Donnyp said:
I wouldn't say these groups are super heroes. They are an underground resistance group a best, all secretly working for a goal through Sabatoge and guirilla tactics. This kind of movement is as old as dirt and is no way unique.Treblaine said:Hmm, These "hacktivists". Vigilantes. Secret identities. Scourge of governments and criminals alike. Driven by their own mysterious code of ideals. Act as individuals in loose association.
Superheroes and super-villains are not longer comic book fantasies.
Really how different is "Intentet Anonymity" from Peter Parker's "Secret Identity"
There was allot more in the filter proposal than child porn. Telstra is using that as a defense just like the Au government was. If it was just about the child porn and nothing but the filter wouldve been passed a long time ago.Donnyp said:
It doesn't work. It only hurts the good consumers. Besides, what would stopping people looking at child porn solve? It won't get rid of the content. Won't even slow down the production of the content. Child pornography is a problem because it harms children. Does this censorship do anything at all to prevent that harm? The answer is no. Not by a long shot. Besides, why would people actively seek out a service that blocks child porn? The people that don't look at that sort of stuff shouldn't be interested. For them, it doesn't matter whether it's censored or not. I mean I don't look at the stuff... would I choose a service that censors content (and inevitably it will censor 'legitimate' content) or would I go with the other company that minds it's own business?jakko12345 said:
maybe but my point still stands it starts with child porn sites and the next step might be stuff like 4chan or wikileaks.Canid117 said:
But the thing is that these filters can easily be reappropriated to block other sites, such as whoever is in charge feels like blocking. It's basically censorship, like stopping the newspapers from running stories and the TV from playing news articles.Donnyp said:
It's just the internet, which isn't the most important thing in the world might I add.Tdc2182 said:
Well their actions blur the line between superhero and supervillain, they seem to think they are heroes yet they seem to act more like Villians, all the newspapers are convince "they're a menace".Not G. Ivingname said:I wouldn't say these groups are super heroes. They are an underground resistance group a best, all secretly working for a goal through Sabatoge and guirilla tactics. This kind of movement is as old as dirt and is no way unique.Treblaine said:Hmm, These "hacktivists". Vigilantes. Secret identities. Scourge of governments and criminals alike. Driven by their own mysterious code of ideals. Act as individuals in loose association.
Superheroes and super-villains are not longer comic book fantasies.
Really how different is "Intentet Anonymity" from Peter Parker's "Secret Identity"
Real super heroes however do exist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pB2gLZtlY
I wondered what you meant by "RC content" and googled it to get this:SoulSalmon said:
I don't see how Anonymous is an "assumed" identity since they gladly claim that is who they are, just that they hide the members not only from the insitutions they are fighting. As if they are heroes or villains also completely depends on the point of view and which side will be the "winner" to see if they are remembered as a heroic movement where the small overcame the great (like Free France) or a group of terrorists that are willing to do anything for their extremist goals (like Al Quadia).Treblaine said:Well their actions blur the line between superhero and supervillain, they seem to think they are heroes yet they seem to act more like Villians, all the newspapers are convince "they're a menace".Not G. Ivingname said:I wouldn't say these groups are super heroes. They are an underground resistance group a best, all secretly working for a goal through Sabatoge and guirilla tactics. This kind of movement is as old as dirt and is no way unique.Treblaine said:Hmm, These "hacktivists". Vigilantes. Secret identities. Scourge of governments and criminals alike. Driven by their own mysterious code of ideals. Act as individuals in loose association.
Superheroes and super-villains are not longer comic book fantasies.
Really how different is "Intentet Anonymity" from Peter Parker's "Secret Identity"
Real super heroes however do exist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pB2gLZtlY
But I think the distinction from underground resistance movement is they don't just have a hidden identity, they have an assumed identity. They adopt very distinct personas not just put on a balaclava and the message they leave is for a political organisation, they are totally individuals.
I wouldn't count those "superheroes" as much more than posers. Key aspect of superhero/villain is that they are mostly at odds with the law.
I see you've found the interesting little flaw in ACMA's plan. Typical bullshit put together by people who don't understand the technology they're trying to police that will fail should they actually implement it. It's especially fun when you consider that the amount of information on the net grows faster than anyone can keep track of.Treblaine said:
Fine, be that way. It's not like we made a cake for you or anything.
