Halo reach pre-orders top 1.9 million, beats MW2 pre-orders for 360

[ayuri]

Heh, new halo game vs new call of duty game.

Kinda like watching two drunk, retarded, homeless quadriplegics try to fight to the death without wheelchairs.

i think i love you *and hate xbox

 

[Nouw]

You know he never even implied it's a surprise.

wow I didn't know there were only 1.9 million complete tools out there
I guess everyone else is just going to play Halo 3 again and call it a day
good on you everyone but the 1.9 million retards out there

Judging from your grammar, punctuation, and point; I can only assume that you should be ignored.

OP: Yes Halo Reach has set a new bar for videogame releases everywhere.

fine, ignore me, spend $60 on a game that you already own, then preorder Halo Reach 2, and Halo Reach 3. Never mind that you're being milked with new box art and slight graphical upgrades

Slight graphical changes? There's a huge change. Far more polygons.
There won't be a Halo Reach 2 or 3. Willing to bet money on that?
Milked? Halo: Reach is the fifth Halo game and 5 games is hardly milking.
Are you saying it's just new box art? New characters. New Setting. New Timezone. New Weapons. New Vehicles. Better Game.

Don't judge a fucking book by it's cover good sir.

 

[TheTaco007]

Good, MW2 sucked, and Halo Reach is awesome, and more importantly BALANCED.

Exactly.

MW2 is just broken. Remember how many bugs/glitches it shipped with? And still has for that matter? They didn't test it AT ALL. They just threw a bunch of guns in a pile and called it a game.

Honestly, I was actually kind of hoping Reach wouldn't be as popular as MW2, that way we wouldn't be getting a bunch of CoD noobs trying to find every possible way to exploit the game.

Actually, it'd just be better if the game caters to the skilled, which it looks like it does. This way we get to SLAUGHTER the CoD noobs.

I hope they do try to break the game in every way possible, that way Bungie can permanently ban their asses, since they actually care about having cheater free mutliplayer, unlike Infinity Ward.

And then actually fix any exploits they tried? Yeah, that'd be great.

 

[awsome117]

with this being Bungie's last Halo game, it's gonna get snapped up pretty quickly.

I remember when Halo 3 was Bungie's last Halo game.

Then they changed their minds, and said "No, we said it was our last FPS Halo game with Master Chief in"


I will not be astonished if they end up producing another Halo game in a year or two, once the money starts drying up. That's assuming their 'new IP' for Activision isn't just 'Master Chief wearing a different hat'.

People would enjoy yet another Halo game anyway. They're all set to enjoy this one, after all.

(I'd be more excited if they were doing things like 'innovating' and 'not making the exact same game they've made 3 times before, but with nicer graphics' - but they're hardly the only developer infected with sequelitis)

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I am impressed by the pre-ordering, though - competing with MW2 (which was stupidly popular, as everyone knows) is pretty damn special; there's knowing a game is popular, and there's knowing a game is that popular.

Even though the point has been made a dozen times, Halo 3 was never going to be their last halo game. It was going to be the last game in the trilogy(or having MC as the main character basically).

They have already moved on to a new IP, although they haven't said what yet.

 

[Mikeyfell]

Slight graphical changes? There's a huge change. Far more polygons.
There won't be a Halo Reach 2 or 3. Willing to bet money on that?
Milked? Halo: Reach is the fifth Halo game and 5 games is hardly milking.
Are you saying it's just new box art? New characters. New Setting. New Timezone. New Weapons. New Vehicles. Better Game.

Don't judge a fucking book by it's cover good sir.

If you're still basing game quality on the amount of on-screen polygons you need your priorities shifted. that stopped being relevant on the PS2
With 1.9 million pre-orders? Bungie would be stupid to not repackage the same game in a new box again and sell it back to them.
it's not Nintendo level milking but Halo 3 was a prettier Halo 2 and ODST was a shorter Halo 3(as if that was even possible) and Reach just looks like a different looking Halo 3 (I've seen some game-play footage and to me it looks worse)
New box art and graphics, at least in between not ODST that was just the box art
You care about the characters in the Halo games? were you lobotomized?
the new settings go hand and hand with the new graphics and they do nothing to vary the game play which has gone unchanged since the first one, actually mostly unchanged since the first FPS.
new timezones? what I don't even know what that means
new weapons and vehicles, well it's the least they could do for their loyal fans right? I mean they're basically just twittiling their thumbs until they announce Halo Reach 2, they could spend 10 minutes to photoshop a chainsaw on a battle rifle or something. Maybe even give you a jet-pack
I'm not judging Halo Reach by it's cover (that would make me think it was different from Halo 3) I'm judging Halo Reach based on what all developers of FPS games have always done.

