Halo 4 Review

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Slycne

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Reginald said:
How much replay value is there in this game,exactly? Could you play through the campaign at least four times without getting bored?
In theory, yes. Once for normal, another to finish it on harder difficulty, co-op and then some combination of the previous 3 but with various skulls on as well.

jollybarracuda said:
And second being looking at the Escapist video review. I counted about 2 or 3 times where the Prometheans were actually shown fighting, most of it is just the Covenant.

So while yes, Halo 4 does take place on a new planet, with a new alien species, it doesn't appear to really make much use of it, simply using it all as a backdrop for another Humans vs. Covenant squabble.

Maybe i'm just reading too much between the lines, but as much as i love the Halo franchise, I can say i'm a bit skeptical about how this will be sitting with me come release.
Part of that was due to certain sections we were asked not to spoil. Overall, it sort of goes back in forth and at various times mixes the two. Hard to nail down an exact number, but I'd hazard a guess around 60-40 split in favor of the Prometheans over how often you're fighting them instead of Covenant.
 

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Slycne said:
Part of that was due to certain sections we were asked not to spoil. Overall, it sort of goes back in forth and at various times mixes the two. Hard to nail down an exact number, but I'd hazard a guess around 60-40 split in favor of the Prometheans over how often you're fighting them instead of Covenant.
Ah, i guess I can see why they wouldn't want it all spoiled. Well then I stand corrected, which i'm quite happy about as I do love me a good Halo game, and that was the big thing really worrying me about this game. Thanks for the clarification.
 

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Korten12 said:
m19 said:
You shouldn't have to read any book.
Thing is though, Halo is a franchise, not just a game series, like someone also said on this forum, 343i is essentially Halo's LucasArts. Halo has too big of a universe to ignore it, and 343i knows that.

You can understand the story fine without reading, but many references will go over your head.

And.... 10k POSTS!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
I love it when there are subtle (and not so subtle) novel tie-ins in my gaming.

Mass Effect 3 had a good amount of extended universe material in the core game, and you appreciate that type of stuff as a nod to the more rabid fans of the chosen franchise when it happens.

I've only just gotten onto the Halo train.... (I know.. I know, better late that never though right?) so am starting Combat Evolved Anniversary now, along with reading Fall of Reach to kick off some Halo-ism.

I love discovering looked over franchises..
 

Korten12

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jollybarracuda said:
...while the books, I'd imagine, were just outsourced to a publishing company? I guess that's just the pitfall of having a franchise branch out into other forms of media, everyone has their own take on it.
What? They weren't outsourced, the books were considered full canon. Now for 343i everything is canon, all major characters aside from Palmer in Halo 4, are from the books. Since their rule is everything fit.

I mean, this could have been a whole new world, with new enemies, allies, and lore. But it's looking like the same old Human vs. Covenant fight we've seen four times already.
What? You fight the Prometheans more then the Covenant. Plus based on what I can see, this game is the start of the Second Human-Forerunner War. That's pretty big, not simply Human vs. Covenant.
 

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Doesn't sound like I need to get this day one. I love multiplayer, but I want a well balanced single player as well. I'll wait for a Black Friday sale.
 

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The Fonsz said:
Why does Halo 4 get 4 stars out of five and Assassins Creed 3 get 5 stars and only a year ago we had revelations, I don't get it? This review gives no clarity on Halo 4 is all about and all the hard work 343i put in. I mean Halo 4 has spent nearly 3.5 years in development and AC3 1.7 its silly.

Just a question do the reviewers even clarify with each other do they know what should be a 5 or a 4 caus it seems to me they don't.
That's...That's not how reviews work. A game doesn't get points for how long its been development.
 

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The Fonsz said:
Why does Halo 4 get 4 stars out of five and Assassins Creed 3 get 5 stars and only a year ago we had revelations, I don't get it? This review gives no clarity on Halo 4 is all about and all the hard work 343i put in. I mean Halo 4 has spent nearly 3.5 years in development and AC3 1.7 its silly.

Just a question do the reviewers even clarify with each other do they know what should be a 5 or a 4 caus it seems to me they don't.
You know, reviews are subjective. Besides years in development doesn't necessarily equal quality.
 

