I'm just going to be a dick about this and state that a parsec is actually a unit of distance...DVS BSTrD said:He's the smuggler who made the bathroom run in less than 12 parsecs.
Yeah, seriously bad set of stuff there.....think that mess was called Dark Empire 2 or something. That is not the worst offender in my book, but it is top 3 easilyInfernai said:Oh, i agree it's mostly garbage...there is a reason i used the words "Vast mass of void" to describe the EU. It's also the reason i employ Selective Canon with it (Although i am grateful for them having Boba Fett survive the Sarlacc and for making Kyle Katarn). For example, there was apparently a rumor of the emperor coming back to life somehow...good thing THAT never happened in starwars amirite? *plugs ears* LALALALALA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALA! IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! LALALALA!davidsoc said:SPOILERS ahead (they are very old...if you wanted you have probably read...but you are warned)Infernai said:You're half right. One of Hans children, if my memory of the vast mass of void that is the expanded universe is to be believed, did infact turn evil.Ickabod said:Seems like a good set up for a sibling rivalry, Han being the father, one child goes evil while the other good. Maybe the bad child killing Han off.
Also i apologize, i do not know how to work the spoiler tagging..
In the EU, they had three kids, the youngest gets killed by the extra-galactic vong race....the other two are twins, the boy does go sith and earns a darth title, killing his aunt (mara) in the process....his sister kills him later in a duel. Yes i have read most of the EU stuff. Most of it is garbage, the Zahn books are actually pretty damn good. The bounty Hunter Trilogy is a fun ride, though not great. And one or two of the Vong series (23 or 25 volumes i can't remember it has been a long time) are decently written books, but that is about it. Beyond Zahn nothing really feels like a Star Wars type of book other than throwing the main characters around, to me Zahn was the only one that actually captured the universe it self well.
Assuming that they're going to bring back Harrison Ford to play a role set far enough in the future of canon to be appropriate for his age (and not give him a CGI-laden cameo shot) i.e. a story set ~30 or 40 years after A New Hope, and assuming that they're not planning on butchering the Expanded Universe, Luke Skywalker will have been the Grand Master of a Jedi Academy he founded, Chewbacca would be dead, Lando would be a semi-retired owner of an weapons manufacturing company (...last I checked?), Leia would be a Jedi Master alongside Luke and also an important (former) political figure in the New Republic, and Han Solo would be retired military General (or something, forget his exact military designation) in the New Republic.TAdamson said:What does anybody want Han Solo to do really? His Arc ended when he got released from the carbonite. You *might* be able to get Luke to fill the "Yoda" role, or perhaps the "Kenobi" role. But anybody else? Is Han really going to be adventuring around the galaxy with his giant dog and committing crimes?
REally there's only three things I can imagine happening to Han Solo:
1) He's married Leia and has a boring high level security job busting the kind of crooks he used to be that he is likely soon to retire from.
2) They're divorced and he's pissing away the last of his smuggling profits while hiding from bounty hunters who want his blood.
3) He's dead.
None of those ideas make for particularly epic story telling.
Chewie? Chewie's probably an elder statesman of his tribe or something, or he's running a successful and legal freighter company after offloading his newly married loose cannon of a partner. This would make a dull movie.
Lando? He'd be back in administration. He seemed to really like it, and was good at it. Maybe not at Besbin but probably a space station somewhere. Again I don't find this to be particularly compelling thrilling space adventure material.
Mark Hamill is the obvious choice because you could just drop him into the Ben Kenobi character and it wouldn't matter an inch. In fact I can think of all sorts of things that Luke Skywalker could be doing. Running a new Jedi Academy, secretly running a Jedi Acadamy, refusing to run a Jedi acadamy, trying to warn the new senate of a new Sith presence. Han however? Retired, dead or clocking hours at a boring desk job.
Leia would actually be interesting because she's an Ambassador and that might lead to some serious interstellar hijinks. But good luck getting Carrie Fisher cleaned up enough to play that part.
Seconded...in fact that post appears to be made of 100% pure win with no fillers.Zhukov said:I am posting here for the sole reason of informing that above poster that his comment cracked me up.DVS BSTrD said:He's the smuggler who made the bathroom run in less than 12 parsecs.
The EU doesn't stop after 40 years, it just timejumps 100 years into the future with the Legacy of the Force comic series (Cade Skywalker and resurgence of the Sith Empire and all that).DjinnFor said:The plot, however, intrigues me: 40 years later is about the time when the Expanded Universe kinda just stops (as in authors haven't written much). One of the more recently written EU series' is called "Fate of the Jedi" and takes place after a major civil war amidst growing return of the Sith (very original, as you can tell). That said, his role in this series involves quite a lot of action as a primary character alongside Leia Solo, Luke Skywalker, and some of their kids. So I doubt they'd actually do that point in time.
So if Harrison Ford is getting a decent role it would be some time after the conclusion of that series, I assume. So either they're bypassing most of the EU canon by setting it far in the future and making a totally new story, they're butchering the EU canon, or they're just going to have him cameo.
I think they already stated that they won't be working with the EU.kael013 said:Well, since the EU has had Han be a badass well into old age, this could be fine. However, I've been skeptical of this "sequel trilogy" ever since it was announced for multiple reasons - Disney in charge, JJ Abrams directing (granted this one is only a mild worry since I liked the Star Trek reboot), that whole "Are they going to respect the EU?" question - and this is now another worry to add to the list (possibly cashing in on the remaining love for the original trilogy with cameos). I don't care about casting information; I want information about how dark it's going to be and when it's set (so I'll know which EU books I may have to throw out).
How exactly does C-3PO not fall into the "wears a costume" category? Heck, I don't even remember the name of the guy in the suit, nor what he looks like.Chessrook44 said:One down, four to go...
By that I mean Luke, Leia, Lando, and 3PO. Everyone else who might show up in the version of episode 7 that I want to see is minor enough that they can be replaced with a look-alike, wears a costume, or is dead.
All hail Timothy Zahn!j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:Hmmm... hopefully if Solo is already going to be old in this film, that means they're not rewriting/retconning the Thrawn trilogy. I know the EU has its fair share of crap, but those books are too legitimately good to be retconned out of existence.
I wouldn't be too upset if they did the Zahn books and just made it happen later than the 5 years after Endor that it was supposed to be. I'd even be ok with having Han and Leia's kids be the main characters rather than Luke and Crew. Have Luke running the Jedi academy and Han a senator or some such and the new Jedi take a lead role with the old folks in the background. Really I just want to see Ian McKellan painted blue with possibly John Barrowman as Paelleon (the Empire needs to remain white brits).TheCaptain said:All hail Timothy Zahn!j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:Hmmm... hopefully if Solo is already going to be old in this film, that means they're not rewriting/retconning the Thrawn trilogy. I know the EU has its fair share of crap, but those books are too legitimately good to be retconned out of existence.
That's always been the one person who kept Star Wars alive for me through it all, and these books are kinda impossible to adapt to screen given the age of the actors anyway... So they'll just ignore that there's already a story right there. Which I find incredibly disrespectful towards the authors who've shaped that universe these past thirty years...