which who don't HAVE a Gamecube controller, to use a Gamecube controller? Have you even played Corruption? It's by far superior to Prime's controls, which were, to be frank, shit. It's not the dual-stick control. The Prime controls are fucking terrible, and you want them to put them into a repackage... when the repackage is on a system that doesn't primarily use that controller anymore...

Look this all comes down to personal preference.

I played all 3 Prime games. I thought the controls in Corruption were terrible. I hated them, but I loved the controls in the other 2 games. I just don't like how they used the Wiimote in Corruption, so I prefer the Gamecube controller.

Now my opinion on Corruption's controls is just a result of my personal bias, but how can you honestly say that the controls to Prime were terrible?

 

[fletch_talon]

Whatever happened to having easily accessible games for the people who wanna get into gaming? Yeesh, now Nintendo is backstabbing it's audience once again. All the more reason to hate them.

How is it easier for Wii Owners, many of which who don't HAVE a Gamecube controller, to use a Gamecube controller? Have you even played Corruption? It's by far superior to Prime's controls, which were, to be frank, shit. It's not the dual-stick control. The Prime controls are fucking terrible, and you want them to put them into a repackage... when the repackage is on a system that doesn't primarily use that controller anymore...

Look this all comes down to personal preference.

I played all 3 Prime games. I thought the controls in Corruption were terrible. I hated them, but I loved the controls in the other 2 games. I just don't like how they used the Wiimote in Corruption, so I prefer the Gamecube controller.

Now my opinion on Corruption's controls is just a result of my personal bias, but how can you honestly say that the controls to Prime were terrible?

The same way you can say the same of corruption. Personal bias, preferences. In my opinion there was nothing wrong with corruption's controls but personally I dislike thumbstick aiming.

Seems pretty simple to be honest, you have your opinion, I have mine. I've never said one was more valid than the other, all I've said is that the Wii controls are easier for people new to gaming, and that they are the default control form for Wii games.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Whatever happened to having easily accessible games for the people who wanna get into gaming? Yeesh, now Nintendo is backstabbing it's audience once again. All the more reason to hate them.

How is it easier for Wii Owners, many of which who don't HAVE a Gamecube controller, to use a Gamecube controller? Have you even played Corruption? It's by far superior to Prime's controls, which were, to be frank, shit. It's not the dual-stick control. The Prime controls are fucking terrible, and you want them to put them into a repackage... when the repackage is on a system that doesn't primarily use that controller anymore...

Look this all comes down to personal preference.

I played all 3 Prime games. I thought the controls in Corruption were terrible. I hated them, but I loved the controls in the other 2 games. I just don't like how they used the Wiimote in Corruption, so I prefer the Gamecube controller.

Now my opinion on Corruption's controls is just a result of my personal bias, but how can you honestly say that the controls to Prime were terrible?

The same way you can say the same of corruption. Personal bias, preferences. In my opinion there was nothing wrong with corruption's controls but personally I dislike thumbstick aiming.

Seems pretty simple to be honest, you have your opinion, I have mine. I've never said one was more valid than the other, all I've said is that the Wii controls are easier for people new to gaming, and that they are the default control form for Wii games.

I agree with what you have said. However, this just makes me think that they should have kept in the Gamecube controls just to satisfy everyone. They did that when they made Brawl, which was a completely new game. So why not do the same for the Metroid Prime Trilogy?

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Isn't the Wii a slightly less powerful Gamecube with a gimicky new controller anyway?

I don't want to be that guy but isn't it possible that the Wii's gimicky new controller is the reason Wii games aren't as pretty as some of the titles on Gamecube? Resident Evil 4 for example, was one of the Gamecubes best looking games [and arguably one of the best games for that platform] Are there any Wii games that look as good as RE4?

 

[scotth266]

I can understand some minor graphical changes, but not allowing people to use the Gamecube controls, when the controls were already made, as an option, is rather silly of Nintendo. I also don't really GET the graphical reduction, even though it's likely minute unless pointed out.

(Youtube hates me today, so I can't see the comparison vid.)

 

[Treblaine]

Nintendo's spending all their money on casual games, and since they don't have any hard-core games for this year, they threw this together to try their hardest to compete with the PS3 and 360 price drops

*ahem*

Spoiler: I

Spoiler: beg

Spoiler: to differ

Anyway I'm pretty sure this is something that happened in the emulation process. The unrealistically-minded people probably thought they were going to rebuild the first two games from the ground up, because that happens all the time in the industry, right?

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no it doesn't

LOL!

You think Excite Bots is a hardcore game!

And excuse me but Nintendo put zero effort into Punch Out and New Super Mario Bros Wii is nothing but a lazy port of Mario Bros DS.

 

[StercusCaput]

Nintendo's spending all their money on casual games, and since they don't have any hard-core games for this year, they threw this together to try their hardest to compete with the PS3 and 360 price drops

Too bad Nintendo didn't have to invest much since all three of these Metroid games are made by Retro Studios. Not only that, these Metroid games are pretty much ALL this company does at the moment. So I would have to respectfully disagree with your reasoning and logic here.

Dev video: http://www.viddler.com/explore/Joystiq/videos/1633/

 

[StercusCaput]

Isn't the Wii a slightly less powerful Gamecube with a gimicky new controller anyway?

