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I checked it out, some of that Erin porn is pretty well done. The White Guy Defense force gang-bang one was interesting.
People create fap characters all the time. Erin is a character designed to be realistic and relatable. While there is no denying Rule 34 of any and all known media characters that have gained public recognition, finding characters that aren't being sexualized is limited to barely-known OCs with terrible personalities and/or fashion sense made by a non-fantasizing creator...which does not make sense.FPLOON said:
mabye I've spent too much time amongst femslash comunities but nothing about rule34 as a concept squicks me out...most people have sex why can't fictional charachters?
then again a lot of rule34 made to appeal to straight guys is...pretty graphic, unlike my prefered rule34 which is sexual but in a [i/]nice[/i] way
then again a lot of rule34 made to appeal to straight guys is...pretty graphic, unlike my prefered rule34 which is sexual but in a [i/]nice[/i] way
You either weren't looking hard enough... or were looking too hard.Fox12 said:Well, I looked up Critical Miss rule 34. All I found was this. Enjoy.
Probably! I don't even know what the hell that show is, but that is small-world thinking.FPLOON said:
Yeah, but ya gotta admit that 2/3 chance it's gonna be fucked up and degrading. The "ahegao-faced" Erin seems like a dark harbinger of what would come. I know, that sounds... weird to say, I mean it's their character they can do whatever they want to with her, but it shouldn't be ignored that its kinda fucked up that female characters really get shitted on (sometimes litteraly) when Rule 34 gets them.Jmp_man said:
There's a couple of reasons:Vault101 said:
a) Most people have diarrhea at least at some point in their life, so why do so few people (although, I probably should add that "few" is a relative term on the internet) write fan-fiction specifically about that? Because at the end of the day, fiction (fan- or otherwise) isn't about what the characters in the story would do but about what the author wants to write or what they think their audience will want to read as they hold a glass of chianti in one hand and shove the other down the front of their pants and start pleasing their "inner goddess" like there's no tommorow (or at least I assume that's how classy people rub one out). So, most people's problem with Rule 34 stuff is less that a character is having sex, but rather that other people get off on that. (of course there's also the possibility that a sex scene can be intentionally non-tittilating and convey something else than "Phwoa, isn't this hot?" but a) that's rarely the case in fan-fiction/-art of that kind and b) wouldn't fall under Rule 34 since that's about porn specifically)
b) We, as a society treat sexual fantasies different from fantasies of other kinds, and require an additional set of circumstances to make it acceptable to share and discuss them publicly, especially concerning questions of consent. Now, you might argue that the level of taboo associated with discussing sex in our society is much too high (not to mention very unevenly and hypocritically distributed along sex-,gender- and sexual orientation lines) and you would be right, but at the end of the day, if I were to see a photograph of you/someone you cared about and comment that you/they look like you'd/they'd make a great pirate, I'm sure it'd make you feel a lot less uncomfortable than if I were to comment about how you/the person you care about look really "fuckable" or whatever the tasteful equivalent of that would be.
c) We all care about fictional characters one way or another.
d) We all think different stuff is hot/tasteful/[i/] nicely sexual [/i] and that different stuff is less so.
e) Fictional characters cannot consent to or defend themselves against being depicted a certain way. They cannot say something along the lines of "You're nice and all, but your self-insert character isn't really doing it for me, sorry." or "Now that you mention it, I do in fact want to sleep with the entire crew of the Enterprise!"
So, I guess in conclusion: The reason why some people feel Rule 34 is inherently squicky is because they feel it is like seeing someone jerk off to a picture of your mom, then have them turn around once you say something about it and have them go "No, no, what I'm doing is totally alright. I mean, statistically speaking, your mom would probably be into loving vaginal sex combined with some cunilingus and her partner talking about her genitals as 'delicate flowers'. It's not like I'm that deranged sicko over there who has photoshopped a bottle of lube and a giant buttplug with a fake horsetail coming out the back onto the photo. Some people, urgh!"
Except of course that your mom in this case never lived and is also Samus Aran.
"OniiChan"? More like "Oh no chan"! Hey?! Am I right?!mysecondlife said:
*taps mic*
Is... is this thing on?