Hardcore Will Adopt Kinect First, Says Microsoft
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Yes but, the Wii is not very popular with the hardcore folks, since most of us are perfectly fine with a controller with buttons and not really into jumping and waving in front of our TV. If Microsoft tries to force-feed the Kinect to the hardcore folks, like, make it mandatory for games like Fable 3 or *the horror* Mass Effect 3, that will make alot of people VERY angry.Baby Tea said:
Basically this guy is just doing what marketing guys do. Which is to tell you that "yeah sure we'll have lots of hardcore games, go out and buy it." Then you discover there are no hardcore games and you just bought 150 dollar sensor bar. You could have had a better time buying 150 dollars worth of crack cocaine... I means seriously its a piece of shit that all you can do is play dodgeball and tigers on. We have wii already and it does all those things plus more for only 50 more bucks so why would I ever buy a kinect. MS is such assholes...
It's like Microsoft hired two marketing teams to promote the game for hardcore and casual crowds and they don't communicate with each other at all. End result is an incredibly schizophrenic message - who knows, maybe they're hoping to confuse their audience into spending 150 bucks.
And I doubt confusing your audience is the way you get them to buy your stuff.
And I doubt confusing your audience is the way you get them to buy your stuff.
Yeah, how would alchemy even work? Would I play with a punch of test tubes in front of my TV, like I belong to some sort of neo-scientific TV worshiping cult?Deofuta said:
'course MS might have a point with the Hardcore crowd being the first to buy Natal, if a) you get a free xbox with it, b) the first title released is some sort of porn gamd
I agree. A game doesn't have to be purely Kinect, it can use it a little bit in more serious games. In RPGs, maybe to say the first word of a sentence selection, or change weapons with your voice or a movement of your hand. Small things like that will make the thing cool. But pure Kinect games do not appeal to me.
EDIT: .... Oh, huh. It's you again. XD We're NEVER gonna agree on this, huh?Baby Tea said:
1 - They don't state what they're going to use it for. This goes straight into the "probably gonna suck" bin along with all the trailers Square-Enix shows that don't have any gameplay footage in them. If they aren't telling you what they're doing with it, they probably don't know themselves or aren't that proud of it. Additionally, if they plan to include folks who don't have a Kinect in the market for Fable 3 then that means it's going to be completely optional and therefore completely unnecessary--because you have to be able to reasonably enjoy the game without it. If there are features like this, I'm willing to bet it'll be like the lame GBA-Gamecube connectivity that was put in all of three or four games. You'll be like, "huh, neat" for about ten seconds, but you'll realize pretty quickly that having a second player control Tingle for you isn't all that exciting.
2 - What could they honestly do with the Kinect and a controller that they couldn't already do with just the controller? Is that sort of functionality really worth the time and effort it takes the program it? Is that the kind of thing we want to encourage developers to do? It just seems like a big cop-out for developers who're too sloppy with their control schemes to keep it nice and succinct, you know? Like, "here, one extra button and one only." Or maybe more appropriately, an extra stick. The easy thing to jump right to is being able to grab and manipulate objects in the game using your actual hand, but why couldn't you just use, you know, a button for that? You press the button, it automatically and reliably performs the task, flips the switch, or acquires the object, there, done, let's continue the game. Otherwise I guess you're looking at a point-and-wave interface for minigames or puzzles or other modes or something, but that doesn't seem like the exciting possibility people keep hoping for. I don't know, I just don't see why this is a better alternative than putting the motion control and the controller in the same device so that you're not taking your hand off one thing to put it on another.
Yes, the controller for the system that panders to the masses with terrible games.Baby Tea said:
Yes, the controller for the system that turned Nintendo into whores.
Yes, the controller for the system that lets mouthbreathing fuckwits claim to be gamers.
The Wiimote. Vibrating Motion-Dildo of "Hey This Game Controls Like Shit".
Did you wacth the press Conference for Microsoft the impression it gave said that Kinect wouldn't be used as a "enhancement" but more like a gimmick to get kids and parents to buy it.Baby Tea said:
granted i didn't hear Peters Press Conference (nor do i know if he had one). Also the Ludicrous price point of 149.99 is insane it would have to be 49.99 for it to market well since who would buy a Kinect when you can get a DS for a little bit more?
also the controller which dumbed down most of Nintendos games to a whole new level of kiddy games and sports games that just use the Wii because people see movement based controls and think it can be a replacement for exercise or the other people who flock to it because they could not handle button controls and thought the motion contol would be easier.Baby Tea said:
As a gamer who has more then undoubtedly played more games then most i only own i'd say 20 Wii games maybe up to 25 now in comparison to the amount i own for the PS3, around 50, for the 360 around 150, and DS over 100(can't even ballpark it). The Wii has Isolated a large amount of people do to its excessive marketing to the old and the young. me being neither find it hard to purchase the games for the system.
as a person who works in retail in the electronic department i can say with certainty you hit the nail on the head.Ganthrinor said:
I'll be trying Move before I do Kinect. Look, you're being too optimistic about this. The kind of people who like games like Wii Fit probably don't own a 360 and even if they had one in their house, they're probably not willing to pay $150 for a camera and then even more for games. I don't see this taking off. At least the Move will let you do games like Killzone 3 and Heavy Rain... as in real games. And even then you don't need it. It's much cheaper and it looks like it would work better. That's not to say I'm buying this, but I don't know many hardcore gamers that would really want to try something like this out.
I highly doubt that, mainly because Microsoft has Justin Bieber promoting it.
At least Sony has Kevin Butler. Who is, you know, awesome.
At least Sony has Kevin Butler. Who is, you know, awesome.