Guilty Gear Dev Wants to Make the Games Western Devs Can't

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I certainly welcome any developer making games that draw more from their culture at least then we may get some real diversity and more studios focusing on their strengths to make a good game rather than blindly following market forces trying to make something similar to something that sold well.

Generally the more mass appeal you try and give something the less character it will have, best to just focus on what you are making and if people like it great if they dont they can try something else.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I don't know if it's a weird translation or he doesn't know what he wants to say.
So Japanse games need to evolve yet he doesn't intend to stray from his formula... can you take a guess why you have a hard time evolving?

Japan might not be one to dominate the shooter scene (although I would love to see their crazy ideas in FPS games), but they should totally turn towards hack&slash adventure games.

 

[JdaS]

A lot of people (particularly in the FGC) are going to be disappointed. Seems to me Ishiwatari has little interest in shitting out a new Guilty Gear. In fact, his XBOX 360 Guilty Gear was some RTS/Action type thing.

I wouldn't mind seeing something new from him. He's got an amazing creative mind and as long as gameplay is just as good, he could do some great things.

Also, I wouldn't say that the Japanese gaming industry is doing all that bad. In fact, a lot of their best games don't even get released here. Can you guess why? That's right! They're too deeply rooted in Japanese culture, ergo we Westerners "can't relate to that shit" (looking at you Ryu ga Gotoku: Kenzan!).

 

[TheDooD]

All I want from Arc Systems Works at the moment is a side scrolling beat'em up of either Berserk or Claymore with the multi-lanes that Guardian Heroes had.

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Or hell make a legit Golgo 13 game

 

[xPixelatedx]

I mean... how many 2D fighters can you play before you get eye strain from all the flashing lights and realize you're just playing a pachinko machine with breasts bouncing on it somewhere?

How many 3D shooters can you play before you start getting claustrophobic from being lost in endless labyrinths of brown and gray worlds and you realize you are just playing point&click adventures with violence? XD
The point is over saturation of anything isn't good, and considering how RARE 2D fighters are in this day and age, I don't think we are in danger from the market being flooded with them.

But yeah, good for them! Considering that I think the golden age of gaming was between the SNES and PS1, and that japan was the dominant force in that time period. I don't want to see that flavor of game making go away. The japanese are imaginative, and even the terrible games they make are amazing in their own right (like Deadly Premonition). I just can't believe all the giant robots, monsters, dinosaurs and ridiculous but fantastic plots are absent from nearly the entire display shelf at Gamestop. Daisuke Ishiwatari knows how to make a game good as I have seen with Blazblue and Guilty Gear, and not surrending that too the blandness of what today's audience demands is the most dignified thing he can do.

This man is my new Hero. If only the Castlevania creator was as smart as him...

 

[NickKuroshi0]

I would respect japanese Culture if they didn't shove the EXACT SAME Anime-esque cliches and tropes into the characters and stories over and over and OVER. Hell, I'd be glad to see a Japanese made game in this day and age NOT star an emo teenager who obsesses over his sister to the point of incestual overtones.

Alright then lets get started then:
Baccano (prohibition gangsters and immortals)
Haruhi Suzumiya (reality altering school girl subconciously creating mayhem)
Natsume Yuujinchou (teenager being targeted by yokai and protect his friends and foster family)
xxxHolic (teenager tormented by yokai and learning of the cruelties of fate and contracts)
Future Diary (god of time and space gives 12 people the ability to see into the future and starts a game were they are forced hunt each other down to become the new god)

Leave anime alone you run into a bunch of cliches in american broadcasting too.
But that is not to say there are some pretty good unique american cartoon shows just as their are some pretty shitty anime as well. But do people have the right to their opinion, just do not use a cliche to try to talk about a cliche that is not true.

 

[Combustion Kevin]

know what you do best, and keep doing that.

yeah, I like that strategy.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

More games that focus on Japanese culture?

*looks at Okami avatar*

I can get behind something like that.

Let's get one thing straight, I hate shitty Japanese androgynous angst, ala Final Fantasy 13, terrible characters, terrible story telling.

That's just the fault of Square's resident hack (Motomu Toriyama) trying to emulate FFVII and completely missing the point. God, I hope that idiot gets fired.

