GREEDo Shoots First

[Woodsey]

Uh, you've given them another chance to blame Lucas for world poverty...

I'm leaving before I (metaphorically) punch a purist.

I don't agree, and to be honest I think most of the complaints about the special edition of Star Wars is just pointless nitpicking and whining.

While Han not shooting first may make him seem slightly less unpredictable it doesn't really do anything to impact is overall character. I saw the special edition first, and then years later decided to check out the originals after hearing the Star Wars fanboys talk about how Lucas "had ruined Star Wars" with his Special edition, only to find myself watching the same movies again only with shitty special effects and some missing scenes.

People are being fooled by nostalgia, or they are just being fanboys. And then of course there are also those who enjoy bashing Lucas whenever they can, so they will bash the special edition as well.

I could have ravenous sex with you right now.

I agree.

I most definitely don't.

Yes, but badger.

 

[Smokescreen]

Final panel also appropriate to the first viewing of The Phantom Menance.

 

[Feralbreed]

This was unfunny and badly drawn like always.

 

[WakeTheDead1]

this is star wars made by someone using paper, this is probably better than the 3d film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3xbcJBUxY

 

[faspxina]

You don't have to go all the way to Star Wars Fandom to consider this change in the scene stupid. Here are two other reasons:

-Any re-release was in an attempt to make money. Do you think they earned that money by adding an additonal blast?

-That Greedo is supposed to be a professional killer. Yet he manages to NOT KILL a person sitting across a table from him... with a one-hit-kill-weapon... That's just silly. Not silly in the Ewooks way, but silly in the "Do you thing we are stupid?"-way.

Greedo tried to shoot Solo's ear off. Luckily, Solo shifted his head slightly to the right... yep.

It really doesn't matter though, because the blasters will be all replaced by walkie-talkies.

 

[xscoot]

Is this really news? Like, I heard about this years ago.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Lupin the Third reference? Crazy!

 

[The Wooster]

Lupin the Third reference? Crazy!

There is?

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Lupin the Third reference? Crazy!

There is?

...was it not? A spring loaded boxing glove coming out of Han's crotch? That is what that is, is it not?

 

[Madara XIII]

Lucas is releaseing Star Wars in 3D. Films that weren't recorded with 3D technology are getting converted into 3D. Now let your mind wander over other recent releases that were converted into 3D. This won't be the Star Wars Avatar, this will be the Star Wars Clash of the Titans...

Still don't understand the significance of whatsisface shooting first or not. Why does it matter?

In the original release, Han Solo shot Greedo while they were talking. It set him up as a badass. In the "updated" version, Lucas decided that it made Han look too mean and edited the scene so Greedo shoots at Han first, and then Han fires back in self defence. It was the principle of the thing that pissed people off. There was no need for the change, nobody was bothered and it was basically a symbol of Lucas doing everything waaaay to family friendly.

Whoa, I just remembered I still have my old VHS tapes of Starwars...Well Ill be darned though, I forgot Han Shot first

Thnx for clarifying that up for me.

 

[The Wooster]

Lupin the Third reference? Crazy!

There is?

...was it not? A spring loaded boxing glove coming out of Han's crotch? That is what that is, is it not?

Actually he was supposed to be shooting it out of his gun. I'll have to talk to Cory about that one. Which film does he shoot a boxing glove out of his crotch though? I can't remember that one.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Lupin the Third reference? Crazy!

There is?

...was it not? A spring loaded boxing glove coming out of Han's crotch? That is what that is, is it not?

Actually he was supposed to be shooting it out of his gun. I'll have to talk to Cory about that one. Which film does he shoot a boxing glove out of his crotch though? I can't remember that one.

It was the opening cinematic ending for the series, I believe, where Lupin is diving for a girl's lovelies, and she deploys a spring-powered boxing glove from beneath a towel from between her legs, knocking him away. I thought that's what it was that Han was doing.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Lupin the Third reference? Crazy!

There is?

...was it not? A spring loaded boxing glove coming out of Han's crotch? That is what that is, is it not?

Actually he was supposed to be shooting it out of his gun. I'll have to talk to Cory about that one. Which film does he shoot a boxing glove out of his crotch though? I can't remember that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm99tmzmXkk

There's the video I was thinking of. It's after they introduce Lupin.

 

[Plurralbles]

You will never love a woman as much as George Lucas hates his fans.

basically. God damn it. Way to make your characters ever the more shitty, lucas.

Characterization in the prequel trilogy is terrible.

 

[SturmDolch]

I wasn't really a fan of these comics because I never gave them a chance. But now, after this one, I read through all of them today. Very funny! I wish they were older so that there could be more.

I liked this one. I was already laughing and then suddenly the fist pops out. xD

 

[Ghengis John]

Still don't understand the significance of whatsisface shooting first or not. Why does it matter?

Because it turns Solo in to a justified wimp instead of a dangerous outlaw? I guess...

Pretty much. It defines Han's character for the first film. When he shoots first it shows that he is dangerous and unpredictable. Therefore Luke and Obi Wan have chosen the wrong person to protect them. It brings in uncertainty and doubt, and makes his transformation at the end of the film much more important.

This is precisely why I've come to view the change as wrong. I didn't have an ardent reaction of fanboy rage upon seeing the scene altered. It did just look funny but I was fine with it. On subsequently reviewing the movie though and having some time to chew over it it weakens the whole character and the premise of the danger solo represents as a whole. And that isn't just "nostalgia blinding me". One change can have a huge impact on a film, like the decision to include Commodus's scene with his father's bust in Gladiator or the decision to Go back to the original ending for Bladerunner.

Still don't understand the significance of whatsisface shooting first or not. Why does it matter?

Because it turns Solo in to a justified wimp instead of a dangerous outlaw? I guess...

Pretty much. It defines Han's character for the first film. When he shoots first it shows that he is dangerous and unpredictable. Therefore Luke and Obi Wan have chosen the wrong person to protect them. It brings in uncertainty and doubt, and makes his transformation at the end of the film much more important.

I don't agree, and to be honest I think most of the complaints about the special edition of Star Wars is just pointless nitpicking and whining.

While Han not shooting first may make him seem slightly less unpredictable it doesn't really do anything to impact is overall character. I saw the special edition first, and then years later decided to check out the originals after hearing the Star Wars fanboys talk about how Lucas "had ruined Star Wars" with his Special edition, only to find myself watching the same movies again only with shitty special effects and some missing scenes.

People are being fooled by nostalgia, or they are just being fanboys. And then of course there are also those who enjoy bashing Lucas whenever they can, so they will bash the special edition as well.

I didn't have an ardent reaction of fanboy rage upon seeing the scene altered. It did just look funny the way it's edited but I was fine with it. On subsequently reviewing the movie though and having some time to chew over the change it weakens the character and the premise of the danger solo represents as a whole. And that isn't just "nostalgia blinding me". One change can have a huge impact on a film, like the decision to include Commodus's scene with his father's bust in Gladiator or the decision to go back to the original ending for Bladerunner. You walked into your viewing with the opinion that the people complaining were "just fanboys". You were biased from the start, don't feign objectivity.

Ultimately they are Lucas's films. You won't hear me griping that they "belong to the people" or some bullshit. Fanboys say these things and it does make them harder to take seriously. But for what it's worth even a broken clock is right twice a day. They belong to George Lucas and that means he can change them however he wants. So long as I'm free to have the opinion that sometimes those changes were unnecessary or for the worse.

 

[BenzSmoke]

I'm glad I have the original movies on video.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Han shoots first in my heart =]
and that's all that matters