Have you ever considered suicide?
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Just because you can't go over something doesn't mean you can't find a way around it. Better to try than just stop dead.Swollen Goat said:
Empathy? Compassion? No?natster43 said:
Can you honestly blame someone wanting to leave a world where the vulnerable, hopeless and desperate are insulted like this?
Of course!
Honestly, a vast majority of people must have considered it at one point or another. Some go through with it, but thankfuly a majority dont.
Personaly, I have considered it a good deal of times, and felt like acting on it twice, BOTH due to issues in high-school! (Yes, that old cliche, but what else is new?)
Then I realized what a stupid, selfish thing it would do. I may have practicly no friends that would care about it, but I still have a family, and putting them through that kind of suffering would be a truly heartless thing of me to do...
Honestly, a vast majority of people must have considered it at one point or another. Some go through with it, but thankfuly a majority dont.
Personaly, I have considered it a good deal of times, and felt like acting on it twice, BOTH due to issues in high-school! (Yes, that old cliche, but what else is new?)
Then I realized what a stupid, selfish thing it would do. I may have practicly no friends that would care about it, but I still have a family, and putting them through that kind of suffering would be a truly heartless thing of me to do...
Doctor Zamboni (Ha! funny name!) found the cure for multiple sclerosis and he saved the life of his wife by doing a brain surgery on his own. The medical board refuses to acknowledge his feat because it doesn't mean as much profit as a human decaying over a very long period of time. Here's a source: http://www.rense.com/general88/MScure.htmSwollen Goat said:
It is not the first article I read on the matter and didn't read this one fully, but I suggest that you look into it. Google is your friend.
I have, yes. Simple reason I've never gone through with it: There aren't many way of committing suicide that are painless. Actually tried once. Sat in the trunk of my sister's car for a while with all the windows and doors closed. But then I got bored. Turns out it wouldn't have worked anyway, since my sister's car isn't really that well built.
I've considered it but not in a properly serious "this is it for me" way.
Just when I fuck up everyone else's day for weeks on end and don't seem to be coping with it... Its nice to know I can put an end to it somehow.
But I've always been hesitant because it's selfish and even though my mum bitchrants and my dad takes the piss, they love me. I still have friends, people who care if I'm not there.
If all else fails, I come online and make lame jokes to lighten someone else's day, gives me a sense of purpose.
Just when I fuck up everyone else's day for weeks on end and don't seem to be coping with it... Its nice to know I can put an end to it somehow.
But I've always been hesitant because it's selfish and even though my mum bitchrants and my dad takes the piss, they love me. I still have friends, people who care if I'm not there.
If all else fails, I come online and make lame jokes to lighten someone else's day, gives me a sense of purpose.
I have. Not sure how I got out or why I thought it was a good idea - I'd rather just leave my life behind and start a new, if difficult one, rather than destroy everything I am in order to escape the hard parts of existence.
I guess that could be good advice - in the end, if there's no other option, it's better to build yourself a new life somewhere else than to end every potential you have. Starting again, especially on your own if you've depended on parents, is hard, but it's so much more rewarding than just giving up.
I guess that could be good advice - in the end, if there's no other option, it's better to build yourself a new life somewhere else than to end every potential you have. Starting again, especially on your own if you've depended on parents, is hard, but it's so much more rewarding than just giving up.
Ok,I know there isn't a way around everything, I mean people with chronic depression can't just get over it and people with MS can't find a way around it. but even if the problem is something like that, surely it is better to at least experience what you can while you can? I know a guy with MS who teaches guitar for a living (he also plays bagpipes, because he's awesome like that) and he's beginning to lose the ability to even move his arms, killing both his passion and his livelihood. I know how serious it can be, and sure in some cases, suicide/euthanasia can be justified, but where possible it should always be avoided.Swollen Goat said:
Zoloft, like any antidepressant has a tendency to increase the risk of suicide in people in their teens and younger. So giving a non-adult an antidepressant is technically a risk anyways. I used to be on Lexapro (citalopram) and I don't even remember it helping. Also, I quit taking it without advisement to do so and suffered no ill effects. People always react differently.natster43 said:
During a phase in my life, I had brief thoughts of suicide every now and again, which comes with the territory as I'm sure many people know what I'm talking about. Now I don't have those thoughts at all, thank goodness.