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So game was made cheaper, yet sold at the same price, plus quality has gone down because of layoffs and the depression, though still sold at the same price.

Let me guess, Halo Reach servers will be discontinued quicker too, because of the depression that America is still not recovering from.
 

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Wow, people complaining about an 8/10? Or HATE out of 10 as Jim Sterling recently put it.

So funny, after I read the review I just knew people were going be ranting against the Escapist "slamming" Halo 4 or giving it a "bad score" but even I am surprised it only took three posts.

I really want to play this game but I only play on PC as that fits my life better right now. I have beaten all of the other Halo games it is the only console first person shooter I have ever really liked.
 

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ViciousTide said:
So game was made cheaper, yet sold at the same price, plus quality has gone down because of layoffs and the depression, though still sold at the same price.

Let me guess, Halo Reach servers will be discontinued quicker too, because of the depression that America is still not recovering from.
Price is only loosely connected to cost. A lot of people assume that if something is cheaper to make than it will sell for a cheaper price. Now I do not know if Halo 4 was cheaper to make than earlier entries in the series, frankly I doubt that is true. If you have evidence to the contrary perhaps you would post it.

Market demand is going to determine the price of a product. If you do not think they are providing you with enough value for your $60 then do not give it to them.
 

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I've only played the first two Halos, and always thought of them as mediocre games. True, they excelled in graphics and music, but they just didn't feel right to play. Just two weapons? Self-recharging shield? Tiny FOV with no way to change? No widescreen support? Shoving Vista down your throat? Yuck.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
The Fonsz said:
Why does Halo 4 get 4 stars out of five and Assassins Creed 3 get 5 stars and only a year ago we had revelations, I don't get it? This review gives no clarity on Halo 4 is all about and all the hard work 343i put in. I mean Halo 4 has spent nearly 3.5 years in development and AC3 1.7 its silly.

Just a question do the reviewers even clarify with each other do they know what should be a 5 or a 4 caus it seems to me they don't.
That's...That's not how reviews work. A game doesn't get points for how long its been development.
If it did, though, Duke Nukem Forever would be considered a benchmark in game design.

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Slycne said:
maddawg IAJI said:
That's...That's not how reviews work. A game doesn't get points for how long its been development.
See Duke Nukem Forever.
Ninja'd again!
 

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After playing the game, I have to agree that this review is pretty spot on. Some flaws, but overall pretty good, especially for 343's first game. Gonna play Spartan Ops and Wargames when I get the chance.
 

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Someone please reassure me... does the game's soundtrack have at least a few remixes of the iconic Halo theme? Or will Halo 3 continue to have the greatest soundtrack in the series (No, Halo Reach's soundtrack didn't even come close to touching Halo 3's... which was mostly drawn from the first two games' soundtracks.

Also... does the multiplayer still have all the wacky options and gametypes from the previous games? (Rocket infection with unlimited grenades, triple move-speed, overshields, and invincible vehicles!)
 

LostintheWick

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After playing the game, I agree that the music doesn't have those themes that get stuck with you in your head. I disagree that the game feels "off". It feels like a new direction (and I LIKE it). But the Chief is still the chief and the Covenant are still the covenant. That hasn't changed :)
 

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Korten12 said:
Because it wen't against canon
The games constitute canon, nothing else. Anything in a book is considered "Extended Universe" and Canon > Extended Universe. Reach is what happened, and anything else that says otherwise is wrong.

That's the way canon works.

You can thank Star Wars for these sets of rules.
 

Korten12

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Draconalis said:
Korten12 said:
Because it wen't against canon
The games constitute canon, nothing else. Anything in a book is considered "Extended Universe" and Canon > Extended Universe. Reach is what happened, and anything else that says otherwise is wrong.

That's the way canon works.

You can thank Star Wars for these sets of rules.
Wrong for 343i the rules are: Everything fits and everything is on the same level. Many references I have seen in Halo 4 are to the books.
 

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Korten12 said:
Wrong for 343i the rules are: Everything fits and everything is on the same level. Many references I have seen in Halo 4 are to the books.
Then it's 343 that's getting it wrong.