 

[Omnific One]

... that's the problem I have with Japanese games. Seriously, moderate your use of "Japanese culture"; it's not helping your case.

Also, I'm pretty sure real Japanese culture is not as batshit insane as some developers portray it as.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

How many 3D shooters can you play before you start getting claustrophobic from being lost in endless labyrinths of brown and gray worlds and you realize you are just playing point&click adventures with violence? XD

Not many. I think I draw the line at one per month.

The point is over saturation of anything isn't good, and considering how RARE 2D fighters are in this day and age, I don't think we are in danger from the market being flooded with them.

I'm not worried about being over-saturated with 2D Fighters. The reason they're rare is because they don't sell like the hot-cakes of yesteryear.

But yeah, good for them! Considering that I think the golden age of gaming was between the SNES and PS1, and that japan was the dominant force in that time period. I don't want to see that flavor of game making go away. The japanese are imaginative, and even the terrible games they make are amazing in their own right (like Deadly Premonition). I just can't believe all the giant robots, monsters, dinosaurs and ridiculous but fantastic plots are absent from nearly the entire display shelf at Gamestop. Daisuke Ishiwatari knows how to make a game good as I have seen with Blazblue and Guilty Gear, and not surrending that too the blandness of what today's audience demands is the most dignified thing he can do.

This man is my new Hero. If only the Castlevania creator was as smart as him...

I think the problem is that every Japanese game has giant robots, monsters, dinosaurs, and ridiculous yet fantastic plots. Blazblue and Guilty Gear are flashy, but directly below the surface is the same button-mashing gameplay as any other 2DF. You pick a character you like, you play him 'til you're sick of him, and then you pick up the latest sequel which changes next to nothing and play it again. I was laughing, and not in a "ha ha" way when I saw that Capcom was releasing that Marvel vs. Capcom 3 twice in the same year, with an "ultimate" tacked on to try and convince people it wasn't just the "finished" version of the game they pushed to release incomplete a few months back.

 

[Gatx]

I don't get it, on the one hand he's saying that they should innovate and be creative, but on the other he's saying they should just keep making 2D fighters like they've done for years.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

See, this is the mentality that we want here people.

Japanese games should be more and more Japanese and in that way they will be good, westernization is the way of fail and DMC.



I'm so happy that there's at least one last bastion of common sense left in Japan. (btw, anyone up for some blazblue sometime? )

I don't get it, on the one hand he's saying that they should innovate and be creative, but on the other he's saying they should just keep making 2D fighters like they've done for years.

Their fighters are really innovative.

2D doesn't mean retro, despite what Western developers seem to think.

I think the problem is that every Japanese game has giant robots, monsters, dinosaurs, and ridiculous yet fantastic plots. Blazblue and Guilty Gear are flashy, but directly below the surface is the same button-mashing gameplay as any other 2DF. You pick a character you like, you play him 'til you're sick of him, and then you pick up the latest sequel which changes next to nothing and play it again. I was laughing, and not in a "ha ha" way when I saw that Capcom was releasing that Marvel vs. Capcom 3 twice in the same year, with an "ultimate" tacked on to try and convince people it wasn't just the "finished" version of the game they pushed to release incomplete a few months back.

Sorry but you're just a casual player, these games are all really deep and nothing remotely close to button-mashers. To serious competitors you have hundreds if not thousands of hours of gameplay in each version and the sequels have such huge balance changes that they play like completely new games with a renewed playtime, they're nothing like the same game.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Nah... I'm good, thanks.

Metal Gear Solid was the only game I really ever enjoyed. And by enjoyed, I mean I enjoyed the gameplay. Those cutscenes were bleh.

 

[Freechoice]

I, for once, welcome a Japanese developer that is "we have a lot in our culture to explore in games", instead of "what can we do to appeal to the west".

Seriously, if there is one thing more off to Westerners than Japanese culture, is Japaneses trying to emulate Westerners sensibilities.

And they got Metal Wolf Chaos as a result.

You're welcome.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Honestly, I'd like to see more Japanese mythology, or at least something resembling it as a style for certain game archetypes. (and less emphasis on children; yes, I get why that trope happens so often, but I'm tired of it all the same)

Hey, it worked for Okami, right?

And they got Metal Wolf Chaos as a result.

You're welcome.

But Metal Wolf Chaos is AWESOME!

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