 

[awsome117]

Slight graphical changes? There's a huge change. Far more polygons.
There won't be a Halo Reach 2 or 3. Willing to bet money on that?
Milked? Halo: Reach is the fifth Halo game and 5 games is hardly milking.
Are you saying it's just new box art? New characters. New Setting. New Timezone. New Weapons. New Vehicles. Better Game.

Don't judge a fucking book by it's cover good sir.

If you're still basing game quality on the amount of on-screen polygons you need your priorities shifted. that stopped being relevant on the PS2
With 1.9 million pre-orders? Bungie would be stupid to not repackage the same game in a new box again and sell it back to them.
it's not Nintendo level milking but Halo 3 was a prettier Halo 2 and ODST was a shorter Halo 3(as if that was even possible) and Reach just looks like a different looking Halo 3 (I've seen some game-play footage and to me it looks worse)
New box art and graphics, at least in between not ODST that was just the box art
You care about the characters in the Halo games? were you lobotomized?
the new settings go hand and hand with the new graphics and they do nothing to vary the game play which has gone unchanged since the first one, actually mostly unchanged since the first FPS.
new timezones? what I don't even know what that means
new weapons and vehicles, well it's the least they could do for their loyal fans right? I mean they're basically just twittiling their thumbs until they announce Halo Reach 2, they could spend 10 minutes to photoshop a chainsaw on a battle rifle or something. Maybe even give you a jet-pack
I'm not judging Halo Reach by it's cover (that would make me think it was different from Halo 3) I'm judging Halo Reach based on what all developers of FPS games have always done.

Wait... I seem to be confused. You say that graphics don't matter (from what I understand) but continually degrade Halo: Reach because you feel it has worse graphics. If that's the case, it shouldn't really matter what it looks like to you shouldn't it?

If you're going by game play, which it doesn't look like you're doing, you can tell the differences between Halo 3 and Halo: Reach.

Don't like the Halo characters, that's fine. But they are more interesting than you give them credit for.

Also, no there will not be a Halo: Reach 2(as Reach falls in this game, so having another Reach would be impossible). And well technically it is a new timezone, but only about by a year, maybe a few months actually.

So wait, you don't like the fact they added new things to the game? Weird, because you said it was the same game, just a new box but said they added all these new things to make the fans happy (which is what a game dev should do shouldn't they?)

And no, you are judging the game on it's cover, as there is no logical reason behind any of your statements.

 

[Soylent Dave]

Even though the point has been made a dozen times, Halo 3 was never going to be their last halo game. It was going to be the last game in the trilogy(or having MC as the main character basically).

They have already moved on to a new IP, although they haven't said what yet.

Using the almighty power of the Wayback Machine, let us travel back into the distant past :

One of the most-hyped games to date, Halo 3, is now officially finished, and the gold master has been released to manufacturing.

Microsoft, publisher of the Bungie title, has announced that the final chapter in the trilogy will now be in production ahead of its release on September 25

That was Halo 3, the final chapter in the trilogy there, back in 2007.

Bungie is currently working on three separate projects, of which only the Halo title is so far known to the public, but according to community and PR director Brian Jarrard that team currently working on Recon won't continue to work on Halo projects in that series once the game ships.

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"I think when this project wraps up in a couple of months that will be the time when that team moves on to something else" [said PR director Brian Jarrard]

...

when asked if that meant Halo 3 Recon would be a "final statement" from Bungie as far as the Halo trilogy was concerned, Jarrard agreed.

No, wait - hang on - Halo 3 Recon (ODST) was the final chapter in 2008. The team that worked on it were also going to move onto 'something else' - I wonder what that was going to be...

There is no word as yet on what the other projects Bungie is working on may be, [but] one of them is definitely new IP

Ooh, a new IP. Unless they just didn't bother and started doing Halo Reach instead.

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So no, I don't think they always planned to just finish the trilogy and carry on making games that were almost exactly like Halo and part of the same storyline but starring someone who looked a bit like Master Chief (but who definitely isn't him).

I think they were going to do something different, but changed their minds due to popular demand (and/or money. Or lack of ideas. Or all of the above). This isn't necessarily a bad thing - there's a shitload of people out there who really like Halo, and are probably going to really enjoy Reach.