The Wii is roughly 1.5 to 2 times as powerful as its predecessor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii

So, no, it is actually more powerful than the Gamecube.

 

[Osaka-chaness]

The graphical issues, though they bug me, pale in comparison to something else.Why can you only play this with the Wiimote? What. The. Hell.

What if someone never played Prime before and they want to try it without the Wiimote? They should at least make it an option.

Even though Corruption's controls (and therefore the new Prime and Echoes controls) were incredibly highly praised and were considered one of the best parts of the title?

You know that doesn't make it right. I still want to play it without the damn Wiimote.

Is that so much to ask? Hmm? Am I being an evil monster because I don' want to play it like that?

Yeesh, get the fanboy out of your ears and stop trying to defend them. You sicken me.

nothing is stopping you getting the original gamecube games with the old controls...

Oh, of course, because it was so much harder for them to put Gamecube controls on this Wii port. And of course it's so easy to find a Gamecube game these days without them trying to bury them in Wiimote whoring out.

Say all you want. You're not changing my mind on this. It was a dumb move by Nintendo, and that's it.

Whatever happened to having easily accessible games for the people who wanna get into gaming? Yeesh, now Nintendo is backstabbing it's audience once again. All the more reason to hate them.

Easily accessible games for people who want to get into gaming... how does not adding GC controls to MPT in any way diminish the accuracy of that statement.
The Wiimote comes packaged with the Wii, the gamecube/classic controllers do not and likely serve little to no purpose to people just getting into gaming because they don't know of their existence.
And lets not even start on which is easier to use... actually lets.
What do you think is easier to pick up:
Point at thing you want to die and move with this control stick
or
Move with this control stick and then attempt to precisely aim with this little control stick. No... thats the movement one and thats the aiming one... Behind you... No not with that one.

Yes I am one of those people who finds console FPS to be awkward when compared to mouse/keyboard. The Wii provides a closer control scheme to what I believe is the easiest FPS controls.

Yes your preference to the other style of control is valid, and it would have been nice if they'd given people like yourself the option... but they didn't. It might take a little getting used to, but I refuse to believe that anyone could find the Wii controls harder to use than the twin thumbstick style of other consoles...

Seriously... point and shoot.

Quick problem with your logic. The Wiimote is incredibly flawed still when it comes to "pointing and shooting". Even the Wii motion + doesn't alleviate all the problems it has. Sometimes it bugs out and aims in the wrong direction, sometimes it doesn't respond, take your pic of the problems that have arisen lately. Even when I tasted out Super PAper Mario on the Wii at gamestop (and again at a friend's house) I think I died a good amount of times to tell me that the Wii controls sucked to me.

And it's funny. Now you're sounding like a PC snob. "LOL ALL CONSOL CONTRULS R STOOPID! DUR HUR"

Damnit, I mean what is with all of you? Am I not allowed a valid complaint? Just more reason to hate Nintendo and it's fanboys.

Excuse me. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy (I like Sony over all of them) and even I think your complaining about the WII PORT of the series not letting you to use the Gamecube controller is ridiculous. They GC versions of the games are NOT hard to find at all. In fact, I found about 3 or 4 copies of EACH at Gamestop here last time I looked. and for 5 dollars no less. Seriously...just because some games allow you to use the GC controller, doesn't mean all of them do.

As for the graphical effects, while I'll miss the ice freezing over the cannon, as long as I have the raindrops forming on the visor when I walk in the Tallon Overworld, I'm happy. Don't forget that while the disc itself allows for more memory (if you didn't notice it, the MP Trilogy disc is darker than most other Wii games (save for Brawl, which has the same) which is because it has an extra layer), they can't keep EVERYTHING since there's two other games with their own effects. You have to cut some smaller things out to allow some bigger things. As long as the gameplay is great, the graphics shouldn't matter a ton right? >.>

 

[Inco]

They GC versions of the games are NOT hard to find at all. In fact, I found about 3 or 4 copies of EACH at Gamestop here last time I looked. and for 5 dollars no less. Seriously...just because some games allow you to use the GC controller, doesn't mean all of them do.

I beg to differ, i cannot find the first two games anywhere. They sold out the pre owned copies quickly due to high demand and no supply (damn you discontinued stock!)

 

[Osaka-chaness]

They GC versions of the games are NOT hard to find at all. In fact, I found about 3 or 4 copies of EACH at Gamestop here last time I looked. and for 5 dollars no less. Seriously...just because some games allow you to use the GC controller, doesn't mean all of them do.

I beg to differ, i cannot find the first two games anywhere. They sold out the pre owned copies quickly due to high demand and no supply (damn you discontinued stock!)

Ah...well...nevermind? ^^; I'm sure they're around somewhere though....

 

[Schlorgan]

Nintendo's spending all their money on casual games, and since they don't have any hard-core games for this year, they threw this together to try their hardest to compete with the PS3 and 360 price drops

Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Dead Space Extraction
Cursed Mountain
Final Fnatasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
Fragile
Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles
Valhalla Knights

And how many of those titles are you going to buy?

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Nintendo's spending all their money on casual games, and since they don't have any hard-core games for this year, they threw this together to try their hardest to compete with the PS3 and 360 price drops

Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Dead Space Extraction
Cursed Mountain
Final Fnatasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
Fragile
Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles
Valhalla Knights

And how many of those titles are you going to buy?

Six.