Guess the Hardware Specs for the New Consoles and Their Release Games!

[Mr. Omega]

Tech: It'll probablybe some strange combination customized in an odd way.

Games:
CoD, obviously.
Halo 5 and 6 will be the system movers for the NextBox.
The PS4 will have no games again. Jk, jk, but in all seriousness, the closest I can think of that is speculated is God of War 4.

Really, I'm curious as to what MS and Sony will try and do. Contrary to what most of the PC Gamers claim, I don't think the difference in graphics is drastic enough to justify a whole new console generation. Is it there? Oh hell yeah it is, you'd have to be dumb not to acknowledge that. But that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the difference that is there is enough to justify having to make consumers buy a new console.

I'll be blunt, if I had a choice between staying where we are now or having to pay what will likely be more than $500 so that maybe games can end up looking like Battlefield 3 on the highest settings, I'd stay where we are right now.

The thing is, what can MS and Sony do on a new console that A: Will justify the price, B: won't risk having all of their fans start calling them "gimmicks" (a phrase they love to throw at even the slightest provocation) or C: Can't be done on their current console?

At least the WiiU had an excuse for it to be made. I'm not saying MS and Sony are in an impossible position, but there will likely be some backlash no matter what they do at this point.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Fu...fu...whaaaaaa? O_O Specs and peripherals plox.

CPU: i7 2600K - 4.7 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS P67 Sabertooth
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance
GPUS: SLI Palit GTX 580 1.5GB OC(natch)
Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow
Fans: 5x Xigmatek 120mm, 2x 200mm
PSU: Silverstone ST-85G
HD: Samsung 2TB Spinpoint
SSD: Corsair F60
Case: Modified NZXT Phantom
Dual Monitors now, triple soon for Nv Surround (natch, again)

Peripherals:
Logitech G930 Wireless headset
Logitech X230 Speakers (barely used anymore)

Cyborg V7 Keyboard
Cyborg R.A.T.9 (check out the video and prepare to change your pants afterwards)
Steelseries Qck+ pad.

Spoiler

Cashed up gamer

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I don't care what is in them and when they bring them out but can they put in enough power this time so I don't have lag on a console on a fucking single player game. I should not experience horrendous loading screens that act like stutter every 10 meters in Oblivion, the big battles in N3 or that stair part in Ninja Gaiden 2.

Just build them fucking right this time and no more over 60% failure bullshit. I may have been lucky with my 360 lasting 5 years without breakages but I know people who have gone through over 5 which thankfully and rightly MS gave for free.

Also we are still using MS please put a locking mechanism in your console and don't cheap out like a back alley whore. All those discs broken because you didn't include a locking mechanism would it have really been so expensive?

Another thing(this is more to MS than Sony and Nintendo) don't be so short sighted that you include Memory Cards and no HDD on your new next Gen console. The next console better come with at least 500+GB of memory and the ability to install games onto it so it doesn't like like WWIII in my 360.

 

[TheLastSamurai14]

WANT

You really weren't kidding when you said $3300. The only things I would really change are I'd swap the mouse out for a Naga, the keyboard for a Lycosa, and I'd get a Nostromo for macro-heavy gaming. I'm kind of a Razer fanboy, if you couldn't tell. Other than that, RAM seems a bit lacking in comparison to everything else, but still, beast system.

 

[ResonanceSD]

WANT

You really weren't kidding when you said $3300. The only things I would really change are I'd swap the mouse out for a Naga, the keyboard for a Lycosa, and I'd get a Nostromo for macro-heavy gaming. I'm kind of a Razer fanboy, if you couldn't tell. Other than that, RAM seems a bit lacking in comparison to everything else, but still, beast system.

Razer products get too many fingerprints, I hate them so much -_-

Also re:RAM, considering that with Nvidia surround or SLI turned on I can realistically only do one thing at a time, it's enough

Hell even with it turned off it's enough

 

[ResonanceSD]

From what I could tell you bought prebuilt i.e cheap, if you had spent the same on a custom built one it would have been better for gaming.

So what's the stance PC gamers? Can I get a good gaming pc for 600dollars? Or am I buying prebuilt junk and need to raise my price? Because it seems even you guys are of a split mind.