And you're right in that Reach isn't part of the Trilogy. Because there are now 5 games in it (6 if you count Halo Wars), so it's not a trilogy any more. It's definitely part of the same story, though.

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Oh, and I know they have a new IP confirmed. I was facetiously suggesting that it's going to be just like Halo, but featuring characters wearing different hats. Although hopefully it won't be, as Bungie make gorgeous games, so it would be nice to see something entirely new from them (that was still pretty).

 

[Patricia Andrews]

This completely borders on a troll-post, as I don't play Halo, never did, nor am I at all any good at FPS games at all unless there is assisted targeting. I am one of those very very odd types who likes watching other people play FPS games. Needless to say I am sad for the death of the arcade as a social outlet. >.>

I love reading threads like this though because ever since the release of LoadingReadyRun's skit on the growth of Halo and the subsequent 'Halocaust' I have been watching the development of Halo from the sidelines and watching science fiction slide slowly an inexorably into a terrifying reality. These pre-order numbers are reaching skit proportions.

/end random troll-like insertion into what will soon be a frothing rage of hate filled expletives slung randomly

/start eating of popcorn

 

[Mikeyfell]

Wait... I seem to be confused. You say that graphics don't matter (from what I understand) but continually degrade Halo: Reach because you feel it has worse graphics. If that's the case, it shouldn't really matter what it looks like to you shouldn't it?

to me graphics are the least important part of a game, it takes lots of money to make good graphics and all that money always comes from the writing staff, or the voice actors, or something that's far more important that how it looks. that's my philosophy anyway. I'm not degrading Halo for the graphics, the Graphics are all that FPS games have.

If you're going by game play, which it doesn't look like you're doing, you can tell the differences between Halo 3 and Halo: Reach.

Halo Reach isn't out yet, unless you're in New York, but unless you're not shooting from a first person perspective any more it's going to be the same as all the other Halo games and all the Call of Duty games and all the Metal of Honor games. even Half Life.
there's only so many ways to "Boom Headshot!" something and unless I care about the characters I loose interest very quickly
I would play Reach I just don't want to buy it from Bungie, I know it's going to be fine, because Halo 3 was fine, and I knew Halo 3 would be fine because Halo 2 was fine. I like forge mode and machinima mode.

Don't like the Halo characters, that's fine. But they are more interesting than you give them credit for.

Cortana is one of my favorite characters of all times
Master Chief, the Arbiter, Johnson and sparky the floating eyeball can all go fuck themselves
they have half a personality trait between them

Also, no there will not be a Halo: Reach 2(as Reach falls in this game, so having another Reach would be impossible). And well technically it is a new timezone, but only about by a year, maybe a few months actually.

If the Halo series ends with this game I will grow wings and fly
it doesn't matter what the established story from the books says or not
Bungie will not let this cash cow die
maybe if the fan base hates them after they announce Halo Reach 2 they'll learn something
but I wouldn't count on it
and I still don't know what you mean by "timezone" you mean it takes place in the future after Halo 3 ended?

So wait, you don't like the fact they added new things to the game? Weird, because you said it was the same game, just a new box but said they added all these new things to make the fans happy (which is what a game dev should do shouldn't they?)

oh...I see what you did there....touche
you did just make me sound like an idiot (if I didn't sound stupid enough telling off Halo Reach on launch day)
my complaint is that they make these minor changes and resell the game
they could have released the jet packs as DLC and done some real work before putting out reach. but like you've said I haven't played reach. It may be the dogs bollox, I'm willing to play it. but experience has told me that it's not going to be worth $60. so everyone who preordered it hasn't learned their history.

And no, you are judging the game on it's cover, as there is no logical reason behind any of your statements.

except all the logical reasons I gave in my comment.....
(you see what I did there...I made you look like an idiot. as if you didn't already look stupid for trying to tell some anti-FPS douchebag that Halo Reach is worth preordering)
all the reasons I gave were perfectly logical, they were all based on observable phenomena.
Halo 3 was a prettier Halo 2 with an ATV. ODST was 6 more hours of Halo 3. every WW2 FPS is identical. all FPS's sell like hot cakes regardless of how good they are. there is no logical reason for Bungie to do any work on Halo 3 before selling it again. because work is hard and the FPS fan base will buy anything
and I haven't even seen the Halo Reach box art, how could I judge it based on something I haven't seen?

