Even if you joking, I do not find that funny at all. The sole point of guns here in America is to fight off tyranny. hunting is a plus. I would never dare to think of the 2nd Amendment as a escape goat towards ending life. Sorry but you killed my fun buzzchikusho said:To have an easy way out if you ever get suicidal.
Can't risk losing the urge to off yourself while searching for a way to do it.
The sole point of guns there in America is a massive industry thriving on peoples fear.PrimitiveJudge said:Even if you joking, I do not find that funny at all. The sole point of guns here in America is to fight off tyranny. hunting is a plus. I would never dare to think of the 2nd Amendment as a escape goat towards ending life. Sorry but you killed my fun buzzchikusho said:To have an easy way out if you ever get suicidal.
Can't risk losing the urge to off yourself while searching for a way to do it.
Where are you concealing it, I wonder?Zachary Amaranth said:But the steam in the sauna room ruins the action on my 9mm!thaluikhain said:If you have a gun for defending yourself, it has to be with yourself at any time you might be attacked. Which could be any time.
I don't think there's any point in arguing with you as it's hard to tell if you're trolling or not. Militias often are not formed until they are needed, therefore we have the right to bear arms so that we may form an effective militia quickly when the time comes. We are constitutionally able to own firearms, get over it. Thriving on fear? Tell that to the many families who have protected themselves from home invasions and the like. There is fear, but guess what, I'd rather be alive at the end of the day so I'll carry a gun at all times whenever possible.chikusho said:The sole point of guns there in America is a massive industry thriving on peoples fear.PrimitiveJudge said:Even if you joking, I do not find that funny at all. The sole point of guns here in America is to fight off tyranny. hunting is a plus. I would never dare to think of the 2nd Amendment as a escape goat towards ending life. Sorry but you killed my fun buzzchikusho said:To have an easy way out if you ever get suicidal.
Can't risk losing the urge to off yourself while searching for a way to do it.
Unless you're talking about the second amendment, where the right to bear arms is constitutionally protected for a well regulated militia.
As for actual use, there are many reasons to have a gun. Penis enlargement and suicide are some pretty big ones.
Why would you need to shoot a guy though?Shadowstar38 said:If you bought a handgun without a permit, you have to keep it locked in a case, and put the bullets in a different location. With a Concealed permit, you can load it and put in your holster.MattRooney06 said:Also is a Concealed weapon permit, the same as a normal permit? like if I buy a hand gun but not a concealed weapon permit, do I have to constantly wave that gun around like "Hey guys, just to let you know here is my weapon!"
If I need to shot a guy, I want it to be as easy to get to as possible.
In case I get robbed, carjacked, or someone just wants to spread some general malice.Johnny Novgorod said:Why would you need to shoot a guy though?Shadowstar38 said:If you bought a handgun without a permit, you have to keep it locked in a case, and put the bullets in a different location. With a Concealed permit, you can load it and put in your holster.MattRooney06 said:Also is a Concealed weapon permit, the same as a normal permit? like if I buy a hand gun but not a concealed weapon permit, do I have to constantly wave that gun around like "Hey guys, just to let you know here is my weapon!"
If I need to shot a guy, I want it to be as easy to get to as possible.
You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?Shadowstar38 said:In case I get robbed, carjacked, or someone just wants to spread some general malice.Johnny Novgorod said:Why would you need to shoot a guy though?Shadowstar38 said:If you bought a handgun without a permit, you have to keep it locked in a case, and put the bullets in a different location. With a Concealed permit, you can load it and put in your holster.MattRooney06 said:Also is a Concealed weapon permit, the same as a normal permit? like if I buy a hand gun but not a concealed weapon permit, do I have to constantly wave that gun around like "Hey guys, just to let you know here is my weapon!"
If I need to shot a guy, I want it to be as easy to get to as possible.
Anywhere. Doesn't matter.Johnny Novgorod said:You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?Shadowstar38 said:In case I get robbed, carjacked, or someone just wants to spread some general malice.Johnny Novgorod said:Why would you need to shoot a guy though?Shadowstar38 said:If you bought a handgun without a permit, you have to keep it locked in a case, and put the bullets in a different location. With a Concealed permit, you can load it and put in your holster.MattRooney06 said:Also is a Concealed weapon permit, the same as a normal permit? like if I buy a hand gun but not a concealed weapon permit, do I have to constantly wave that gun around like "Hey guys, just to let you know here is my weapon!"
If I need to shot a guy, I want it to be as easy to get to as possible.
