Hands-On: Ryse: Son of Rome Is Xbox One Combat Devolved
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I couldn't stop laughing at the Roman legionnaire who sounds as though he's voiced by Ross Kemp.
I'm kind wanting to see this work for one simple reason: It's set in Ancient Rome!
That setting has been used almost never outside of RTS' and, god damn it, is it wrong that i just want a medieval set action that ISN'T in medieval europe for a change? Plus, i have a big soft spot for Ancient Rome.
It's disappointing this game isn't living up to it's potential.
In other news: YAY the Captcha's are working again.
That setting has been used almost never outside of RTS' and, god damn it, is it wrong that i just want a medieval set action that ISN'T in medieval europe for a change? Plus, i have a big soft spot for Ancient Rome.
It's disappointing this game isn't living up to it's potential.
In other news: YAY the Captcha's are working again.
I see those combat QTEs becoming very annoying, very quickly. Sure, they looked cool in the first 60 seconds, but even by the end of the demo I was bored with the repetitive nature of it all.
Ok Ok, the single player is most likely linear crap, however I have an idea for the multiplayer.
Teams of maybe 4 vs 4 and each player plays as a captain with their own "squad" or whatever group the other guy had. They have to move and take different objectives around the battlefield. QT events only come up when executing AI units, but vsing actual enemies is completely skill based. Or tactical based if you use your troops right.
But of course that won't happen, so I'll just stop being excited and just be happy I won't be missing out on anything that could actually be good.
Teams of maybe 4 vs 4 and each player plays as a captain with their own "squad" or whatever group the other guy had. They have to move and take different objectives around the battlefield. QT events only come up when executing AI units, but vsing actual enemies is completely skill based. Or tactical based if you use your troops right.
But of course that won't happen, so I'll just stop being excited and just be happy I won't be missing out on anything that could actually be good.
Gaul didn't reach the coasts of the Mediterranean and they certainly were not capable of constructing the fortress we see in this demo. They were also described as being the Germanic tribes in the demo and it?s supposed to be in the twilight years of the Empire ? the foe they were facing them were the Germanic tribes. The Gauls had been subjugated hundreds of years before by Julius Caesar.
I can understand a game like God of War not getting the whole historical accuracy thing done well but this game can at least put some effort in. Romans vs. Barbarians who have fortresses and siege equipment more advanced than Rome ever had.
I can understand a game like God of War not getting the whole historical accuracy thing done well but this game can at least put some effort in. Romans vs. Barbarians who have fortresses and siege equipment more advanced than Rome ever had.
That and just about everything else that was put on display. I think that about the only thing that can be considered historically accurate here is the fact that there once was a Roman empireTHE_MUFFIN_MAN15 said:
Considering I saw plenty of roman architectural elements in that fortress, plus the ruined walls and shit already there before the Romans started their assault, it's probably a Roman fort that got into enemy hands and had to be recaptured. That is ignoring the fact that I'm not aware the Romans ever constructed a fortress of this magnitude and lay-out.
Why everybody is whining about Gauls not reaching the Mediterranean (even though they did. Both the south of France as North-Italy were inhabited by Gauls. ) And why is being near the Mediterranean relevant, considering the Romans had military ports in the Atlantic? For all we know, this is in the Litus Saxonicum.
More importantly, why are the Germans depicted as Palaeolithic cavemen swinging large axes? Did they all leave their chainmail, shields, swords, spears and helmets home? Is this a German lumber chopping company, not the warriors of a Germanic kingdom?
If this is in late Antiquity, why are all the Roman soldiers wearing Lorica Segmentata, considering it stopped being used in large quantities during the 3rd century, and even before wasn't used by 100% of all legionnaires? Are they still using the gladius? It's hard to see, but it looks to be too short to be a spatha.
About the intro: hilarious. Common myth about how decadence and corruption brought down the empire (because western society is going to fall 'cuz we download porn, right). Roman general starting his inspiration speech with... A QUOTE FROM SHAKESPEARE?! LOLWUT?
Why everybody is whining about Gauls not reaching the Mediterranean (even though they did. Both the south of France as North-Italy were inhabited by Gauls. ) And why is being near the Mediterranean relevant, considering the Romans had military ports in the Atlantic? For all we know, this is in the Litus Saxonicum.
More importantly, why are the Germans depicted as Palaeolithic cavemen swinging large axes? Did they all leave their chainmail, shields, swords, spears and helmets home? Is this a German lumber chopping company, not the warriors of a Germanic kingdom?