But I would never enact those thoughts, nor would I ever harm myself. One, I'm much too stubborn to give into those thoughts, and my personal belief is that I will live every second of my life as long as I can and I will not cut it short by any circumstances. It would be stupid and a waste if I killed or harmed myself, and the only real advice I can give is to just know when you need help.
But I would never enact those thoughts, nor would I ever harm myself. One, I'm much too stubborn to give into those thoughts, and my personal belief is that I will live every second of my life as long as I can and I will not cut it short by any circumstances. It would be stupid and a waste if I killed or harmed myself, and the only real advice I can give is to just know when you need help.
Yes, too many times to count, but I keep coming back to the conclusion that I don't want to put my perfectly able body to waste. Waste is a pet peeve of mine, I would much rather join the army and volunteer for dangerous operations, but too bad I disagree with the war in Iraq. I'll join anytime our freedoms or rights are ACTUALLY endangered (eg. ww3), or there is a legitimate reason for war (eg. stoping next generation nazis)...SAT4NSLILHELPER said:
My advice to anyone who is considering it is to think of the opportunities you could possibly miss. Although, asking a person who is suicidal himself will obviously not yield a very good answer, I don't exactly have the most cheerful outlook on life.
Before I say this: I'm not being an insensitive dick. I haven't been diagnosed as depressed, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was. But does anyone else think that it's hilarious, in a morbid way, that antidepressants cause suicidal thoughts? That's like a painkiller that makes you feel like someone kicked you in the balls. Or a bandage that causes severe bleeding. How did depression medicine get past the FDA?tmccomas said:
I'd be glad if I was never diagnosed for that reason alone. Overall, I'm doing fine just powering my way through my darker periods. Every time suicide comes to my mind, I just think "really, you're gonna quit? Come on, you're tougher than this! If you still have the power to choose to die, you haven't lost everything yet."
Once at 15, when a combination of the fallout from a sports injury making all my fair-weather friends abandon me and my failure at trying to get a date (hey, at 15 it's a big deal, OK?) pushed me over the edge. I ended up hospitalized for almost two months for severe clinical depression.
Again at 18. Long story and I'm not going to tell it. Some things are best left to only my closest confidantes. But it's relevant to this thread.
And more recently, just after my 31st birthday. I had just been fired from a job at the bank, wanted desperately to take some time to explore myself, do some writing (two examples of which ended up published on this very site), and see if I could make a life out of my creative side. Trouble was, my wife at the time---well, she was less than supportive. This was the first major sign that my marriage was on an extremely rocky footing and that she just plain didn't believe in me anymore. It's probably a good thing the oven was electric and not gas or I wouldn't be here.
Again at 18. Long story and I'm not going to tell it. Some things are best left to only my closest confidantes. But it's relevant to this thread.
And more recently, just after my 31st birthday. I had just been fired from a job at the bank, wanted desperately to take some time to explore myself, do some writing (two examples of which ended up published on this very site), and see if I could make a life out of my creative side. Trouble was, my wife at the time---well, she was less than supportive. This was the first major sign that my marriage was on an extremely rocky footing and that she just plain didn't believe in me anymore. It's probably a good thing the oven was electric and not gas or I wouldn't be here.
For a time, long ago. I was being bullied a lot, coming to a peak when my best friend turned on me, throwing a chunk of ice into my groin. There were nights where I thought I'd try strangling myself in my sleep, but that proved to be an uncomfortable endeavour. In a non-intentional instance, I was so distracted by my sorrows that I almost walked into the path of a speeding car. Fortunately, my parents saw the signs and expressed their intent to have me homeschooled the next year (this was a few months before summer). This lifted my spirits enough to shrug off the rest of the year. The next year went so well that I put my woes behind me completely, although I didn't leave homeschooling until college.
Well, obviously it's not everyone that experiences the increased suicidal tendencies. Like other drugs, not everyone gets the symptoms. But I know what you mean. I actually do think it's quite funny. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one!Grand_Arcana said:
