If it did, though, Duke Nukem Forever would be considered a benchmark in game design.maddawg IAJI said:That's...That's not how reviews work. A game doesn't get points for how long its been development.The Fonsz said:Why does Halo 4 get 4 stars out of five and Assassins Creed 3 get 5 stars and only a year ago we had revelations, I don't get it? This review gives no clarity on Halo 4 is all about and all the hard work 343i put in. I mean Halo 4 has spent nearly 3.5 years in development and AC3 1.7 its silly.
Just a question do the reviewers even clarify with each other do they know what should be a 5 or a 4 caus it seems to me they don't.
Ninja'd again!Slycne said:See Duke Nukem Forever.maddawg IAJI said:That's...That's not how reviews work. A game doesn't get points for how long its been development.
The games constitute canon, nothing else. Anything in a book is considered "Extended Universe" and Canon > Extended Universe. Reach is what happened, and anything else that says otherwise is wrong.Korten12 said:Because it wen't against canon
Wrong for 343i the rules are: Everything fits and everything is on the same level. Many references I have seen in Halo 4 are to the books.Draconalis said:The games constitute canon, nothing else. Anything in a book is considered "Extended Universe" and Canon > Extended Universe. Reach is what happened, and anything else that says otherwise is wrong.Korten12 said:Because it wen't against canon
That's the way canon works.
You can thank Star Wars for these sets of rules.
Then it's 343 that's getting it wrong.Korten12 said:Wrong for 343i the rules are: Everything fits and everything is on the same level. Many references I have seen in Halo 4 are to the books.
Their universe their rules. Unless how you state it is an absolute truth, which it isn't then they can't do it wrong.Draconalis said:Then it's 343 that's getting it wrong.Korten12 said:Wrong for 343i the rules are: Everything fits and everything is on the same level. Many references I have seen in Halo 4 are to the books.
That's not quite how canon works. Canon is simply the body of fiction in a universe that's considered to be "real". It's not that works from the Extended Universe are not considered canon, it's simply that when conflicts present themselves the parent material is always correct unless otherwise stated by the creators.Draconalis said:The games constitute canon, nothing else. Anything in a book is considered "Extended Universe" and Canon > Extended Universe. Reach is what happened, and anything else that says otherwise is wrong.
That's the way canon works.
You can thank Star Wars for these sets of rules.
Admittedly I oversimplified (Or out right explained myself incorrectly), but this is the point I was trying to make. Extended Universe takes a backseat to whatever the parent material states.Slycne said:It's not that works from the Extended Universe are not considered canon, it's simply that when conflicts present themselves the parent material is always correct unless otherwise stated by the creators.
It can be done wrong. It can be done very wrong. Entire franchises have crashed and burned by doing things wrong.Korten12 said:Their universe their rules. Unless how you state it is an absolute truth, which it isn't then they can't do it wrong.
I would say that Reach broke canon. Simply because it borrowed elements from books, (Spartan-III's, Reach in general) and just kind of changed everything.Draconalis said:Admittedly I oversimplified (Or out right explained myself incorrectly), but this is the point I was trying to make. Extended Universe takes a backseat to whatever the parent material states.Slycne said:It's not that works from the Extended Universe are not considered canon, it's simply that when conflicts present themselves the parent material is always correct unless otherwise stated by the creators.
It can be done wrong. It can be done very wrong. Entire franchises have crashed and burned by doing things wrong.Korten12 said:Their universe their rules. Unless how you state it is an absolute truth, which it isn't then they can't do it wrong.
Halo 4 follows canon strongly compared to Reach and for that its pretty awesome.RadioactiveMicrobe said:I would say that Reach broke canon. Simply because it borrowed elements from books, (Spartan-III's, Reach in general) and just kind of changed everything.Draconalis said:Admittedly I oversimplified (Or out right explained myself incorrectly), but this is the point I was trying to make. Extended Universe takes a backseat to whatever the parent material states.Slycne said:It's not that works from the Extended Universe are not considered canon, it's simply that when conflicts present themselves the parent material is always correct unless otherwise stated by the creators.
It can be done wrong. It can be done very wrong. Entire franchises have crashed and burned by doing things wrong.Korten12 said:Their universe their rules. Unless how you state it is an absolute truth, which it isn't then they can't do it wrong.
The only reason I can see them changing it is because the Reach book, though an amazing book, wouldn't have translated well to a game.
Halo 4 just kind of does its own thing, and I can't consider it even good.
Hence why I found Reach uninteresting, since there was already a novel entitled Fall of Reach, and Master Chief wasn't the player character, just some guy who ends up dead at the end. My bigger-HALO-fan-friends thought I was mad, but I am now psyched for this new game and direction for the story, and new weapons & enemies to kill them with!Shocksplicer said:Umm, summaries would help I guess, but you'd be better off reading them.erttheking said:If I read the plot summaries of the books will that do? Also I liked Reach, so if people thought that Reach was bad and 4 was good, then hopefully 4 will blow me out of the parkShocksplicer said:The story is actually pretty damn excellent if you've read the books from what I've heard.
I'm happy they're rewarding people for reading the books, especially after the massive Fuck You that was Halo: Reach.
Also, the reason I and many like myself hate Reach is because it violated the canon established in the book in like 8 different ways for no good reason. Stuff like how Spartan 3s work and the fall of Reach happened in the books were tossed out the window and replaced with stuff that was no way near as good.
As far as I'm concerned Reach is non-canon, and so long as Halo 4 doesn't follow on from how things were handled in Reach that is actually possible.
Sorry, no. That's one of the truly disappointing elements of this game although, to be fair, there aren't a great many flaws despite what others might say.Scow2 said:Someone please reassure me... does the game's soundtrack have at least a few remixes of the iconic Halo theme? Or will Halo 3 continue to have the greatest soundtrack in the series (No, Halo Reach's soundtrack didn't even come close to touching Halo 3's... which was mostly drawn from the first two games' soundtracks.