Consoles are not designed to compete with PCs. They are self contained, and not to mention we are just now seeing what the PS3 is capable of.

Yeah "Skyrim glitching up massively if played for too long" is definitely something that I want in a game system that's meant to be the be-all and end all of current gen hardware.


Check out my post at the bottom of page 1. That's a great system. Many parts can be subbed out or gotten rid of entirely if you want a "good" system for a lot less. You can save about $600 by removing one graphics card and the "K" series CPU and still have a kickass system.

 

[Twilight_guy]

I'm guess It will comparable to a high end PC right now which means its actual power will degrade over time as technology improves. Luckily it doesn't matter since the console games will be far more optimized then there PC counter-parts meaning that that little brick of old tech will outperform more powerful PCs anyways.

 

[TheLastSamurai14]

WANT

You really weren't kidding when you said $3300. The only things I would really change are I'd swap the mouse out for a Naga, the keyboard for a Lycosa, and I'd get a Nostromo for macro-heavy gaming. I'm kind of a Razer fanboy, if you couldn't tell. Other than that, RAM seems a bit lacking in comparison to everything else, but still, beast system.

Razer products get too many fingerprints, I hate them so much -_-

Also re:RAM, considering that with Nvidia surround or SLI turned on I can realistically only do one thing at a time, it's enough

Hell even with it turned off it's enough

I don't particularly care about fingerprints, so it's a non-issue for me.

I'm curious, though: What's nVidia Surround? I've never heard of it.

I'm guess It will comparable to a high end PC right now which means its actual power will degrade over time as technology improves. Luckily it doesn't matter since the console games will be far more optimized then there PC counter-parts meaning that that little brick of old tech will outperform more powerful PCs anyways.

Not to sound rude, but I don't think it will outperform even a moderately high-end PC when the next generation hits...the halfway mark, is my guess. Let me give you a very recent example: Skyrim doesn't perform nearly as well on my PS3 as on my PC, and some of the newer FPS games like Crysis 2 are the same way.

Spoiler: My basic PC specs

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 3.0 Ghz (overclocked to 3.5 Ghz)
RAM: 4GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 5770 1GB (slightly overclocked)

 

[ResonanceSD]

Yeah "Skyrim glitching up massively if played for too long" is definitely something that I want in a game system that's meant to be the be-all and end all of current gen hardware.


Check out my post at the bottom of page 1. That's a great system. Many parts can be subbed out or gotten rid of entirely if you want a "good" system for a lot less. You can save about $600 by removing one graphics card and the "K" series CPU and still have a kickass system.

I saw your system, and while I thought it was sexy and just might start the robot revolution, 3.3k on a gaming system is idiotic. You'll never have to update the thing, but it's idiotic.

As far as Skyrim goes, once again, we look at a game not designed for consoles, being played on consoles. Ports don't translate well (and yes, this is a port. Them coming out on the same day doesn't change anything), being that once again: self contained vs. upgradable.

http://n4g.com/news/781519/console-version-of-skyrim-bethesdas-lead-sku




Yeah, having an idea of what you're talking about generally helps. Skyrim is a console game ported to PCs.

Oh yes, and you say "idiotic", I say "long term investment".

 

[ResonanceSD]

WANT

You really weren't kidding when you said $3300. The only things I would really change are I'd swap the mouse out for a Naga, the keyboard for a Lycosa, and I'd get a Nostromo for macro-heavy gaming. I'm kind of a Razer fanboy, if you couldn't tell. Other than that, RAM seems a bit lacking in comparison to everything else, but still, beast system.

Razer products get too many fingerprints, I hate them so much -_-

Also re:RAM, considering that with Nvidia surround or SLI turned on I can realistically only do one thing at a time, it's enough

Hell even with it turned off it's enough

I don't particularly care about fingerprints, so it's a non-issue for me.

I'm curious, though: What's nVidia Surround? I've never heard of it.

This. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-surround-technology.html

Cyborg V7 Keyboard

Jesus man, you spend $3300 and get a rubber dome keyboard?

Really?

If you are going all out the last you can do is get a mechanical keyboard.

Lol, it looked cool. Mech keyboards are so dull.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

[snip

+1 for nice Avatar gif.