Never aim for the limbs. Always go for the biggest, most stable target (center of mass).Johnny Novgorod said:You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?Shadowstar38 said:In case I get robbed, carjacked, or someone just wants to spread some general malice.Johnny Novgorod said:Why would you need to shoot a guy though?Shadowstar38 said:If you bought a handgun without a permit, you have to keep it locked in a case, and put the bullets in a different location. With a Concealed permit, you can load it and put in your holster.MattRooney06 said:Also is a Concealed weapon permit, the same as a normal permit? like if I buy a hand gun but not a concealed weapon permit, do I have to constantly wave that gun around like "Hey guys, just to let you know here is my weapon!"
If I need to shot a guy, I want it to be as easy to get to as possible.
Ya, living in fear! That sounds like fun!thaluikhain said:If you have a gun for defending yourself, it has to be with yourself at any time you might be attacked. Which could be any time.MattRooney06 said:My point is, why buy a gun, I'm interested, not judging, I get that some people use firearms to hunt (they do that here in fact) but why for instance, get yourself a concealed weapon permit?
Johnny Novgorod said:You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?
Shadowstar38 said:Anywhere. Doesn't matter.
I get killing someone in defense of your own life. In defense of your wallet, though?senordesol said:Never aim for the limbs. Always go for the biggest, most stable target (center of mass).
In defense of your security.Johnny Novgorod said:Johnny Novgorod said:You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?Shadowstar38 said:Anywhere. Doesn't matter.I get killing someone in defense of your own life. In defense of your wallet, though?senordesol said:Never aim for the limbs. Always go for the biggest, most stable target (center of mass).
http://the7thpwr.wordpress.com/accidental-police-shootings/rasputin0009 said:Ya, living in fear! That sounds like fun!thaluikhain said:If you have a gun for defending yourself, it has to be with yourself at any time you might be attacked. Which could be any time.MattRooney06 said:My point is, why buy a gun, I'm interested, not judging, I get that some people use firearms to hunt (they do that here in fact) but why for instance, get yourself a concealed weapon permit?
I don't believe handguns should be allowed to the public. Single shot or semi automatic long guns only. Locked in a gun locker seperate from ammo when not in use. No registration, but background checks into criminal, mental health, and rehab with a minimum one month wait period upon purchase.
Handguns are especially dangerous because they can be concealed. Unless you're a professional, I don't believe you are important enough to society to have the ability of instantly taking another person's life away.
It's hard to know if we're talking about the same thing or not. The second amendment grants the right to bear arms for a well regulated militia. The first clause trumps the second clause, according the Supreme Court, ergo:Kennetic said:I don't think there's any point in arguing with you as it's hard to tell if you're trolling or not. Militias often are not formed until they are needed, therefore we have the right to bear arms so that we may form an effective militia quickly when the time comes. We are constitutionally able to own firearms, get over it. Thriving on fear? Tell that to the many families who have protected themselves from home invasions and the like. There is fear, but guess what, I'd rather be alive at the end of the day so I'll carry a gun at all times whenever possible.
Legally? He's putting me in danger, so I'm well within my rights.Johnny Novgorod said:Johnny Novgorod said:You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?Shadowstar38 said:Anywhere. Doesn't matter.I get killing someone in defense of your own life. In defense of your wallet, though?senordesol said:Never aim for the limbs. Always go for the biggest, most stable target (center of mass).
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.chikusho said:It's hard to know if we're talking about the same thing or not. The second amendment grants the right to bear arms for a well regulated militia. The first clause trumps the second clause, according the Supreme Court, ergo:Kennetic said:I don't think there's any point in arguing with you as it's hard to tell if you're trolling or not. Militias often are not formed until they are needed, therefore we have the right to bear arms so that we may form an effective militia quickly when the time comes. We are constitutionally able to own firearms, get over it. Thriving on fear? Tell that to the many families who have protected themselves from home invasions and the like. There is fear, but guess what, I'd rather be alive at the end of the day so I'll carry a gun at all times whenever possible.
"The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence"
And that has been the legal stance until 2008, when NRA lobbying finally changed public perception enough for a court to uphold the second clause above the first, and literally changed the constitution.
To me, it sounds like you have your own personal interpretation of second amendment, so I don't know if there's any point in arguing.
Protected themselves? Tell that to the many families who killed themselves or each other, lost a family member, friend or child in gun related accidents "and the like".
There is fear, but guess what, the last thing two fearful people need are lethal weapons. Because that can quickly turn to two dead people.
I'm pretty sure murder is a worse crime than theft. Morally.Shadowstar38 said:Legally? He's putting me in danger, so I'm well within my rights.Johnny Novgorod said:Johnny Novgorod said:You mean shoot them in the leg or pretty much anywhere?Shadowstar38 said:Anywhere. Doesn't matter.I get killing someone in defense of your own life. In defense of your wallet, though?senordesol said:Never aim for the limbs. Always go for the biggest, most stable target (center of mass).
On moral grounds? He's robbing me. I can't spare many fucks to give.