If this is in late Antiquity, why are all the Roman soldiers wearing Lorica Segmentata, considering it stopped being used in large quantities during the 3rd century, and even before wasn't used by 100% of all legionnaires? Are they still using the gladius? It's hard to see, but it looks to be too short to be a spatha.
About the intro: hilarious. Common myth about how decadence and corruption brought down the empire (because western society is going to fall 'cuz we download porn, right). Roman general starting his inspiration speech with... A QUOTE FROM SHAKESPEARE?! LOLWUT?
Yeah... thisOmegatronacles said:
There's borrowing from a movie and then there's copying it completely with roman uniforms instead of WW2 ones.
About the game itself though, the QTE looked incredibly flowbreaking.
But the formation fighting looked interesting. After all in formations is how romans fought.
Visually impressive but the voice acting just sounded wrong to my ears.
Partly because it sounded like a modern day army sergeant and because the characters seemed completely unfazed by watching friends burn alive and scream around him.
About the game itself though, the QTE looked incredibly flowbreaking.
But the formation fighting looked interesting. After all in formations is how romans fought.
Visually impressive but the voice acting just sounded wrong to my ears.
Partly because it sounded like a modern day army sergeant and because the characters seemed completely unfazed by watching friends burn alive and scream around him.
Its quite possible that the Germanii in this instance had taken over a Roman or possibly even Romano-Celtic fortress rather than having built it. And given that Rome made relatively few excursions into Germania at this point, its quite possible that they're just retaking a previously Roman fort.JonB said:
However, they made the one mistake nigh-on every game set in Rome did, with the honourable exception of Barbarian Invasion, that is, put the Lorica Segmentatum on during the closing days of the Western Empire. BY this point, they were just using chainmail as it was easier to maintain, and important attribute when you may not get a resupply from the Romanised provinces for years.
On the gameplay side of things, why is it so hard to make a game where the character, especially in third-person, uses swings and stabs that actually make sense? This is a game set in the closing period of one of the most influential entities to have ever existed, and we know the end isn't going to be pretty for them. I want gameplay that shows how desperate things are getting, the character barely holding off the hordes, not throwing crazed axemen over his shoulder like he's Hercules, moving like lightning and shrugging off a dozen Germans at once.
That occurred to me too.rhizhim said:
They might be British born legionaires, Rome recruited from its colonies..... buuuuuut that said why would a brit be called Ryse
I really like the concept, and the graphics look spectacular, but QTE and dumbed down action sequences don't really fit. Far too much saving private ryan and too little braveheart/gladiator influence.
This game SHOULD be awesome, but it's not. It's a second-rate Saving Private Ryan knock-off sequence, followed by an endless stream of quick-time events.
I think they are TRYING to copy Space Marine. What they have missed, however, is that Space Marine's combat delivered glorious overkill with every push of the button, and the executions were instantaneous "You're dead, I'm better than ever!" affairs that served to give an epic bit of relief and a chance to take stock whilst Titus emptied six gallons of Ork Blood about the place, here Ryse's actions do not flow.
Nowhere is this more jarring than the "This Is Sparta" takedown. Rather than the guy simply booting the Barbarian off the walls and allowing the player to instantly set upon the next foe, we have the game screech to a halt whilst a "Press Y within the next minute" floats on the screen. The combo-kills? Same problem. In Assassin's Creed they are performed in standard play and will execute automatically once the proper trigger is reached. These ones? They have no sense of pacing because you have to perform 3-4 quick-time-events to make them happen.
Sadly, this is nothing more than another prime example of How Not to Do It from Microsoft.
Edit: I must also give a shout out to everyone who picked the trailer apart for its historical inconsistencies. I have never felt such a part of the Escapist community.
I think they are TRYING to copy Space Marine. What they have missed, however, is that Space Marine's combat delivered glorious overkill with every push of the button, and the executions were instantaneous "You're dead, I'm better than ever!" affairs that served to give an epic bit of relief and a chance to take stock whilst Titus emptied six gallons of Ork Blood about the place, here Ryse's actions do not flow.
Nowhere is this more jarring than the "This Is Sparta" takedown. Rather than the guy simply booting the Barbarian off the walls and allowing the player to instantly set upon the next foe, we have the game screech to a halt whilst a "Press Y within the next minute" floats on the screen. The combo-kills? Same problem. In Assassin's Creed they are performed in standard play and will execute automatically once the proper trigger is reached. These ones? They have no sense of pacing because you have to perform 3-4 quick-time-events to make them happen.
Sadly, this is nothing more than another prime example of How Not to Do It from Microsoft.
Edit: I must also give a shout out to everyone who picked the trailer apart for its historical inconsistencies. I have never felt such a part of the Escapist community.