 

[TheLastSamurai14]

Oh, okay, so it's the nVidia equivalent to Eyefinity. Well, if you've only got 2 monitors, I hope they're the borderless ones. Otherwise, I pray for your sanity.

Oh, wait, you said you're getting a third for Surround. Derp.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Cyborg V7 Keyboard

Jesus man, you spend $3300 and get a rubber dome keyboard?

Really?

If you are going all out the last you can do is get a mechanical keyboard.

Lol, it looked cool. Mech keyboards are so dull.

I'll take useability over looks any day.

What made you go for the i7 over the i5? I'm guessing you do more than gaming.

What made you go for the Silver Arrow over the Noctua NH-D14?

Genuine questions.

Lol, I haven't encountered a single problem with the V7 so far.

i7 over an i5? Better overclocking headroom in terms of power, more default power.

Silver arrow? It hits lower temps than the Noctua D14 (i was tossing up between those two for a long time)

I went with the silver arrow, here's why.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150164574160703&set=a.494851240702.272975.107970870702&type=3&theater

Shot of my computer before I added the second GPU. It doesn't look much like that anymore, but that's what it looked like off the bench.

Notice the lack of a giant beige and brown horrible looking fan in the middle.

Also there's a perspex window on the side of my case, so I can see into it directly (standard, really). I would hate to see an ugly HS/F combo in the middle of that.

 

[ResonanceSD]

http://n4g.com/news/781519/console-version-of-skyrim-bethesdas-lead-sku

Yeah, having an idea of what you're talking about generally helps. Skyrim is a console game ported to PCs.

Oh yes, and you say "idiotic", I say "long term investment".

Well I'll be. Guess I was wrong on that regard. But that raises a problem then. It would still have nothing to do with the console wouldn't it? If it were the console, the patch would be applied to the console, but the patches to fix the issue are applied to the game. Which means it's not the PS3 hardware, it's the game itself.

As for idiotic vs. long term investment: Tomato, tomato really. 3.3k is a downpayment on a new apartment for me, or a used 97 Mustang. Or a terabyte HDD for my PS3 and countless games and a high end gaming PC for half the cost. Or a down payment on a chopper. Sweet sweet chopper.

If I made the kind of money that made 3.3k pc investment a reality, I might have done it. Who knows? But I'm 24, working jobs that don't tend to turn into careers. So perspective is one of the fickle things.

I'm 22 and I work for News Corporation's Australian wing. Doin' Fine.

And in terms of your proposition, the correct pronunciation is "Tomato"

It's 3.3k spent once, rather than $2000 spent twice or three times, and given the most basic NPV formula, you can see why it's a sound investment


EDIT: Didn't mean to come across as standoffish, rather, I wanted to highlight the fact that we have different priorities.

Yes, you're right, this is a huge luxury, and I treat it as such.

 

[guitarsniper]

Getting off of my chest my response to the whole PC gaming thing first. I play PC not because of the graphics, but because I like having a mouse and keyboard and I travel a lot so it's a lot easier for me to game on my laptop than to lug around a console and a TV.

I feel like the next gen of graphics doesn't need to be THAT much better, unless everything is starting to come out in 3D, which is a definite possibility. I'll admit that i don't know how much 3D will tax a graphics processor, so that might not be a huge issue for graphics. We're at the point where things are almost satisfactorily photorealistic that i feel like next-gen consoles will be a bit of a paradigm shift and be more of a kind of hub thingy. Consoles will already do netflix, but I feel like the next gen will probably have a built in web browser like Steam's pop up in game browser, and just basically have the goal of being one device to run everythning in the living room--movies, music, TV, and games. Sure, they'll probably also have significant updates to processors, RAM, etc, but it'll be a bigger change in how they're used. Digital Distribution will probably also be a bigger thing. That's just my guess.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Tell me, what do you run that needs an overclocked i7 rather than an overclocked i5. Was it worth the extra lump of money, I hope to god this wasn't just for gaming.



That and the SA is bulkier and apparently much more hassle to put together.



Is your PC just for gaming. If it's not then that's fine but an i7 is a waste for gaming. By that stage you are just spending cash for the sake of it.

Answers:

1) Triple monitors (soon), and two overclocked graphics cards, a 3D upgrade sometime next year is also in the works.