I had to eat my words after I played Modern Warfare 2 and found out it was fun (not good, but fun)
and I'm prepared to eat my words again if Halo Reach is more than Halo 3 with Jet packs

wow, I just looked at your screen name....holy crap awesome117 wouldn't happen to be a homage to spartan 117 would it?
enjoy your new Halo game

p.s. this is the hardest comment I've ever typed with all those separate quotes

 

[Nouw]

Snipped

Don't judge a book by it's cover isn't literal (although it is most of the time. I don't blame you) It means don't judge something by looking at it, judge it by actually reading/watching/playing etc.

 

[Bat Vader]

wow I didn't know there were only 1.9 million complete tools out there
I guess everyone else is just going to play Halo 3 again and call it a day
good on you everyone but the 1.9 million retards out there

Judging from your grammar, punctuation, and point; I can only assume that you should be ignored.

OP: Yes Halo Reach has set a new bar for videogame releases everywhere.

fine, ignore me, spend $60 on a game that you already own, then preorder Halo Reach 2, and Halo Reach 3. Never mind that you're being milked with new box art and slight graphical upgrades

Just because many people like the Halo franchise does not mean you can go around and insult them. What is the big deal if 1.9 million people pre-ordered it? Many of those 1.9 million people could like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and/or the Half-Life series. Why judge people just based on one game they pre-order?

On Topic: That is a pretty impressive number. With this being Bungie's last Halo game I am not surprised there were many pre-orders.

 

[Kermi]

Bungie will not let this cash cow die

Bungie no longer own the Halo franchise, and are publishing their new IP via Activision. Microsoft won't let the Halo cash cow die, but Halo: Reach is definitely the final Halo game being made by Bungie.

 

[TPiddy]

I would be insanely happy if Reach outsold MW2 on 360.... I feel Bungie's efforts are typically more deserving of praise than Infinity Ward.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

and I still don't know what you mean by "timezone" you mean it takes place in the future after Halo 3 ended?

I takes place before Halo: Combat Evolved. It chronicles the tasks undertaken by a particular squad of Spartans in the War of Reach. The reason why there's probably not going to be a Reach 2 is because the Covenant won the war, and chances that the game ends before the war is over are slim to none.

 

[Amphoteric]

I have no affiliations for either game. WHO CARES WHAT SELLS MORE THAN WHAT. Its just a bunch of binary code on a CD after all.

 

[Mikeyfell]

and I still don't know what you mean by "timezone" you mean it takes place in the future after Halo 3 ended?

I takes place before Halo: Combat Evolved. It chronicles the tasks undertaken by a particular squad of Spartans in the War of Reach. The reason why there's probably not going to be a Reach 2 is because the Covenant won the war, and chances that the game ends before the war is over are slim to none.

well good for Halo, it finally gets to end

 

[Mikeyfell]

Bungie will not let this cash cow die

Bungie no longer own the Halo franchise, and are publishing their new IP via Activision. Microsoft won't let the Halo cash cow die, but Halo: Reach is definitely the final Halo game being made by Bungie.

and it the new Bungie IP is a first person shooter you can bet money that it will look a lot like Halo. I HOPE it isn't, god I hope it isn't.
and so what. Microsoft won't let the Halo cash cow die....that just means it'll start to suck. that doesn't mean it'll sell any less.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

wow I didn't know there were only 1.9 million complete tools out there
I guess everyone else is just going to play Halo 3 again and call it a day
good on you everyone but the 1.9 million retards out there

Judging from your grammar, punctuation, and point; I can only assume that you should be ignored.

OP: Yes Halo Reach has set a new bar for videogame releases everywhere.

fine, ignore me, spend $60 on a game that you already own, then preorder Halo Reach 2, and Halo Reach 3. Never mind that you're being milked with new box art and slight graphical upgrades

You do realize that bungie and Microsoft are done right? Dude Reach falls... It's in the book. Everyone knows it. You can't MAKE a Reach 2 or 3.

Besides, Bungie and Microsoft are parting ways.

But it's good to know that you THINK you have your information down pat.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Beautiful. Finally something of quality is being accepted by the masses. Thank god for Bungie.

Quality? Dont make me laugh. Halo is the same game every single time.

If anyone is being a sheep and following the "masses" its anyone who's bought a Halo game.

Halo can go sodomize itself with a rusty pitchfork.

Reach is far from the same game. If this is the same game then I don't know what different is.

Besides, not nearly as much as fucking Zelda or Mario.