Harry Potter Director Helms Doctor Who Movie

[Bara_no_Hime]

No!
No canon means no good to many like myself. The Doctor Who movie of Paul McGann fame showed us just how a movie can go haywire with fans (half human my regenerating ass!).

This.

The Paul McGann movie was terrible, and it tried to do much the same thing. No offense to Mr. McGann, as it wasn't at all his fault - the script for that atrocity was abysmal at best, and head-shakingly stupid at worst. I blame Fox for sticking their proverbial dicks in the pudding.

Although, an interesting thought does occur....

What if they made a movie staring the first doctor... when he was younger? That wouldn't be in the "current continuity" and would lack any of the baggage of the many, many years of the show. We know that the Doctor has kids (he's said so in the new series, and there was his grand-daughter Susan in the original) so perhaps we could meet their mom as his companion? That would be all kinds of interesting.

Assuming, of course, than they didn't fuck it up. **sigh**

 

[Formica Archonis]

Anyone here ever read The Nth Doctor [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Nth_Doctor]? A fascinating description of the movies that never were.

And then there was The Completely Useless Encyclopedia's entry on rumors. If memory serves: "An American movie with a macho Doctor who'd get into car chases and cop off with his companion. Oh, bugger, they did it. At least the rapping TARDIS console with lips was further off the mark."

 

[Dak_N_Jaxter]

*reads title*
hmmmm

*new continuity*
oh... well, ok

*she was involved with Torchwood*
Nyeehhhh!!!

From the looks of things, could go either way.

 

[The Bucket]

Longtime fans may be distressed (and new fans may be relieved) to learn that Yates has no intention of connecting his new film with the current show's continuity. "[Recent series writers] Russell T. Davies and then Steven Moffat have done their own transformations, which were fantastic, but we have to put that aside and start from scratch," says Yates. The director has every intention of staying true to the spirit of the source material: the story of a time-traveling, tweed-clad adventurer who fights evil wherever - and whenever - it occurs, armed with a sidekick and a surprisingly versatile screwdriver. Still, some changes will be in order, especially to fit it into a two-hour format. "It needs quite a radical transformation to take it into the bigger arena."

And that is the sentence that immediately killed my enthusiasm for this movie, I'll probably be excited again closer to the time but for me this paragraph has ruined a lot of the point of such a movie. The little doctor who fan inside of me is saying "continuity or GTFO"

To be fair, Doctor Who Canon is pretty damn twisted and contradictory at times. They havent even nailed down the exact rules on how time travel works.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

[HEADING=2]I have a message from the real Doctor...[/HEADING]

[HEADING=2]Would you like me to repeat it?[/HEADING]​

 

[EvilPicnic]

To be fair, Doctor Who Canon is pretty damn twisted and contradictory at times. They havent even nailed down the exact rules on how time travel works.

That's the point: they could do something completely random with Doctor Who and still manage to make it as vaguely canonical as anything else. That they seem to be implying a clean break is just weird because it automatically alienates most of the fan-base.

I mentioned it briefly in my post above, but the recent Star trek film managed to straddle the newbie and long-term fan divide very well with a plot that was technically a reboot but also a continuation of continuity at the same time, and did it well.

But with the history of Doctor Who films and reboots I don't have much hope for this at all...

 

[TheCowman]

I actually think the only way to do a Dr. Who movie would be to just say "ya know what? This doesn't necessarily count for the show's continuity". Trying to tie it into an ongoing TV series is just inviting problems. If you HAVE to make a movie, I'd prefer it be it's own thing.

I'm hesitant for a "Time War" movie partly because it seems like such a limited scope for a Dr. Who movie adventure; and partly because it'd be the same tactic as "Clone Wars", and I'm so sick of that point in Star Wars lore by now that I wretch every time it's mentioned.

 

[TheCowman]

[HEADING=2]I have a message from the real Doctor...[/HEADING]

[HEADING=2]Would you like me to repeat it?[/HEADING]​

[h4]LOL[/h4]​

 

[HyenaThePirate]

THE ONLY good thing that might come of this is that we get back story on Gallifrey. We'll get a Gallifreyan society that has depth. Otherwise this is going to be just another failing "time travel" movie like that movie that desperately wanted to capture Harry Potter's lightning in a bottle "The Seeker" (Not that badass Sam Raimi series, but the one about the little boy) or that last Michael Crighton film Timeline. It's going to be instantly forgettable and will probably kill any chance of an American Doctor Who series. Besides, I can already see someone whispering JOHNNY DEPP's name all over this project. Which will make me physically ILL.

What? I've always thought Johnny Depp was perfect to play the Doctor.

Depp to me has become a one character actor. I'm sorry but every role he's played since Sleepy Hollow seems to be the same aloof, quirky character brought to its ultimate form in Jack Sparrow. I don't want to watch Jack Sparrow in Doctor WHO.

Quite honestly, I think David Tenant should reprise his role as the Doctor for the big screen. He's already a well established actor, has been on the big screen before, had a great run as the Doctor..

or..