2) The Silver Arrow also has the distinction of not looking like a beige plastic piece of shit in the middle of my case.

3) Instead of using a TV, for anything, I use my PC, and also, it clocks to 4.9G stable. I was after a long-term machine for the next 5-10 years and I think you'll agree, I got it.


Was it worth it? Yes.

 

[ResonanceSD]

1. With triple monitors I would argue a beefy GPU with plenty of VRAM is more important. I doubt the i7 would improve your viewing experience any more than the i5.

2. So it's looks you are going for? Wow, anyway I like the noctua colour scheme. Not everything has to look "gamer".

3. I wouldn't be using that i7 in 10 years, hell within 2 Intel will have brought out Haswell which (going by the last few years) should stomp all over that i7 and have even more OC headroom.

I get you have the cash so you can splurge out but I don't think your priorities were right. There is no need for the i7 over the i5 and you went for a arguably overall worse cooler due to looks.

1) No CPU Bottlenecks, ever.

2) That's entirely subjective.


Also, in a gaming PC, I want shit to look "gamer" rather than "check out this new beige colour we thought of", did you even look at the pic link I posted? Please point out to me where the noctua colour scheme fits in.

3) In terms of gaming performance, the lead SKU is always going to be consoles, we know this. My system is far, far ahead of anything that's been released to date for a console or PC in terms of hardware "beefiness". Also, it will take such a long time to ever be "minimum system requirements" that it's laughable to consider.

EDIT: Oh yes, and the cooler. It's arguable "worse" at the high end, which my system never gets to due to the fact that I have 7 fans in it. + 2 on each GPU + 1 in the PSU. 50 degrees in vantage, about that in any real-world situation? Not seeing the downside here.

 

[neonsword13-ops]

I only ask that Persona 5 is not released for PS4.

I don't need to waste $300+ dollars to play one game.

I'm already doing that for the Vita.

 

[ResonanceSD]

1. Yes the i7 won't be bottlenecked for a long time but it won't be long enough to warrant getting it over the i5 and paying the extra cost. Well, your i7 will be outdated anyway when IB is out in 4 months with it's lovely die shrink, reduced power draw and increased clock speed.

2. Yeah, this is just subjective. I for one won't care if someone on he internet think's the colours in my PC clash.

3. http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/ASUS-MARS-II-Dual-GTX-580-3GB-Graphics-Card-Review/Metro-2033

Your dual GTX 580s are already on the brink of not maxing out games. Metro at 2560x1600 (less than the res of 3 monitors) only runs at 53 FPS average. If you don't intend to upgrade it's gonna be hard to keep up with those high end games in a year or 2.

Well, enjoy your PC.

1. Given that I bought my PC at the start of last year, I'm not sure what you're getting at with your IB fandom. Yes, all of those things are true, however, I'm not sure what your position is, do you buy hardware with the express intention to replace it as soon as it gets an update?

2. Subjectivity aside, please note my point which you ignored, the SA is as effective, if not better than a D14 at all real-world tasks. If your system is getting that hot for a long period of time, you sir, are doing something wrong.

3.Yeah, I think I'll be right given the number of games that are as demanding as M2033 areMetro 2033 and Crysis. The vast, vast majority of games will run at high specs for years to come.

4. Goes without saying doesn't it?

 

[ResonanceSD]

2. Subjectivity aside, please note my point which you ignored, the SA is as effective, if not better than a D14 at all real-world tasks. If your system is getting that hot for a long period of time, you sir, are doing something wrong.

This is the only point I care about now as the others are boring and probably won't end.

The NH-D14 is more compact and better at higher overclocks, the facts are in that link. The SA couldn't dissipate heat fast enough and shot to 100 degrees while the Noctua kept working, seems to me that overall the noctua is better. I'll take stability at high temps over a 0.8 degree win at lower clock speeds.

Lol, I got stable temps and performance running vantage at 4.7GHz.

50 degrees

And I was running stable at 4.9 for a while too. Temps were fine, only reason I lowered the clocks was the Vcore was far too high for CPU longevity. I'm not saying you shouldn't get the noctua, I don't actually care what you get. I'm just saying I got the SA for a whole raft of reasons.