This is why you hire a white hat (hired hacker that attempts to hack into something to identify security holes) when you're programming something as important as a car's ignition... I realize that technology like this may be new to some companies but if there's an exploit it will be found and it will be abused until that exploit is fixed.
Hackers Hack Themselves a Fancy New BMW
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The bottleneck already is finding anyone driving one, which is how criminals have operated before (so they know their targets security) in relation to car thefts.RvLeshrac said:
Although the fact that 'gone in 60 seconds' is almost a reality is kind of terrifying.
This is not really new to me. I've seen a documentary on car thieves in france. There was this guy who had a custom made device. Cost him 10K euro's. Basically it had the software installed on it to 'crack' any bmw's/mercedes'/audi/porsche/... on board computer (of the last generation that came out, it's useless for the new generations). He himself knew a lot about the security systems ofcourse.
And they already had a device that could remotely unlock BMW's. BMW's security isn't "shit", it's just the same as with computer games. No matter how hard you secure it. There will always be a way around it. And only one guy needs to crack it. Not every single car thief, just one is enough. They just sell the technique for lots of cash.
The best way to NOT have your car stolen is just not buy BMW. I drive a opel corsa that looks like this only white.
http://www.auto-types.com/images/opel/Opel_Corsa_2fu.jpg
Ain't nobody gonna steal that shit. It doesn't even have air conditioning. The only thing this car has is a 'decent' engine (90 hp, for a car this light it's enough).
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And they already had a device that could remotely unlock BMW's. BMW's security isn't "shit", it's just the same as with computer games. No matter how hard you secure it. There will always be a way around it. And only one guy needs to crack it. Not every single car thief, just one is enough. They just sell the technique for lots of cash.
The best way to NOT have your car stolen is just not buy BMW. I drive a opel corsa that looks like this only white.
http://www.auto-types.com/images/opel/Opel_Corsa_2fu.jpg
Ain't nobody gonna steal that shit. It doesn't even have air conditioning. The only thing this car has is a 'decent' engine (90 hp, for a car this light it's enough).
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Impressive, I am reminded of the demotivational poster mocking those stupid anti-piracy ads.
"You wouldn't download a car!"
No, but apparently I can download the key...
"You wouldn't download a car!"
No, but apparently I can download the key...
a VERY simple fix for this is to make the car require 30 minutes to learn a new fob if there is not an already programmed fob present (one that the owner has)
y'know, kinda like how the US automakers do it
the worst part is that normally this kind of theft deterrent is VERY difficult to defeat, considering that a mechanical theft deterrent (key) is pretty easy to get around, and half the aftermarket car alarm/theft deterrent systems actually make cars easier to steal (who'd a though?)
some late model theft deterrents use a combination of a mechanical key and transponder setup that's quite good, and ends up with the benefits of both
y'know, kinda like how the US automakers do it
the worst part is that normally this kind of theft deterrent is VERY difficult to defeat, considering that a mechanical theft deterrent (key) is pretty easy to get around, and half the aftermarket car alarm/theft deterrent systems actually make cars easier to steal (who'd a though?)
some late model theft deterrents use a combination of a mechanical key and transponder setup that's quite good, and ends up with the benefits of both
"A recent model of an expensive BMW sedan has been stolen way more than the average sports car in the UK"
BMW sells more 3 series cars, usually base models, than Ford sells Mondeos in the UK.
They aren't a rare car, there is at least one on every street - they are way more common than other sports cars so its an ideal target for thieves to target.
BMW sells more 3 series cars, usually base models, than Ford sells Mondeos in the UK.
They aren't a rare car, there is at least one on every street - they are way more common than other sports cars so its an ideal target for thieves to target.
But the car that was stolen wasn't a 3 series - its an extremely rare 1 series M coupe, only a handful of which were sold in the UK.Vie said:
Was it good?jdogtwodolla said:
*puts on sunglasses*
Kind of...
OT: Remote control houses next, you just know it.
Well that is what you get when you add fancy computers to your cars, you get hackers in it for "the fun of the challenge" what is wrong with just an engine with wheels attacked to some sort of seat and of couse that state of the art padlock thing that holds the door shut