Remember all that talk about the new Doctor Who being black in his next iteration? I think here is a PERFECT opportunity to do that by casting Adrian Lester or Idris Elba. Both would make phenomenal Doctors whether on small or large screen. And either would be preferable to a non-British actor running around with a ridiculous actor, or some ridiculous Hollywood big name getting the role like Keanu Reeves or.. I shudder to even say it, but.. SHIA LEBOUF.. *shiver*

 

[ReservoirAngel]

No thanks Hollwood, Russel T Davies already turned it into a Hollywood-esque story of star-crossed lovers and people hated that aspect of it. We're perfectly fine with Stephen Moffatt (a life-long fan I might add) being in charge, we don't need you thinking you could do better.

Not every British TV show needs to remade by you guys you know, you can leave some things alone.

You're talking about Rose, right? Wasn't she voted one of the more popular of the Doctor's companions?

Yup, here it is. Number one most popular in fact:

http://www.digitalspy.com/british-tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a288089/rose-tyler-tops-who-companion-poll.html

As one of the people who loved the RTD stories they'll get no complaints from me if they structure it similarly (Although the Moffat stuff is great as well).

I don't mean this as an insult but: before you saw Rose in her annoying, fish-lipped glory, did you ever see any of the classic Doctor Who?

Because in my experience it seems to be the people who loved the classic Doctor Who that disliked Russel T Davies making the first 4 seasons a prolonged love letter to Rose, for one simple reason: the Doctor does not love his companions. The companions are there to provide the human aspect, not to be fawned over by the Doctor or to fawn over him. They are, at heart, expendable characters. Some of them last in our minds (primarily Sarah Jane Smith, and may Elisabeth Sladen rest in peace) but as a general rule, they're not romantic interests for the Doctor.

The Doctor galavants around being awesome and the saving the world, the companion follows him around until they're ready to be useful, then they move on. That's how it went, so Russell T Davies making his run a prolonged love story just scratched a lot of old fans the wrong way.

I don't know why they'd put it out of continuity though. It seems like a really simple thing to do. Plenty of shows do it. Just a big event scenario that isn't heavily based on previous continuity. Matt Smith could handle a movie just fine, I'd imagine.

The problem is, unless the makers watch every episode of the show ever made, they will get things in continuity wrong and the obsessive nerds of the world *points to myself* will rip the ever-loving shit out of them for it.

It's a lose-lose. They abandon continuity, we get pissed. They put it in continuity but get shit wrong, and we get pissed.

Some people mentioned a Time War movie? that sounds perfect. Finally shed some light on that, especially on what the Doctor did to end it. That whole "trapped in a time bubble" thing really made no sense to me.

Oh my God, no! I cannot stress how much of a bad idea that is. Nothing they could film of the Time War would ever live up to what fans have in their heads.

I'll put it this way: remember before the Star Wars prequels, how awesome the concept of the Clone War was, because nobody knew fuck all about it except it involved Clones and warfare? Then the prequels came out, and the TV shows to bridge the gap, and everyone treated it all with a resounding "meh". Because they had spend a while imagining this epic scenario that the director could never match.

The Time War is like that. I've gathered every bit of information I have about the Time War into a database in my mind and translated that into epic visuals and epic battles that nothing could ever live up to. So any attempt to portray it would just leave me feeling dissapointed and betrayed. I can't even describe the mental image I have of the Fall of Arcadia, but I know that nothing will ever top it.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I am American. My favorite Doctor is David Tennant BY FAR. I LOVE re-imaginings. I even like Torchwood (sorta). And even I know this movie is a HORRIBLE idea.

 

[ZeoAssassin]

"It needs quite a radical transformation to take it into the bigger arena."

Any other Who Fans just fucking terrified by that quote?

The cynic in me says this will probably be some 2nd rate Origin story that's Americanized up the ass and misses the point of the real show. God forbid it becomes successful and we get some 2nd bastardized version of the franchise =(

As for the people suggesting a Time-War Movie. I am all for that idea however...

Moffat HAS to be involved and maybe even a joint between him and RTD since he originally wrote about it.

They would have to be VERY VERY VERY (VERY) careful not to screw it up. Mysteries tend to lose their appeal when they are explained or over-explained so it needs to be handled right.

Can't wait to see the first trailer of this to raise my blood pressure to dangerous levels =p

 

[gothicjak]

I want to punch kittens now.... or David Yates at least

 

[CosmicCommander]

Make it go back to the beginning, sir. I wanna see how Hartnell's Doctor ended up exiled to a scrap yard.

 

[Infernai]

[HEADING=2]I have a message from the real Doctor...[/HEADING]

[HEADING=2]Would you like me to repeat it?[/HEADING]​

[h4]LOL[/h4]​

[HEADING=3]Well Done[/HEADING]

[HEADING=3]But leave the threats to the villains next time..[/HEADING]

 

[Xelien]

Mixed......feelings..... But I don't see why it get americanized? David Yates is an English director who directs British films. So I don't think thats going to change. Like Harry Potter, Doctor who is a huge British phenomenon so the chance of them changing nationality is highly unlikely.

Still don't know how a movie will play out, especially if it's gonna be out of continuity. I'll wait for any actors to make further assumptions.

 

[Eri]

No tennant/smith/ecc means automatic shitlist for this movie. I hope they use one of them for the doctor, otherwise I'm not watching it.

 

[TheCowman]

[HEADING=3]Well Done[/HEADING]

[HEADING=3]But leave the threats to the villains next time..[/HEADING]

[h4]Judooo CHOP!![/h4]